Ffs the value keeps going up, will be 200m by the time transfer window starts.
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Fecking glaziers
Viktor Gyökeres
- Thread starter Berbaclass
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A foward 3 of:
-----Gyokeres
Cunha-Amad
Would be ideal, Delap back up with letting Hojlund go.
-----Gyokeres
Cunha-Amad
Would be ideal, Delap back up with letting Hojlund go.
He is almost as good in Europe as Hojlund. I am sold.
Understand your age logic, but it is irrelevant to us، as we are not looking for someone who might develop, we want someone who already knows how to do it.
Thats what football friends do to each other
Again though it's nothing special. Two of the three goals against City were Penalties.
If he was the top scorer in the competition and had almost single handidly dragged Sporting to the final I'd be impressed, but from everything I've seen and read about him he seems very average overall.
He'd obviously be a massive improvement on what we have but he's not the second coming of the Brazilian Ronaldo, the way that some people have been going on about him.
Like a lot of our big signings over the last ten years, I think a lot of people are going to end up disappointed and will see that he's not much better than most strikers in Europe right now.
You etched his CL record out, was the point.
It's the biggest competition and the one better used over performances in weaker leagues. He's been strong in it over 2 seasons.
Nothing special? You want us to sign someone who only scored 12 goals in the PL (2 of them penalties) so only 10 non penalty goals, over someone who scored almost 49 goals (16 of them penalties). That is 33 non penalty goals. I can not believe people are not impressed by 33 non penalty goals almost two seasons in raw.
You have to be joking. Gyokeres is widely regarded as one of the best strikers in Europe at the moment, Delap is another overhyped English player who is only 21. Enough with buying these young and unproven mid players with potential.
I am tired of Dorgu's and Hojlund's of this world. We are not a youth development center but Man Utd. No big club is buying this amount of unproven and young players and they aren't certainly prioritizing 18 to 20 year olds.
Gyokeres is a difference maker and we need to buy strikers who are in their prime. I would be fine with Delap being a backup striker but if he becomes our main striker, he's going to be another Hojlund.
He’s probably the best name on paper we can get this summer if he is an attainable target.
I think Osimhen is my ideal pick — freak box striker who absolutely dominates in the air — but it sounds like he’s priced out of a move.
We’re not swimming in the pools currently needed for Isak.
Delap seems okay but his main selling points are that he’s a clever signing; cheap, English, upside - rather than his actual quality right now.
I think we’re not after the latest Frankfurt pump and dump and don’t think Sesko is high up the radar.
I think Osimhen is my ideal pick — freak box striker who absolutely dominates in the air — but it sounds like he’s priced out of a move.
We’re not swimming in the pools currently needed for Isak.
Delap seems okay but his main selling points are that he’s a clever signing; cheap, English, upside - rather than his actual quality right now.
I think we’re not after the latest Frankfurt pump and dump and don’t think Sesko is high up the radar.
It feels like Delap should be bought only alongside Gyokeres or Osimhen.
It's not that he isn't talented, but he is still very young and putting a lot of pressure on a young player doesn't normally work well. Ideally we need a main striker and Delap who can get 20-25 starts and a lot of sub appearances. Saying that I'm not sure if Delap would go for being backup.
Sigh. I too like living in a fantasy. This is probably the plan, but I would be shocked if we actually manage to pull it off.
We need to beat Spurs first to stand any chance of this happening to be honest with ourselves.
Even then we would need to hope he would favour reuniting with Amorim and probably offer him hefty wages to tempt him. Maybe the lure of getting United back to success would make him think about joining us.
Right now I'd say there is a 10 percent chance he joins us which could be 20 percent if we win the EL. Still pretty likely be goes to Arsenal though in my opinion
We need to beat Spurs
We need Delap to choose Chelsea over us
We need amorim to convince those in charge of transfers that he's worth the money.
All easier said than done.
We need Delap to choose Chelsea over us
We need amorim to convince those in charge of transfers that he's worth the money.
All easier said than done.
If we get both, we clearly gotta get rid of Rasmus. Either loan or sell.
Fair. Who else are the reliable guys saying are gunning for him?
Hes not an exciting striker IMO but he knows where the net is and thats more important I guess. We need someone who knows how to lead the line and will be where he needs to be, when he needs to be there.
I think that almost any player that comes to the PL is a risk as its fundamentally harder than every other league. A lot of players who were average in the PL go on to look good or great elsewhere. Its not confidence or other bollocks, its time, space, intensity, pressing and the physicality of it. Its just harder to do the same things in the PL.
