I am quietly confident about this tie we have enough ammunition to trouble PSG and also Ole has shown himself to be capable of adjusting his tactics according to opponents while retaining attacking impetus to hurt them , get a positive result at home we should have enough to go through then.
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And you compare him with the one who hasn’t got a single full good season?
I didn't say Rashford is world class , I said apart from his goals return last season what does Salah have that Rashford doesn't.You went over the top by calling Salah world class based on 1 very good season.
You didn’t. But you think Rashford is almost comparable to Salah when my point was they aren’t. Different level, that’s my point is.
You are entitled to call Salah a world class or no. People have different definition of their world class. Sir Alex didn’t even think Schmeichel was a world class but I do and I’m pretty sure both me and Sir Alex can come out in conclusion that he’s on different level to Tim Howard.
Not sure about needing a two goal lead, if we draw 0-0 at home we've got a fighters chance
You still haven't said,goals aside what Salah does that is on a different level to Rashford.
I already told you he’s a world class. Rashford isn’t at this current level.
He’s a better dribbler, better in the final third decision making, better finisher, better in making key passes and through ball and he’s one of Liverpool key player of their current form right now. And he’s been doing this ever since in AS Roma 2015/2016. Never mind all of that, Rashford still hasn’t even produce the same amount of goals that Salah has produced since his Roma’s season.
So what makes you think he’s not much different level to Salah right now?
Rashford's doing all that now,dribbles ,key passes,finishing.You haven't been watching the last 8 games? let's also not forget he's 21, 5 years younger than Salah and has had to endure 2 years playing under a manager who didn't advocate playing attacking football unlike Klopp.
I'm not saying Salah isn't top class but World Class? c'mon that is Messi/Ronaldo material doing it season after season.
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This.
In theory would could win the league against the bottom 14 while getting 5 draws and 5 losses against the top 6.
Even at that I don't think we'd ever only get 5 points vs the top 6 home and away.
Ohhh so now you are using his last 8 games as your reason why he’s not much different level to Salah. But you are against me saying he’s different level to Salah because I’m using Salah’s 2 seasons in AS Roma, last season with Liverpool and this season.Rashford's doing all that now,dribbles ,key passes,finishing.You haven't been watching the last 8 games? let's also not forget he's 21, 5 years younger than Salah and has had to endure 2 years playing under a manager who didn't advocate playing attacking football unlike Klopp.
I'm not saying Salah isn't top class but World Class? c'mon that is Messi/Ronaldo material doing it season after season.
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I already told you he’s better in those aspects, not sure how can you still trying to against me by saying “he’s doing all of that now”. I never exactly say Rashford can’t do all of those have I?
Once again, you are trying make things up. No you never said Salah isn’t top class, that's not what I disagree. The point I'm trying to against is that you said Rashford is not much different level to Salah, which is you are wrong. This is also not about who's younger and who is more talented or who’s better when they are on the same age. Right now we are talking about current situation and right now Rashford's current level is different to Salah's level.
I don't care about your definition of world class but I consider Salah on the same level as Hazard, Kane, De Bruyne, they are world class. So don't start using Messi/Ronaldo, they are just different planet material and I never even mention Salah on the same material as Messi/Ronaldo.
The wording of this hypothesis should change from 'decent opposition' to 'big club' in order for it to retain its pertinence.
Moving goalpost?
That I agree with. Now I'm a bit more confident after beating Arsenal as well.
Is the definition of world class.Ohhh so now you are using his last 8 games as your reason why he’s not much different level to Salah. But you are against me saying he’s different level to Salah because I’m using Salah’s 2 seasons in AS Roma, last season with Liverpool and this season.
I already told you he’s better in those aspects, not sure how can you still trying to against me by saying “he’s doing all of that now”. I never exactly say Rashford can’t do all of those have I?
Once again, you are trying make things up. No you never said Salah isn’t top class, that's not what I disagree. The point I'm trying to against is that you said Rashford is not much different level to Salah, which is you are wrong. This is also not about who's younger and who is more talented or who’s better when they are on the same age. Right now we are talking about current situation and right now Rashford's current level is different to Salah's level.
