Sassy Colin
Death or the gladioli!
I thought this was a hand full of idiots.
90,000 security personnel being deployed this weekend.
Hmm
90,000 security personnel being deployed this weekend.
Hmm
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People pee in the underground, they are nasty. The stations are cleaned everyday and they have personnel cleaning during the day too.It is not that people are nasty. It is because they don't clean often enough. Cleaning costs money.
That's nonsense, they enter and do their job.Saw this piece on TV about some riots in the Banlieus a while back, and the police actually told the reporters they couldn't go near and report since they themselves couldn't go into these areas in such situations.
What puzzles me is how a government can accept that there exist areas where the people the state employ to keep law and order can't enter to do their job.
If you arrest some, they will stop doing it. But this also needs money.People pee in the underground, they are nasty. The stations are cleaned everyday and they have personnel cleaning during the day too.
You mean the elite squads right?That's nonsense, they enter and do their job.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/31/the-other-franceA festering problem in Grigny and across other estates is the mistrust between police and young people that was at the heart of the riots in 2005 and which has not been fixed. With no neighbourhood policing, it is often elite units who swoop.
https://www.thelocal.fr/20161010/are-there-police-no-go-zones-in-france-the-police-say-yesThe sense of separation is heightened by the names of the surrounding streets and schools, preserved from a historical France that has little connection to residents’ lives. The roads around Gros Saule—a drug-ridden cité where the police dare not enter—include Rue Henri Matisse and Rue Claude Debussy.
Seem to be differing opinions on it. Hardly nonsense as you say.“Of course there are no-go zones in France where the police cannot intervene and do their jobs in safety,” Denis Jacob from the union Alternative police-CFDT told The Local. “And it’s the same for fire fighters or pretty much any representative of the state.
No, I'm talking about regular patrols. No go zones aren't a thing, you have areas where the criminality is high but there aren't no go zones.You mean the elite squads right?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...after-french-riots-banlieues-remain-in-crisis
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/31/the-other-france
https://www.thelocal.fr/20161010/are-there-police-no-go-zones-in-france-the-police-say-yes
Seem to be differing opinions on it. Hardly nonsense as you say.
So the Guardian, the Newyorker and thelocal all have reported this wrong? Or could it be that no sane government will ever accept, use or acknowledge a term as "no-go zone" since it would mean a partial failure of state and their leadership of it?No, I'm talking about regular patrols. No go zones aren't a thing, you have areas where the criminality is high but there aren't no go zones.
No it means that the guy didn't even talk about no-go-zones, that translation is sensationalist and fallacious. He talked about the fact that the police and other administration should do more than simply clean the consequences and in certain areas that's the only thing that they do, he calls these areas "zones de non droit", in that context the translation would be stateless. To explain the context, in France we used to have small police offices everywhere but around 2000s Sarkozy changed the politics because the police "wasn't around to play football with the youth", instead they centralized the police who would only patrol instead of having a grounding everywhere, that's what Jacob is talking about, he thinks that the police should go back in the middle of society and be part of it instead of intervening from time to time when something bad happens.So the Guardian, the Newyorker and thelocal all have reported this wrong? Or could it be that no sane government will ever accept, use or acknowledge a term as "no-go zone" since it would mean a partial failure of state and their leadership of it?
A good catapult is a nasty weapon, if there are many of them in use people will be killed.At 11am 481 questioned and 211 arrested - most in possession of hammers, rocks, catapults and masks.
I haven't seen a gilet jaune for a week.
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Not even Le Pen is promoting that anymore. Seems like some Russian twitter trolls put it together.Leave EU and NATO is a bit of a suspicious one.
Who else.Makes you wonder who’s behind all of this, doesn’t it?
Quite.Not even Le Pen is promoting that anymore. Seems like some Russian twitter trolls put it together.
It's a mix of Phillipot(former FN) and Mélenchon politics.Not even Le Pen is promoting that anymore. Seems like some Russian twitter trolls put it together.
