he's big and awkward to get past
like a large rock
like a large rock
What exactly does Fellaini offer ?
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Should have been gone in the summer. Instead he starts most games.
I want him to be sold, not because he's a bad player (I think he's decent) but because if he is in the team managers will resort to using him because of his size and presence. I feel like Pogba already does everything he does but can actually offer a lot more. Let's get a proper midfield destroyer who can dictate the play.
He offers physicality and the ability to follow instructions. Which is useful when you're trying to play the way we did against Liverpool, for example.
However, if we actually need to be constructive in our play (as we did after falling behind today) then he's a glaring weakness.
It's not that he was our only problem today. It's more that once grinding out a result stopped being an option, replacing him was the most obvious way of immediately improving the way our team was playing. Which is a fair indication of his limits.
However, if we actually need to be constructive in our play (as we did after falling behind today) then he's a glaring weakness.
It's not that he was our only problem today. It's more that once grinding out a result stopped being an option, replacing him was the most obvious way of immediately improving the way our team was playing. Which is a fair indication of his limits.
Given you imagine Fellaini is anywhere near as bad as Prunnier was, its unsurprising you have ran in to serious problems trying fathom certain things....
F*CK ALL!
What are his instructions then when you see him at times in ridiculously advanced positions, leaving his CM partner complete devoid of passing options. Look how Kante and Matic played close to each other as a contrast. From a positional POV, he's a disaster and I'm not even mentioning how loose is his marking.
Prunier was shit, Fellaini is at least equally shit. That is my opinion. You can agree or not. I don't care
He's in his fourth season as a United player!
He's been out of his depth since the first.
He's been out of his depth since the first.
How long is his contract? Moyes
The thing with Fellaini is when we start him we just accept he offers nothing creatively. We're happy to just write-off one of our midfielders from contributing to our attacks (that aren't set pieces) so there's more of a burden on the rest. None of our other midfielders gets that sort of free-pass and it's really not like he offers that much more defensively than the rest (again outside set pieces).
He offers us feck all. He wouldn't get near a decent team.
He should be on the bench ( only untill we get the chance to sell him ) to be thrown on for the last 10 minutes when we are losing as a last resort to lump the ball up to , that is the limit of his usefulness he is not , never has been and never will be good enough to play for United
He's completely atrocious on the ball, which I find hard to watch and to fathom considering the amount of money the club have had to spend on players.
Aside from that I still think his best use is up front, just keep him out of the way in midfield.
And he's also a free-kick waiting to happen for the opposition.
Aside from that I still think his best use is up front, just keep him out of the way in midfield.
And he's also a free-kick waiting to happen for the opposition.
I really don't get it......especially when we have a barely used Carrick on the bench
Had we hired Klopp or Pep Fellaini woyld have been one of the first out the door
Jesus....even Rodgers took a hit on Andy Carroll when he realised that keeping the big guy was only useful if you decide to go long ball
Had we hired Klopp or Pep Fellaini woyld have been one of the first out the door
Jesus....even Rodgers took a hit on Andy Carroll when he realised that keeping the big guy was only useful if you decide to go long ball
Actually,
I'm agreeing with your opinion. Namely that you are having issue fathom things. You caring certainly isn't required
Spot on. Hes good at breaking up play and defending set pieces, but once he is up against a mobile midfield he gets found out. Should not be a regular starter, but has his uses against the more physical sides
Was talking about this with a friend after the game, who absolutely hates him. I'm not his biggest fan - but I could see why we started him - as I felt he did well against Liverpool and was one of our better players before we entered our slump. He's a nuisance in midfield - breaks up play well and is a beast in the air defensively.
Against Chelsea I think Jose got it wrong - it may have been due to the fact we considered after 30 seconds - but it looked like he was playing further forward - ahead of Pogba. Pogbas not a number 10, but Fellaini definitely isn't - he looked completely lost and was ineffective.
I still think he should be sold - but he hasn't been awful in his 3 and a bit seasons at the club - I'd probably put him in our top 10 performers - which shows how much how standards have really dropped.
Against Chelsea I think Jose got it wrong - it may have been due to the fact we considered after 30 seconds - but it looked like he was playing further forward - ahead of Pogba. Pogbas not a number 10, but Fellaini definitely isn't - he looked completely lost and was ineffective.