I don't care about your definition of world class but I consider Salah on the same level as Hazard, Kane, De Bruyne, they are world class. So don't start using Messi/Ronaldo, they are just different planet material and I never even mention Salah on the same material as Messi/Ronaldo.
I just want to see us thrash Liverpool on Feb. 24th.
We wouldn’t. I should have added, in terms of my expectations, that I’d back us to get 15 points out of 15 at home against other top sides. Might not happen but that’s what I expect. Away from home, different story. Any points there are the real bonuses but on average we’d beat at least three of them at home.
Badly!!
Salah is world class, he pretty much scores a goal a game as a winger. Hard to argue he isn’t world class.Rashford's doing all that now,dribbles ,key passes,finishing.You haven't been watching the last 8 games? let's also not forget he's 21, 5 years younger than Salah and has had to endure 2 years playing under a manager who didn't advocate playing attacking football unlike Klopp.
I'm not saying Salah isn't top class but World Class? c'mon that is Messi/Ronaldo material doing it season after season.
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Salah plays upfront most of the time now doesnt he?
Maybe he is an outside forward but his stats are ridiculous either way.
Rashford is more talented than Salah.... fahct.
As if the volume of goals he's scoring is inconsequential. Give it a rest. Rashford has potential to be a great player but he is nowhere near Salah's level and Salah is definitely world class.
Guess we'll find out against PSG. My only worry is how vulnerable we have looked down wide areas. Against wingers such as Neymar and Mbappe, we could be punished if we play a diamond.
The first major Spurs chances happen before any of United major chances. So your theory about 3-0 is not valid. Spurs has one of the best finishers, he was just met with one of the best goalie and lack of support in the clinical nature of his supporting attackers like Ali and Llorente to name a few.
Possession, set piece, and total shots favored spurs or were matched among other similar stats. United may have had more shots on target, but that is one of the few aspect with regards to stats they won. Which also shows the clinical nature that ole has implemented into United recently.
We’re very much like Liverpool of last season. Because of how deadly our front 3 + pogba can be we give our self a solid chance against any team in the world. There’s not a single team that would feel as comfortable playing us as they did last year.
Sounds about right. We just need our very own Van Dijk now.
To the Koulibaly transfer thread!?
Three attackers don't make an entire squad. We have Sanchez, Lukaku and Mata as backups while Liverpool has Shaqiri, Sturridge and Origi for christ's sake!
And you also don’t take any consideration that Liverpool is also looking to upgrade one of Sturridge or Origi?
After all, they are called backup not the starting XI. The main aim will be the league and that’s where we are going to field our best XI week in week out.
You still haven’t said what makes you think Rashford current level is not much different to Salah.
Yes I did, you're a bit passionate about Liverpool aren't you.
The ones that based on 8 games? Well, how ironic.
I completely agree. I don’t understand the desperate need to consider Rashford’s potential as world class NOW. Salah is amazing, and I believe right now, he’s a much more complete player than Rash. However Rash’s ceiling is pretty much unlimited right now.
As if the volume of goals he's scoring is inconsequential. Give it a rest. Rashford has potential to be a great player but he is nowhere near Salah's level and Salah is definitely world class.
Give him a year or three, and he will have all the qualities to see him reach the Messi/Ronaldo level (holding thumbs).
He’s not desperate to consider Rashford’s potential to be world class, he’s just desperate trying to defend himself after realising that he can’t back his point.
Love Rashford, I rate him highly and I hate Liverpool but we just can’t be silly enough not to admit that Salah is a world class or basically better than Rashford at the moment.
If RAWK has a caf goes into meltdown thread this post is on the marquee. Congrats you’ve made it!
Then by your standards great players before them isn't world class?
Ronaldo and Messi is a once a generation player. Lets stick to that fact.
Salah is on that level with all the best goalscorers in football now.
Very much so. People are now saying that he can’t prove himself until he loses because the proof will be in the reaction to the loss.
By extension, a hypothetical manager that goes through a career with 300 wins, a bunch of draws and no losses will have his career reviewed by these fellas as “meh, never showed that he could bounce back from a defeat, do not want”
It's effectively going to 'Liverpool, City, Barcelona, Madrid' at the rate people keep moving the goalposts in here.
The level of negativity in this thread is too damn high.