Winding people up on social media, sure. Getting battered by the police, not so much.There’ll be plenty there who aren’t being duped and know exactly what they’re doing.
The trouble mongers aren’t intending to get battered though, they intend to do the battering.Winding people up on social media, sure. Getting battered by the police, not so much.
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Makes you wonder who’s behind all of this, doesn’t it?
It is the same bullshit the environmental party and most far left parties in Norway are spouting.> Cut taxes
> Hire more civil servants and provide more public services.
Yeah right, eat your cake and have it too.
From a very superficial perspective it does seem that countries managed the latter without the former though. I thought you guys had strong social welfare anyway?It is the same bullshit the environmental party and most far left parties in Norway are spouting.
"Stop all oil production and don't develop more fields on the Norwegian continental shelf...btw while we are at it, we want greater social security, less privatisation of healthcare and services and also ideally our gender studies fully financed by the state".
What puzzles me is that I never get to see these shows, about Paris, Kopenhagen, Mälmö, Berlin etc. I've heard about "no-go" areas so much in the media and from people telling me about "things they've seen", yet whenever I go to these places, puff, they disappear right before I arrive.Saw this piece on TV about some riots in the Banlieus a while back, and the police actually told the reporters they couldn't go near and report since they themselves couldn't go into these areas in such situations.
What puzzles me is how a government can accept that there exist areas where the people the state employ to keep law and order can't enter to do their job.
are you a no go zone hunter ?What puzzles me is that I never get to see these shows, about Paris, Kopenhagen, Mälmö, Berlin etc. I've heard about "no-go" areas so much in the media and from people telling me about "things they've seen", yet whenever I go to these places, puff, they disappear right before I arrive.
There are areas where white supremacists don't feel comfortable, that doesn't mean they'r no go.
Yeah, we would manage due to other natural resources. We've become oil dependant a long time ago though.From a very superficial perspective it does seem that countries managed the latter without the former though. I though ypu guys had strong social welfare anyway?
Want to see the Malmö one? Google 60 minutes Australia sweden.What puzzles me is that I never get to see these shows, about Paris, Kopenhagen, Mälmö, Berlin etc. I've heard about "no-go" areas so much in the media and from people telling me about "things they've seen", yet whenever I go to these places, puff, they disappear right before I arrive.
There are areas where white supremacists don't feel comfortable, that doesn't mean they'r no go.
Maybe unconsciously. I just don't give a feck. People live their everyday lives in what racists call "no go areas", and aside from the youths getting caught up in gangs most of them do just fine. And so do I. There's always been richer and poorer neighborhoods, read "a child of the jago" if you think it's a new phenomena caused by mass migration... it isn't. Far right media have made these "no go areas" into some cartoon Sin City completely separated from reality and their assertions say more about them psychologically than the places they asses.are you a no go zone hunter ?
Yes, it's all a bit iffy - but the public seem to be far less interested in the private lives of politicians than we are in the UK.Macron met his wife when he was a 15 year old schoolboy and she was his 40 year old school teacher who was already married with children.
This is completely off topic, I just wanted to throw it in
See that's what I mean. Why does it need Murdoch media travelling around half the world to come to the conclusion you can't enter one small patch of Sweden? If it were the case someone from the next patch of Sweden would have surely noticed?Want to see the Malmö one? Google 60 minutes Australia sweden.
Are you Swedish? Because a lot of Swedes I know certainly has noticed.See that's what I mean. Why does it need Murdoch media travelling around half the world to come to the conclusion you can't enter one small patch of Sweden? If it were the case someone from the next patch of Sweden would have surely noticed?
Noticed what? That they can't go there, or that they don't feel that the society that exists in that place reinforces the structural racism present elsewhere in Sweden and they thus feel uncomfortable without their elevated social status?Are you Swedish? Because a lot of Swedes I know certainly has noticed.