What does a manager do? Can you manage the team better?

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

There is no guarantee that an experienced manager will always be successful.

We've seen cases when a new manager is successful beyond predictions.

So, what makes a good manager? Two questions:

1) Someone who imposed his philosophy or style from day 1 or someone who played to his best player and tweaks slowly?

2) Do you think if you had a magical opportunity to manage United, you can do a better job than Jose?

 

[el3mel]

Is this thread supposed to be all armchair managers unleashing their ideas freely ?

 

[Decomposing In Paris]

1) Yes

2) Probably not, no.

 

[whatwha]

1) Yes

2) Probably not, no.

I really don't like people who answer "yes" to an either/or question

 

[Decomposing In Paris]

I really don't like people who answer "yes" to an either/or question

Good managers have had success with both approaches. Neither approach makes you a poor manager... but sure if you're gonna take a personal dislike to me, that's your prerogative.

 

[Womp]

Not appreciating Jose's managerial style and thinking another manager would do better is completely understandable, but if there's someone on here who genuinely thinks they'd do a better job managing Manchester United than Mourinho, they should consider getting evaluated.

 

[Cal?]

2) No

I was convinced I'd have done better than Moyes, but not Jose.

 

[99withaflake]

Of course I couldn't finish with more points than Jose, but I'm convinced I could both score and concede more goals with the same squad of players

 

[kouroux]

1) Yes
2) Definitely no

 

[VeevaVee]

Motivation and tactics make a good manager.

 

[Sky1981]

There is no guarantee that an experienced manager will always be successful.

We've seen cases when a new manager is successful beyond predictions.

So, what makes a good manager? Two questions:

1) Someone who imposed his philosophy or style from day 1 or someone who played to his best player and tweaks slowly?

2) Do you think if you had a magical opportunity to manage United, you can do a better job than Jose?

2. No. Even the likes of keane, queroz, phelan, giggs, brucey etc struggles to become a proper manager. What makes you think any commoners without proper qualifications can do better?

 

[Treble]

Only dumb people could believe they would manage the team better. To manage a team amounts to much more than choosing a particular tactics/player for a particular game. One must have an authority, to know how to manage egos, etc.

 

[Cassidy]

1) Neither really, you . need to be flexible enough to know what is needed in the current context/situation.
2) Of course not.

 

[JPRouve]

Not appreciating Jose's managerial style and thinking another manager would do better is completely understandable, but if there's someone on here who genuinely thinks they'd do a better job managing Manchester United than Mourinho, they should consider getting evaluated.

There are people in here who think that they would actually score a goal in the PL...

 

[cyril C]

There is no guarantee that an experienced manager will always be successful.

We've seen cases when a new manager is successful beyond predictions.

So, what makes a good manager? Two questions:

1) Someone who imposed his philosophy or style from day 1 or someone who played to his best player and tweaks slowly?

2) Do you think if you had a magical opportunity to manage United, you can do a better job than Jose?

What if your team needs an overhaul? How do you know who are the best players? Secondly, Moyes inherited a winning team, and he probably played his best players week in week out, what happened? What happened to Bayern Munich, a manager was sacked during early part of the season, with practically the same team of players, they ran away with the league title?

I am afraid your questions and logic are too simplistic. Even a FIFA game would put on more challenging logic.

 

[Lucas Hood!!]

In regards to your 2nd question define what you mean by a better job?

Could I instruct players to play a better /more entertaining style of football ? Yes absolutely

 

[Carolina Red]

In regards to your 2nd question define what you mean by a better job?

Could I instruct players to play a better more entertaining style of football ? Yes absolutely

Telling them is one thing. Teaching them how though... you think you're up for that?

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

There are people in here who think that they would actually score a goal in the PL...

If Karius was in goal, I think I'd have a decent chance tbh.

 

[Lucas Hood!!]

Telling them is one thing. Teaching them how though... you think you're up for that?

Most of if not all of them would have played in a more attacking style beforehand.

More reminding them than teaching them.

 

[Carolina Red]

Most of if not all of them would have played in a more attacking style beforehand.

More reminding them than teaching them.

Right...

Not appreciating Jose's managerial style and thinking another manager would do better is completely understandable, but if there's someone on here who genuinely thinks they'd do a better job managing Manchester United than Mourinho, they should consider getting evaluated.

 

[Womp]

Most of if not all of them would have played in a more attacking style beforehand.

More reminding them than teaching them.

That's not how football works mate. You wouldn't understand how to run a training session, you wouldn't receive respect from the players, you wouldn't know how to convince them of your methods, how to manage the egos etc. etc. Even if it was as simple as telling them to be more expressive and attacking, which it absolutely isn't, what makes you think they would listen to you? You're a nobody in the footballing community.

Our squad consists of a lot of young players who need to be managed as such, with extra care and guidance. It's one of Jose's short comings, not being more hands on with youngsters. You think it's something that you've mastered from your armchair? Please.

To say you could do anything better than one of the best managers of our generation is laughable. These are guys who are at the top of their trade for a reason, not because every armchair specialist thinks they are capable of having us playing breathtaking attacking football.

 

[99withaflake]

There are people in here who think that they would actually score a goal in the PL...

Give me a 5 year contract, in which I start every game at number 9, and I reckon I'd score a scrappy goal somewhere along the line.

Give me a peak David Beckham putting them on a plate, and I reckon I'd score 2 or 3.

 

[Snow]

1) A complicated question that probably no one on this forum can answer properly.

2) Anyone that honestly believes yes is deluded enough to warrant a ban.