I'm not sure he has that X factor that makes me sure he would do well in the PL and certainly he isn't going to transform us but at the prices quoted, hes about as good as it gets.
I think that almost any player that comes to the PL is a risk as its fundamentally harder than every other league. A lot of players who were average in the PL go on to look good or great elsewhere. Its not confidence or other bollocks, its time, space, intensity, pressing and the physicality of it. Its just harder to do the same things in the PL.
I'm not sure he has that X factor that makes me sure he would do well in the PL and certainly he isn't going to transform us but at the prices quoted, hes about as good as it gets.
He's an exciting striker in the same way someone like Haaland or Lewandowski are exciting strikers. They don't wow you with their fancy schmancy footwork, but they have great shooting/finishing and have a knack of getting on the end of chances come hell or high water. That's pretty exciting to me considering what we've been served up these last couple of years
I understand it's highly highly unlikely he can put up anywhere near the same numbers for us as he did at Sporting considering the more competitive league and also that we aren't exactly creating tons of chances, but if we could sign a striker who can get us 20 league goals the improvement from where we are now would be huge
Reliable reports are that he is Arsenals top choice to solve their striker problems and he has given them the green light. Arsenal do have to negotiate however as they won't be paying the release clause so it could easily breakdown, particularly as there is a story that Arteta would prefer to sign Sesko who to be fair they have been scouting for ages.
So it's between us and Arsenal? The bolded I hadn't heard yet, who's said that?
More of an aggregator type thing, no attributable quote but most of the reporting around the Arsenal deal says he has indicated to them that they are his first choice. Portugese media today are saying Arsenal have agreed a 58.9M deal with Sporting and are now finalizing personal terms but I have no idea if they can be believed, it was supposedly on the front page of O Jogo under the headline "Swede on His Way to Arsenal".
Meh we seem to already be km talks with Delap... This transfer window is already depressing with Frimpong and Kerkez both heading to the scouse. If Gyökeres now joins Arse too whilst we settle for this Delap guy...
Yeah, for the dross we’ve been served up for some time now, watching an effective, focused striker doing his thing would be hugely exciting for me.
The modern day Isak’s are for another time, when we’re more familiar with being an attacking threat again and look for finesse and guile in our strikers again.
Delap is also going to talk with Chelsea and others before making a decision
Assist machines
Frimpong probably would have been one.
Moving Bruno to a 10 would be another
Goncalves maybe?
Show him the “Wharton is the new Carrick” highlights reel
Fine by me!
don't care if we sign Delap and Cunha....this lad should be the top target this summer and it shouldn't be close
we need a proven goal scorer
we need a proven goal scorer
‘Widely regarded’ is not really my concern tbh. There isn’t much quality around in the 9 position. Just because he’s one of the best available experienced striker doesn’t make him a special striker. I don’t see much more than what Delap could be capable of in the near future personally.
Delap is really getting overhyped on here
Not by me he isn’t. I’m underhyping Gyokeres more than anything. Delap is a good young striker that can hold his own at this level though. Stylistically, I see a lot of similarity with him and Gyokeres. Gyokeres may take the next step at his next club, but I don’t think what he’s shown so far makes him a bonafide world class striker.
For 30m and maybe 100-120k p/w - I think Delap is a fantastic market opportunity. He offers no guarantee, but his price point means that we would have a relatively easy exit strategy if needed. It just makes sense. I think Gyokeres is not enough of a sure thing to warrant the significantly higher outlay. I’d happily take him at United too, but I wouldn’t be mad at Delap instead.
Opinions can be different but if anything I think Delap is the overrated one.
Seen some analysis videos of Gyokeres and I can see where there maybe some doubts about his ability to step up to a more difficult league and continue being so prolific. So hard to tell. Be very curious as to where he ends up.
I think Delap and Gyokeres look quite similar, albeit the latter is further developed.
This is a front 3 where each player has a fairly similar backup:
------- Gyokeres ------
--------- Delap ------
Cuhna ------- Bruno
Zirkzee ----- Mount
Nacho super sub
Amad RWB
In summary: GET BOTH
This is a front 3 where each player has a fairly similar backup:
------- Gyokeres ------
--------- Delap ------
Cuhna ------- Bruno
Zirkzee ----- Mount
Nacho super sub
Amad RWB
In summary: GET BOTH
Would be a monstrous signing. However, I'm unconvinced that we can make it happen.
Win on Wednesday and we definitely have a chance.
Anyone who thinks Delap is a better transfer than Gyokeres seems to be content with top 10. I want top 6 at least.
All 39 league goals this season: