I tend to agree. I don't think he has that explosive burst that used to get him extra time and space against defenders. I think he could evolve into a quality midfield player.
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Arguably, Scholes' best ever season was 02/03 and not simply because he scored 20 goals, he was just the catalyst for almost everything we did with his passing and movement. He used to play off Ruud usually in front of Keane and Veron? Now because in the last 5/6 years Scholes has played a lot deeper they don't think it's plausible to say Rooney can step into his shoes, but when he plays well he's probably the most similar player to a younger Scholes that's out there.
The instinct to pop up for goals, he can score a screamer, his long range passing is wonderful. Rooney can overplay things and be wasteful at times, but when comparing him to Scholes, you will always pick up a flaw or two because Scholes is/was the most talented British player of his generation.
I think if you have Rooney and RVP in the same side, you play Rooney deep. No, he's not Zidane, and he's not going to split defences with one pass that much, but hardly anyone in football can.
He generally thrives in that position. It's not just about running at people - which I agree is something he's lost a bit - it's about being the focal point of the team, linking defence and attack as moves develop. Even this season I thought he worked pretty damn well paired with Van Persie (including, as it happens, a few fairly magical defence-splitting passes).
But there's no real difference between where Scholes played in that set-up and how Rooney plays as a withdrawn striker anyway.
Those 9 games included some of the matches in the title run in and the cup final. It certainly seemed logical to play him and Stam at the back, with Johnsen and Butt in midfield, Giggs on the left and Becks on the right. Looking back at how we looked for most of the game, we probably SHOULD have done that.
What's all this talk of it ruining his career? Wasn't the main injury a knee injury sustained that next pre season?
As for May, at least if he'd played in that final it would have justified him parading around after right in the middle of the celebrations John Terry style!
I wonder when we'll hear more news on the situation, I really hope it doesn't drag on and on.
You know it will...
I assume after our last game. I hope all this will be all certain within a month.
Apparently Fergie told Rooney during the last talk he'll talk to him again after the West Brom game.
Where did you get that from?
We all know he doesn't want to be here anymore it's time we sold him and moved on. You can put one transfer request in and say it was a mistake or a tactic to get a new contact but 2 transfer requests in 3 seasons and a change in attitude on the field and there's only one thing to do and that's to feck him off.
Except that I'd waaaaaay rather have the Scholes from 02/03 than the Rooney of now filling that role.
Although I will admit, that if Moyes talks him into staying (or points out to him that realistically there really very few transfer options for him that would suit the club- which eliminates City / Chelsea) that this is the role Rooney will fill.
That's just what some of the articles said regarding the chat that he and Fergie had. They said that Fergie told him he'll talk to him after the West Brom game after Rooney asked about his future role in the team/squad. Could be bullshit, but it is likely they'll talk then anyway.
Here's one article that mentions it...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/wayne-rooney-fears-manchester-united-1883942
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/wayne-rooney-fears-manchester-united-1883942
Hopefully by this time next week it will be sorted out one way or another.
From what I gather, a lot of this saga is to do with Rooney and Fergie's relationship recently. Now Fergie is retiring, he will have to think twice about what his reasons for leaving are now, because Moyes may have entirely different plans for him in terms of playing time and position.
I don't think anyone knows what his reasons for wanting away are.
Well given he is a striker, how on earth can he be seen as a 'natural' replacement for Scholes? If he does replace him, it will be a very unnatural replacement.
Scholes was once a striker.
So was Evra.
You know that point is totally irrelevant because Evra was never a top-class forward at a proper level. What is it with some folk on here?!
That's an unfair comparison as Rooney's in poor form.
I don't think there's much to choose between Scholes and Rooney at their best in the second striker position. Both incredible players.
So was Rio.
Up until the age of 27?
As was Welbeck.
He's a greedy soppy-bollocks?
So has this moved on at all or are we in just the same place we were on Sunday?
No change in his actual contract status, but there has been some movement on here: we've now convinced ourselves that he's not only a greedy cnut and a terrible human being who hates Man United, but also a functional alcoholic who's terrible at football and can no longer run. Not to mention that he orchestrated the entire timing of Fergie's retirement, as part of his sinister masterplan, despite being thick as pigshit.
Newbs have also decided that Barca will swap him for Thiago Alishazaam or whatever his name is.
When I picture Rooney joining Barcelona, all I can think of is their training sessions being like that John Smiths advert.
Messi plays with it a bit, passes to Iniesta who does some stepovers and keepy-uppys, then to Dani Alves who catches it on the back of his neck then flicks it to Rooney.. PUNT.. "Av it"
Messi plays with it a bit, passes to Iniesta who does some stepovers and keepy-uppys, then to Dani Alves who catches it on the back of his neck then flicks it to Rooney.. PUNT.. "Av it"
Out! GET HIM OUT!
Funnily enough, Barca could probably do with a bit of "av it" from time to time.
Sack Moyes, sell Rooney?
That's such an unfair example, he's played in virtually every position at top level, they don't call him the Mr. Versatile for nothing.
Exactly! Because Rooney's such a guileless oaf with a football.
Swap? You mean give us as a token of appreciation with CASHHH€€€€€€
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