Yep, he’s only close to the ball because he’s trying to block the shot. His movement to block the ball came before the stills being shown so 100 percent a penalty
Was it a penalty (part 2)?
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We certainly got away with that one.
This basically is the perfect first reply.
People are influenced, and impacted, in this case referees after what they saw the whole week prior.
The refs aren't corrupt or anything. They are just not good enough and that has been shown time and time again, even more so since VAR has been introduced.
They now have a crutch to not make decisions,and then the VAR has the copout like we saw in this game.
Media scrutiny has a massive impact too. If the media and pundits made a massive deal about city (for example) fouling and escaping yellows to break up play, this would be planted in the referees mind and would influence the next few games.
Karma laws state you'll get fecked over next week....
Exactly. It's completely different if the defender is standing there in the first place and the ball hits his hand, but when the defender is rushing into a block, he's 100% to blame for being so close to the ball in the first place. Therefore, him being close to the ball and handballing is a moot point. I feckin hate VAR. In the past you could excuse such decisions in being in the heat of the moment and him being close to the ball. With VAR, they should be able to see that it is the defender moving towards the ball and thus creating that situation himself. Then again, they tend to use still images, ffs.
The tackle on Bruno - why the hell isn't that reviewed from VAR? Even the camera man did his job showing Porro, or who the hell it was, as rather guilty. Seeing as Bruno actually bled from the middle of his shin, I just don't understand there not at least being a review on it. It was far worse than Casemiro's send off last season.
It wasn't even mentioned at half time. It's fecking scandalous and corrupt. They would've given that at OT all day long. The fact it was at an away ground, with a crowd that seemed to be almost Newcastle/Liverpool like in their ability to claim for every little thing, the ref and VAR bottled it and it's 100% because of the media giving the decision from Monday almost a week worth of air time.
Yeah, agreed. I don't think it's some conspiracy, that they consciously decided to make up for the call in the Wolves game - but referees are human and as you say, they are absolutely influenced by factors outside the game itself.
Yep. It was the final straw in my emotional involvement with the 'product' that is the PL. There is next to no integrity within the league anymore
What would have happen if the ball had been deflected into the net?
Do u mean proper fecked?
Because the ball was out of play when the contact happened
I think we all expected something like that to happen judging by this thread. People called it last week and surprise surprise. The referees in this country are so predictable.
after seeing what happened at Spurs yesterday.
Out of curiosity do you still think this is so far fetched
after seeing what happened at Spurs yesterday.
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Both Wolves and Utd, should have been penalties ….no score draw.
They probably would've blown the whistle and given a pen then
That is what i am saying. He ran to the ball with his arms out.
THat would be the longest 6 inches in the history of humankind.
Duffer goes round saying he's 6 inches long, he has issues with the measuring system.
Maybe someone mentioned this already, but on Norwegian TV they did something they apparently can do, and contacted VAR for an explanation. What they got back was that the shot was deemed to be from too close a distance to warrant a call.
Which I don't think makes any sense, given that Romero had his arm sticking straight out, directly in the area any shot would need to pass through in order to hit goal.
Which I don't think makes any sense, given that Romero had his arm sticking straight out, directly in the area any shot would need to pass through in order to hit goal.
Which really means it's 2" long
And probably have those paid reviews to "likes" his instagram post.Which really means it's 2" long
It's bullshit at worst, overthinking it at best.
Back in the old days, in my country, they were doing entry-level seminars for aspiring refs who had just read the rulebook. On of the most frequent questions was whether the severity of the penalty as punishment should offer room for leniency on certain occasions or not. Case in point, a handball when it seems that the ball is probably going out or will be saved by the keeper.
You may find it childish, but this is exactly what a lot of professional refs still do. It's also the angle a lot of pundits base their narrative on. It wouldn't have gone in, so try to find a window in the rule book to say it was not a penalty.
Anyhow, the teachers in these seminars always gave the same answer:"If it's a pen, according to the rules, on the simplest of occasions you can think, it's a penalty in any given time".
With that in mind, picture this. Romero's handball occurs right on the goal line. Out of a 100 refs would there be a single one who would not blow his whistle?
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It's not given because the Wolves one wasn't given, so they think maybe two wrongs make a right?.. Wolves wasn't a pen imo coming together by 2 Wolves players before Keeper came out, and that was a Hand ball all day long and we all knew it wasn't going to be given..
Utd were awarded I think with a about 3 other clubs the lowest amount of pens last season.?
With City and Arsenal I think top 2 ?
Utd were awarded I think with a about 3 other clubs the lowest amount of pens last season.?
With City and Arsenal I think top 2 ?
What never ceases to amaze me is how VAR deliberately chooses the angles where you can't see feck all to guide a decision.
Anyone tell me why the feck this was not a pen?
Look at how simple it is to establish "he made himself big" and I'm on a phone sliding my hand over it
It’s paused at the wrong part imo. He was diving in to block the shot long before this with his arms making himself biggerWhat never ceases to amaze me is how VAR deliberately chooses the angles where you can't see feck all to guide a decision.
Look at how simple it is to establish "he made himself big" and I'm on a phone sliding my hand over it
We've been shafted for penalties ever since Klopp mouthed off and they altered the VAR rules again.
Agree when klopp had his hissy fit about Bruno scoring pens, there has been less and less..