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He's no Bilal Ilyas Jhandir
Most of those things are explained if you watch all 6 seasons.
You're funny.Most of those things are explained if you watch all 6 seasons.
I'd emphasize that its rating on IMDB is in the middle, but most people did not rate it on IMDB at all. The End (part 1) has 12,000 votes. The End (part 2) has 2,000 votes. Lost averaged 19 million viewers per episode, so 12,000 out of 19 million is a rounding error. The finale was mocked and ridiculed, and no one was satisfied with it. There were a couple weepy moments - who wouldn’t be sad with the final realization thatThe ending of LOST had a good-mixed reception when it came out. The people who didn't like it have been very loud and created the false impression that the ending is widely disliked, but it's just not true. The rating on IMDB for the finale (averaged proportionally from Pts 1 and 2) is 8.4. This would put it in the middle of all episodes (highest rated are 9.7, lowest rated are 7.1). I would note, though, that it is the lowest ranked finale (8 of the top 10 ranked episodes are parts of a season finale).
GoT and LOST are quite different in how they work. In GoT, the plot and the characters are one and the same. The story is mostly about the interaction between different characters and the groups or institutions they belong to. The White Walker stuff is the more "plotty" part, but it takes up very little screentime. In LOST, there is more separation. There is a "plot" involving mysteries, lore, etc. that the audience can speculate on, and there are characters, who are mostly randos and bystanders that are trying to survive.
I think this is why the reception to both finales was quite different. There is less hatred of LOST finale because you can separate plot and characters. Few people object to what happens to the characters. Most of the people who dislike the ending didn't care about what happened to the characters, they don't like the finale because they wanted more/better focus on the plot/mystery.
That was the thing: early on, the writers claimed everything they were showing had a scientific explanation. They also promised the characters were not in a type of limbo or afterlife or alternate timeline. They lied about both things. Lindelof bragged that he was paid to come up with ideas, not answers. The success of season 1 forced them to change a ton of shit they had planned. Such as, Tom Cruise’s cousin William Mapother (Ethan) was supposed to be a huge character , but then they decided to give that stuff to Ben.I might finally watch the last season one day. Lost interest once I realised there were no answers to the questions they kept raising.
No they didn’t. They were not in an afterlife or limbo!That was the thing: early on, the writers claimed everything they were showing had a scientific explanation. They also promised the characters were not in a type of limbo or afterlife or alternate timeline. They lied about both things. Lindelof bragged that he was paid to come up with ideas, not answers. The success of season 1 forced them to change a ton of shit they had planned.
They weren't.That was the thing: early on, the writers claimed everything they were showing had a scientific explanation. They also promised the characters were not in a type of limbo or afterlife or alternate timeline. They lied about both things. Lindelof bragged that he was paid to come up with ideas, not answers. The success of season 1 forced them to change a ton of shit they had planned.
Does that actually make sense to you -- or contradict what I wrote?They weren't.
Everything that happened on the island, and after the island for many happened. They were all alive.
It was only the 'season 6 flash 'sideways' that was purgatory to make peace with their lives and it was explained that when they died, they went to the flight as a fixed point in their afterlife and it landed, and they lived out a life there until they all went to the church together and met up to enter what I assume was heaven.
Yes it makes sense and yes it contradicts what you wrote.Does that actually make sense to you -- or contradict what I wrote?
yes & yesDoes that actually make sense to you -- or contradict what I wrote?
Did they really? What scientific explanation were you expecting for a paraplegic suddenly being able to walk again after surviving a fecking horrific air crash? Or ghosts walking around the fecking jungle?That was the thing: early on, the writers claimed everything they were showing had a scientific explanation.
Yes to both. I’m surprised that you don’t get the flash sideways in the final season given it’s probably one of the least ‘confusing’ mysteries of the show.Does that actually make sense to you -- or contradict what I wrote?
I was numb at that point. I had given up.Yes to both. I’m surprised that you don’t get the flash sideways in the final season given it’s probably one of the least ‘confusing’ mysteries of the show.
Once again, Jack's father spelled it out in the series Finale. I don't understand why so many struggle to understand this.That was the thing: early on, the writers claimed everything they were showing had a scientific explanation. They also promised the characters were not in a type of limbo or afterlife or alternate timeline.
Kinda feel the same given this back and forth with you bro.I was numb at that point. I had given up.
I'll be honest, it's a pretty boring episode. There's some casual flirting between Kate and Sawyer to begin with (great shots of Kate swimming in her swimming gear) but the episode is the first one in season 1 where I felt it was more filler than anything else. From the backstory we learn how desperate Kate was to get this deposit box, even being part of a fake heist to get into the area. Also, interesting tidbit - the deposit box number is 815, (which is a call back to Oceanic 815) and the number that reoccurs throughout the show. Locke and Boone are still working on the hatch, but other than that not a lot happens. There's some interesting scenes with Shannon and Sayid too. There's some scenes for Rose as well, as she helps Charlie overcome his PTSD from being hung. The first 11 episodes have been pretty rough for Charlie - plane crash, drug withdrawals (and bee stings) and now he was almost killed. Claire is still missing.While swimming, Kate finds the marshal's locked case. Jack agrees to help Kate open the case if she will show him what is inside it. There are guns inside and a toy airplane. Kate says the airplane belonged to the man she loved—and killed. Shannon helps Sayid translate some of Danielle Rousseau's maps. Flashbacks show Kate robbing a bank in order to recover the toy airplane.
So this was Boone centric episode - one that I had forgotten a lot about, but we really see the lengths of Locke's...doucheyness here. He knocks Boone unconscious, drugs him, and leaves him tied up in the jungle with ol' smokey lurking. And he does this because Boone wanted to tell Shannon about the hatch! Crazy. The interesting thing is Boone sees Shannon being killed by ol'smokey when he's having his hallucination...and Locke interestingly says, 'So that's what it showed you?'.Shannon's relationship with Sayid gets more personal. Locke and Boone try to get into the hatch they found. Boone wants to tell Shannon about the hatch and Locke gives him a drug that causes him to hallucinate, sending him on a mental trip which eventually helps him to let go of Shannon. In flashbacks, Boone tries to get rid of Shannon's abusive boyfriend by paying him off, only to find out that it was all a scam perpetrated by Shannon, who proceeds to sleep with Boone.