I still think he should be sold - but he hasn't been awful in his 3 and a bit seasons at the club - I'd probably put him in our top 10 performers - which shows how much how standards have really dropped.
Warmth in winter
He's tall!!!
When a player is limited as he is then he needs to make up for it in other ways, for players like Kante and Schneiderlin they do through athleticism and stamina whereas Fellaini used to be his height before teams read him and found ways to nullify that threat. The other thing is that for the team to field Fellaini and still possess a certain amount of threat you need a player like Mata in the side so that he offers you, up top, what you have foregone in the middle.
He was too far forward yesterday. That must have been Mourinho's instructions. He is better deeper, breaking up play and playing simple passes, getting into both boxes at set pieces.
It's just the hair.
Well...He does look like a 1980's scouser which makes me laugh so I at least get some sort of entertainment out of him!
Fellaini in the team with Herrera and Pogba means the midfield still doesn't have that great passer that is constantly the calming presence always asking for the ball. Pogba can be that guy as he is a great passer, but he goes forward a lot. Fellaini is not a great passer, he's not mobile, and he's not the defensive specialist in the middle. This observation has nothing to do with how well he does in a certain match. Those are just the attributes of his in relation to his midfield partners.
There is no point to Fellaini if United are going to play Pogba and Herrera.
There is no point to Fellaini if United are going to play Pogba and Herrera.
The thing that always gets me is, even though one of his strengths is his supposed height, he's utterly useless at heading in a goalscoring situation... every header i can remember seems to float gently directly to the keeper.
But yeah, for me he offers nothing, other than his height for defensive situations... anything that involves creativity or forward play ends abruptly with him.
But yeah, for me he offers nothing, other than his height for defensive situations... anything that involves creativity or forward play ends abruptly with him.
He's tactically one of the most ill disciplined players I have watched, he lets runners ghost past him without chasing back or goes and stands up front. Although, I'm sure he will always have a high pass completion as he just gives the ball to the nearest player even if they are surrounded by opposition players. He's not a scapegoat, he's a liability.
That's a fair summary - people have short memories and it was only last Monday that we saw what Fellaini offers and that he can be very effective, the fact that he has been picked often by 3 different managers now shows that he is not as useless as many make out.
But he was picked for a certain gameplan and when we were chasing the game we needed more creativity so it made sense to change him - at the same time you see what we miss when he isnt there as Hazard and Kante both strolled through due to our midfield not picking up players properly.
I know right its as if the managers give him instructions to head up front.
If you cant figure out thats what he's asked to do and that's why he isnt dropped then no wonder you're so angry.
Yes, but it takes Blind and Smalling to spin the ladder for him, so even that use has its limits.
He has more creativity than fellaini lol
What does Fellaini offer? - Whipping boy status really....
Occasional interceptions, breaking up play, a bit of industry when trying to retrieve the ball (though not necessarily effectiveness), headed clearances when defending corners but just a bit of a nuisance when attacking corners, sometimes useful if played further forward and the opposition have a short full back, safety first passing, good chest control. That's all I can think of.
Shouldn't be a regular starter in big games unless lots of people are injured.
Shouldn't be a regular starter in big games unless lots of people are injured.
To be fair the guy big does not pick the team. Most of us would not pick him but the expert did and the team paid for it. I am not against having him in the squad he is useful when used right.
Fellini has his uses over a long season. He has his limitations in creativity and pace but he also has his uses as first few games showed and even the last couple of games too.
Clearly 2 different managers who has vast experience in management winning multiple leagues and CLs kept him in the team even though they had chances to sell him and they kept playing him even though they could have very well not.
He is not the one who picks the team. If mourinho picks Fellaini, does anyone actually expect him to say 'yeah I'm not good enough I should not play'? He is good enough to be in our squad.
Clearly 2 different managers who has vast experience in management winning multiple leagues and CLs kept him in the team even though they had chances to sell him and they kept playing him even though they could have very well not.
He is not the one who picks the team. If mourinho picks Fellaini, does anyone actually expect him to say 'yeah I'm not good enough I should not play'? He is good enough to be in our squad.