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Worst player ever to wear the shorts
It s not outrageous to say I wouldnnot buy the current Pogba for 100 mils at the moment. He has great potential, but has yet to show he deserves having a team of our stature built around him based on the last 2 seasons
Play him on the LHS of a midfield 3, yes so he can clog up even more the area that Sanchez plays best in?
Give him a chance he will improve, yes a 25 year old with the mentality of a 15 year old.
Fergie would not let this guy anywhere near the first team. And the same goes for his compatriot Martial, who equally disappears in big/difficult matches. Both of them are flat track bullies, sell to Madrid for £200m and but two decent CMs who know their job plus a decent right winger.
Pogba is a liability not an asset.
You're right about SAF. He wouldn't allow players with attitude on the pitch to be undroppable.
What does Pogba btring to make him undroppable...?
But you're wrong about Madrid - there's no way anyone would be bidding more than 60/70m for him now - which is probably about right.
fecking VVD was sold for 75 Million and you think no one bids more than 70 Million for Pogba?
One bad game and everyone who are waiting from last 6-7 months are back.
What does Pogba brings to the team? Not sure that's a serious question.
Liverpool overpaid, comically.
It's not one bad game with Pogba - it's a constant string of going missing at the most important of times, continual awful decision making (even in his good games) and a lack of true quality when it matters most.
What has Pogba actually brought to us in almost 2 seasons? I like the guy, but this is a hype job. He's a talented player against opposition that give him room, but the slightest of presses and he folds...
Added to that, he doesn't really have a true position - an attribute that has become more and more clear these last 2 seasons.
And yes, it's a serious question, what has he brought to Man Utd in 2 seasons? Mkhi was as important to us winning the EL as Pogba was.
The season before he joined we won the FA Cup. So it's not like we were incapable of competing before him.
We've gotten worse in big games since he joined (and started every big game that he's available for), think about that.
If you were an oppo manager of a decent team, facing Pogba, what would you be saying to your team...? Would you be scared? Or would you look forward to putting the press on him and basically knowing that you'll be playing against a team with one fecking proper midfielder (Matic)?
Like I said, I like Pogba. I want him to come good. But we're an elite club, and Pogba is on an elite wage.
As of yet. he doesn't deserve this status at Man Utd, as he's done nothing to earn it.
haha, right.How am I still a newbie and there are posts like this.
How am I still a newbie and there are posts like this.
Do you think its a complete joke? I feel like Noods often sensationalises his posts for effect - butunderneath all that I think he is making a serious point that he believes.Can't believe how many people actually believe the OP is serious.
The world has gone mad. Madder.
Can't believe how many people actually believe the OP is serious.
The world has gone mad. Madder.
Considering the wide range of formations played these days, I don't really get the thing about referring to positions as numbers. Just a bit of a pet peeve of mine.Big game. Poor opposition.
Ha. Robson was literally number 7. Didn’t mean he was a right winger.
Don’t worry, there’s another thread which is a wind up about De Gea, perhaps it was posted in response to this one but what would I know? seems some threads are made up just so people can cnut you off for falling for itAre you for real? Look at his previous posts regarding Pogba. It's agenda driven bollox, is what it is.
Don’t worry, there’s another thread which is a wind up about De Gea, perhaps it was posted in response to this one but what would I know? seems some threads are made up just so people can cnut you off for falling for it
Liverpool overpaid, comically.
It's not one bad game with Pogba - it's a constant string of going missing at the most important of times, continual awful decision making (even in his good games) and a lack of true quality when it matters most.
He's a talented player against opposition that give him room, but the slightest of presses and he folds...
Added to that, he doesn't really have a true position - an attribute that has become more and more clear these last 2 seasons.
The season before he joined we won the FA Cup. So it's not like we were incapable of competing before him.
We've gotten worse in big games since he joined (and started every big game that he's available for), think about that.
If you were an oppo manager of a decent team, facing Pogba, what would you be saying to your team...? Would you be scared? Or would you look forward to putting the press on him and basically knowing that you'll be playing against a team with one fecking proper midfielder (Matic)?
Like I said, I like Pogba. I want him to come good. But we're an elite club, and Pogba is on an elite wage.
As of yet. he doesn't deserve this status at Man Utd, as he's done nothing to earn it.
Embarrassingly enough for me, I agree. Was thinking pretty much the same thing yesterday. Our 'marquee' players just don't stand up and be counted when it matters. Pogba just struts around trying to do cheeky little things instead of driving the teamNo one wants to say it because he has ability and cost a shite load of money, but it's more true than the thread saying the same about Lukaku.
Pogba is a playground footballer. Turns up to show off in games where the opposition are poor enough to allow us the luxury of him doing so. As soon as the team need him however, you can forget it.
He is more interested in inventing silly handshake routines, showing off, and wanting people to look at his hair, than he ever will be in working hard to help his team win a game.
He has the selfishness of a Gerrard or a Ronaldo but without any of the desire, determination, or basic maturity to go with it, and he's 24 years old. It is unlikely at this point he will ever grow up, and that means he will never be more than a liability in any game where it is important for him to put in work for the benefit of the team.
The idea some people have of playing him further forward because he doesn't work hard enough to play in central midfield is a nonsense...as if playing him in another position somehow makes it less important that he works hard. In a succesful team, every player works harder than Paul Pogba ever does.
The fact is that he is on a pedestal as United's best player, but when you look at City (i.e. the team top of the league), if Paul Pogba played for them in the same way he does for United, he would be told to either grow up or feck off. He wouldn't get close to getting a game for them unless he had a serious change of attitude. At United he seems to go completely unchecked for it because he can showboat around onceor twice every ten games, against the likes of Stoke.
I actually afraid that Fergie called it right on some level. And that while being incredibly talented and gifted, Pogba just has this daunting personality, the kind that will never allow him to be leader in the team and produce greatest performances when it would matter most, give 150% of yourself in these tough situations for the team. Something that all great players do.
He does not have character for it. Of course in terms of maturity the guy is still young, i mean 24, we look at it from the football point of view and it seems like a middle age of sorts. But actually in non-sport world that is a guy who just finished uni, well maybe two years ago, and most likely on his first serious job, still getting his bearings etc. So he might grow up and change.
But right now i say that his character flaws are obviously limiting him in what he can achieve. I spoke with a couple of french guys after 2016 and all of them said that Pogba did not perform in a way they expected that he was too soft in a way.
He also thought that Pogba's head was not 100% in the game and that is why he slowed his inclusion.What ? Fergus wanted him to stay.
He also thought that Pogba's head was not 100% in the game and that is why he slowed his inclusion.
One of the worst threads I have ever seen.