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Dembele since the new year.Salah, Mbappé, Mané, Son...
Dembele since the new year.Salah, Mbappé, Mané, Son...
He could be, also Nkunku could be in the mix if we consider him a winger, far smarter than Vinicius even if his football IQ improved since last season.Dembele since the new year.
He was up against Reece James, who can lock down most attackers. Vinicius won't be the first or the last to be pocketed by James. He still had the quality to create the crucial winning the goal the one time he slipped away from his marker.He's a really good player, better than I thought. But he gave the ball away 21 times last night and I just made that fact up but you weren't shocked were you? Exactly, he didn't play well last night, still had a big influence on the result which is important.
And he kept showing for the ball, kept working hard. Fergie loved that about Ronaldo.
My nans better than Rashford at the momentBetter than Rashford, I'd say.
Absolutely, I posted the exact same in this thread last night.He was up against Reece James, who can lock down most attackers. Vinicius won't be the first or the last to be pocketed by James. He still had the quality to create the crucial winning the goal the one time he slipped away from his marker.
I like him a lot. He's very talented and he has that 'keep going, don't let your head drop when things aren't coming off for you' thing about him that I admire.
He's been absolute shite tonight and James has been brilliant against him. Still making a difference with the assist though.
In the same way Robert De Niro is a better actor than meBetter than Rashford, I'd say.
That's my thinking, too. It's a bit reminiscent of the Cristiano signing when they had to offload Robinho although he just had his best season for them. Benzema, Vinicius and Mbappe. At least one of them has to sit on the bench or play out of position in their regular formation. And if they switch to a 4-4-2 or something like that, they will have to sacrifice one of their midfielders which is a dilemma in itself since they are excellent there, too (Modric, Casemiro, Kroos, Valverde). And if Haaland joins them, too, it becomes almost unsolvable. Especially since Benzema is probably still better than him.I wonder how effective he is going to be playing off the right - presumably that'll be the plan next season if they end up getting Mbappe. Would be a shame after the season he's had and the progress he's making to slide him over to a position where he's not as comfortable and that might stunt his development as he looks well on his way to being a top player.
Vinicius has been absolutely horrendous whenever he played as a right winger most of the time. He looks like an absolute beast as a left winger playing much closer towards the goal. Vincius is then able to cut inside to make an attempt for scoring a goal or making a pass to Benzema or another fellow Madrid teammate.I wonder how effective he is going to be playing off the right - presumably that'll be the plan next season if they end up getting Mbappe. Would be a shame after the season he's had and the progress he's making to slide him over to a position where he's not as comfortable and that might stunt his development as he looks well on his way to being a top player.
Mbappe hasn't played on the right on consistent basis since 17/18 season. He spends most of his time as a left inside forward, which is the exact same role Vinicius does for Real Madrid.Mbappe is hardly out of position on the right. He's played there loads.
That was at a different time, wasn't it? I can't imagine Mbappe would accept being played on the right. It seems to me he's clearly favoring the striker position now where he can maximize his goal scoring. He may settle for a similar role to Cristiano's for them, as a left forward who cuts in and occupies the box a lot but that's much more difficult to replicate from the right. And even from the left, it woul dprobably require Benzema to be much more selfless again, too.Mbappe is hardly out of position on the right. He's played there loads.
Saka will surely be sought after by City Liverpool and others in the post WC summer/next couple of yearsIt will be a big issue if Real do get Mbappe - Vinicius is an emerging superstar and both are most effective playing LW. Mbappe as a sole striker won't be as effective as he is with space out wide (similar to Cristiano).
Of course because it's Mbappe you have to sign him, but what Real really need is a left footed RW. Problem is top quality RWs are a rare breed.
It's also another reason I feel Benzema is underrated. Playing the striker position in modern 4-3-3 where you need to link play is very hard, especially when you have wide players whose first aim is to score and not to assist. Firmino another one that gets underrated a lot playing there.
I'm assuming it will be Mbappe on the right until Benzema ages out, then Mbappe central and a new RW will be brought in when Benzema leaves.That was at a different time, wasn't it? I can't imagine Mbappe would accept being played on the right. It seems to me he's clearly favoring the striker position now where he can maximize his goal scoring. He may settle for a similar role to Cristiano's for them, as a left forward who cuts in and occupies the box a lot but that's much more difficult to replicate from the right. And even from the left, it woul dprobably require Benzema to be much more selfless again, too.
One way or another, there's lots of potential for drama. Even if Mbappe plays the same position as Ronaldo did, will Benzema be okay with playing second fiddle again now that he's finally in the lime light? Will Mbappe maybe even replace Benzema as a starter to play in his favorite position and make room for Vinicius on the left? It seems like one of those three will fall short and Madrid might decide that it has to be Benzema because the other two have many more years of elite football in them.
When I watch his development and rise to highest level, it gives me hope about Hudson-Odoi. Similar players with similar strength and weaknesses.This kid deserves some love. Scored the winning goal in a CL final, tracked back all game long and even tried an outrageous dive
Most improved player in European football by far
Out of 20 similar players (flashy and young), not many reach their real potential. Mbappe not going there will help him tbh tooWhen I watch his development and rise to highest level, it gives me hope about Hudson-Odoi. Similar players with similar strength and weaknesses.
Rate him very highly. This is what wide players should be - fast and techical dribblers. The goals can always be added later.This kid deserves some love. Scored the winning goal in a CL final, tracked back all game long and even tried an outrageous dive
Most improved player in European football by far
That's very true. Vinicius' rise has been so impressive to watch. I hope Tuchel is watching him and seeing what I see in CHO.Out of 20 similar players (flashy and young), not many reach their real potential. Mbappe not going there will help him tbh too
If he was one of our pampered players, he would’ve crumbled after that. You can’t survive at Madrid without having thick skin. Thats why they have the mentality they do to keep on winning.Still remember when Benzema went rogue on him in the tunnel and had to apologise.
Coming back from that and scoring a CL winning goal is commendable in this day and age.
Man are you being serious? Now you comparing Vini to Odoi I mean come on man.When I watch his development and rise to highest level, it gives me hope about Hudson-Odoi. Similar players with similar strength and weaknesses.
Yes?Man are you being serious? Now you comparing Vini to Odoi I mean come on man.
Odoi isn’t nearly as fast or explosive as Vinicius for starters.Yes?