What we as fans see is only 90 minutes of football being played. For the manager, the match itself is one of the smallest parts of his job. Most of his work has already been done that week and the rest is up to the players. Changing the formation midgame or making a substition isn't the magical solution that many people think.

 

[Fridge chutney]

There are people in here who think that they would actually score a goal in the PL...

I for sure could. It's not that hard with the right deliver and composure.

 

[Fridge chutney]

1) someone who understands the game.

2) absolutely not.

 

[spontaneus1]

There are people in here who think that they would actually score a goal in the PL...

I doubt I could even manage to score an OG.

 

[Boogie Man]

There are people in here who think that they would actually score a goal in the PL...

When I played Sunday League football, I normally played on the wing or up front, and I tended to normally score around 15 a season. Would have been a lot more but people just don't release the ball to you when they're supposed to.

So it's not a stretch to think, if I was playing up front in the PL every match, with much better service, and more games, I'd probably be hitting 30 a season.

 

[ship50]

1. Imposing philosophy/style won't work if you don't have the exact players who are willing to listen to you and do what is told. And in today's world of player power, going with the best players may make it difficult to tweak later because by that time, they would be expecting to have things their way. Man management is critical for a manager now in my opinion. Understanding each player's strengths, weaknesses and mentality and then try to get the best out of them.

2. Not possible for me to do better than Jose or any other professional manager for that matter. They have the knowledge, training and, most importantly, the experience. They do this everyday, in reality. I just play FM, ha ha!

 

[Sky1981]

If you think all you need to do to make a team attack is tell them to i think you're delusional.

I think even moyes would do 100x better job than me. And thats moyes let alone jose.

Armchair fans thinks it's simple to become a football manager, some of them dont even know how to set up a cone

 

[Footyislife]

I think the best way to think about it is that professional managers are far more skilled than any of us in the various facets the job demands. So a comparison is embarrassing and just stupid.

That doesn't mean though our criticism on certain actions managers take shouldn't be valued. Our ability to provide a fresh different perspective is probably why we see things better/differently in very narrow instances. But I'd take it with a grain of salt considering how easy it is to judge and make decisions from the outside, rather than the inside.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

There is no guarantee that an experienced manager will always be successful.

We've seen cases when a new manager is successful beyond predictions.

So, what makes a good manager? Two questions:

1) Someone who imposed his philosophy or style from day 1 or someone who played to his best player and tweaks slowly?

A manager who manages to attain success tailored to his resources

2) Do you think if you had a magical opportunity to manage United, you can do a better job than Jose?

No. That only happens in the FM universe

 

[kouroux]

There are people in here who think that they would actually score a goal in the PL...

 

[VeevaVee]

There are people in here who think that they would actually score a goal in the PL...

If you were fit enough, not one of those weirdos that doesn't know how to kick a ball and played up front you'd have every chance in a decent team, eventually. I'd be blowing out my arse just running to the box once though.
Doing a decent job of management however...no chance.

 

[JPRouve]

If you were fit enough, not one of those weirdos that doesn't know how to kick a ball and played up front you'd have every chance in a decent team, eventually. I'd be blowing out my arse just running to the box once though.
Doing a decent job of management however...no chance.

The simple fact that you started with an if is my point, the reality is that almost everyone in here would be bullied by PL players, they are infinitely better mentally and physically. Actual PL strikers struggle with goals.

 

[MUFC OK]

Motivating the players, understanding their character (the old cliché does he need a kick up the arse or an arm around the shoulder? has some truth to it), tactical astuteness, setting individual and team goals, taking an interest in the players lives, balancing game time, maintaining control and preventing in-fighting, there are so many facets, these are just off the top of my head.

I honestly think that keeping a happy, motivated and focused camp is the most important in football management as long as you have the quality of players required to compete.

 

[Andersons Dietician]

I’d imagine the hard part is implementing how you want that team to play and getting them to do what you want.
I’d have no idea how to implement

Klopps Gegenpressing. More complicated I bet than just chase people down.

Peps football no idea, lots of positional drilling i’d Imagine.

Jose’s way of playing seems a lot more simplistic but he’s the master of it

If you’re Joe Blogg from the block with absolutely no experience i’d Imagine bar maybe Mata the rest of our players would be like who the hell is this guy and why should I listen to him.

 

[Sassy Colin]

2) No

I was convinced I'd have done better than Moyes, but not Jose.

No manager at all would have done better than Moyes.

 

[Danish Wizard]

What does a manager do? A lot more than what we see in public. It's incredible hard work.

No one in here would do a better job than Mourinho. Maybe if Sir Alex Ferguson were hiding behind a crazy username he would be a better choice.
But keep it real, one thing is FM, another is to manage a top club in the PL for real..

 

[Green_Red]

Managing a football team is no different to any other workplace. Recognise your teams strengths and weaknesses. Try to motivate them. Coach them by watching and letting them know the things they do well and the things they dont. Try and put them in positions where you both maximise their skillset and you know they are happiest in. Try to understand their position and what makes them tick and show them empathy. Put your neck out for them to breathe loyalty. Try and get people with the best skillset i.e good footballera in this case. Easy right...

 

[JPRouve]

Managing a football team is no different to any other workplace. Recognise your teams strengths and weaknesses. Try to motivate them. Coach them by watching and letting them know the things they do well and the things they dont. Try and put them in positions where you both maximise their skillset and you know they are happiest in. Try to understand their position and what makes them tick and show them empathy. Put your neck out for them to breathe loyalty. Try and get people with the best skillset i.e good footballera in this case. Easy right...

That's essentially it but most people are totally unable to do that and you also need a lot of experience to do it properly and efficiently.