What's wrong at Manchester City?

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Manchester City have the most quality and depth for any squad in the league and this season was meant to be a cake walk. But all of a sudden, 2 consecutive defeats including a hammering vs Spurs.

Perhaps its knee jerk and too soon, but is this question worth asking? What's wrong at Manchester City?
 

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Manchester City have the most quality and depth for any squad in the league and this season was meant to be a cake walk. But all of a sudden, 2 consecutive defeats including a hammering vs Spurs.

Perhaps its knee jerk and too soon, but is this question worth asking? What's wrong at Manchester City?

IMO, there is nothing wrong a City...
 

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Nothing. It games when all goes wrong happens all the time in football.
 

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Just poor form, nothing more to it (or...too early to suggest more at this stage anyway).

European performances on the other hand, they're a problem.
 

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Knee jerk much? This was just a one off match that actually looks worse than it really was. Spurs also scored two offside goals so that actually makes them look good when they're really not.
 

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Manchester City have the most quality and depth for any squad in the league and this season was meant to be a cake walk. But all of a sudden, 2 consecutive defeats including a hammering vs Spurs.

Perhaps its knee jerk and too soon, but is this question worth asking? What's wrong at Manchester City?
No they don't, really. Their 11 is better than everyone else's.
 

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Kompany, Hart, Toure (injured during today's game), Silva all out recently. And they lack quality in terms of holding CM IMO. But not really much wrong and once those player come back they should be fine.
 

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Knee jerk much? This was just a one off match that actually looks worse than it really was. Spurs also scored two offside goals so that actually makes them look good when they're really not.
2 consecutive defeats for such a quality squad suggests there are issues.
 

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They really don't have the most depth. They don't have adequate cover for Aguero, toure or Kompany. Silva plays a massive part as well so he's really missed when he's out. But they have good cover for him with De Bruyne. Take Kompany, toure and Aguero out and suddenly they're using Bony up top and 2 from Mangala/Demichellis/Otamendi is the center back paring, with Fernandinho and Fernando as the midfielders. Obviously, that's a pretty big if having that many world class players out, but the thing is, they've all been injury prone over the last few years.
 

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Nothing, they're still (rightly) going to be favourites for the league.

It's a blip. It happens. The fact that Aguero is out of form, Silva is injured and Kompany has been out would always have an effect on them anyway.
 

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The only thing I see is that one of their star man in Aguero is in terrible form. So far, he is having the season Toure and Kompany had last season. Beside that, nothing is seriously wrong. They were just unlucky today and once they get Silva and Kompany back, and Aguero finds his form, they will look like a team no one would want to play against.
 

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They really don't have the most depth. They don't have adequate cover for Aguero, toure or Kompany. Silva plays a massive part as well so he's really missed when he's out. But they have good cover for him with De Bruyne. Take Kompany, toure and Aguero out and suddenly they're using Bony up top and 2 from Mangala/Demichellis/Otamendi is the center back paring, with Fernandinho and Fernando as the midfielders. Obviously, that's a pretty big if having that many world class players out, but the thing is, they've all been injury prone over the last few years.
I wouldn't say that's necessarily bad depth or not enough cover though. Bony is a quality striker, he's just not on the same level as Aguero but your not going to have a player of his level coming in for him just when he's injured. Likewise with Kompany- Otamendi/Mangala and even Demichellis are very good players. It's like if Smalling was injured for us, we would miss him. Jones/Rojo while being good players are a step down but are considered good depth which is right as they shouldn't be relied upon all the time.

I suppose the problem is that the spine of the squad is injury prone (i.e. Aguero/Kompany) while Toure is suspect to going missing too often. If Aguero managed to keep himself fit and firing then he would take the load of them by his goal amount, also Silva was the man making them tick when they were cruising at the start of the season, De Bruyne can fill the void left by him when injured but he's only just joined.

I don't see why they decided to sign Sterling (indicating they were going to play wingers) but then keep Navas as their main RW. He's simply not a good enough starter for a team looking to compete for titles in the Prem and CL.
 

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They have had some hard luck with injuries to be fair to them. Hart, Kompany and Silva didn't start today and they are three of their most important players, then Toure also went off injured. When they are at full strength, they are a very dangerous team. Spurs caught them on a good day.
 

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Really missing Silva at the moment, he's the cog. De Bruyne has replace him for now and has been good but their squad looks a bit shaken up now. Although it's really just a bad day.
 

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City don't have great depth at all. If Hart, Kompany, Toure and Aguero are out or off form, they are fairly average. Adding Sterling and De Bruyne means they're not as reliant on Silva for creativity as they were, but they're still no stronger in those 4 positions above.
 

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Meh, just a blip. I expect them and other big teams to start rolling on from now.
 

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City don't have great depth at all. If Hart, Kompany, Toure and Aguero are out or off form, they are fairly average. Adding Sterling and De Bruyne means they're not as reliant on Silva for creativity as they were, but they're still no stronger in those 4 positions above.
If you take the spine out of any team, they'll probably look fairly ordinary. If you take de Gea, Smalling, Schneiderlin and Martial out of the United team today, we wouldn't have played half as well as we did.
 

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Aguero has been poor this season. Let's hope it continues for our sake.

They are still favorites for the league imo.
 

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Aguero has been poor this season. Let's hope it continues for our sake.

They are still favorites for the league imo.
Yeah agree. Unfortunately I can't see him staying poor for long - class is permanent and all that.
 

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If you take the spine out of any team, they'll probably look fairly ordinary. If you take de Gea, Smalling, Schneiderlin and Martial out of the United team today, we wouldn't have played half as well as we did.
Oh yeah of course. But I think we can lose any one or even two of those and still perform. You saw today with Hart out and Aguero off colour, City are weak.
 

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City don't have great depth at all. If Hart, Kompany, Toure and Aguero are out or off form, they are fairly average. Adding Sterling and De Bruyne means they're not as reliant on Silva for creativity as they were, but they're still no stronger in those 4 positions above.
what team can lose their 4 key central players and not be average though!
 

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Oh yeah of course. But I think we can lose any one or even two of those and still perform. You saw today with Hart out and Aguero off colour, City are weak.
Hart did not play, because he was not fit and they lost Touré in the match due to an injury. That´s their whole spine.
 

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Knee-jerk. They were ridiculously unlucky to lose to West Ham.
 

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what team can lose their 4 key central players and not be average though!
Sorry I explained above that I meant if any of those are out. Not all 4 at once. Should have explained it better in the first post.
 

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what team can lose their 4 key central players and not be average though!
In that constelation (GK,CB,CM,CF)? The three giants, who are all far above anything that plays in the EPL at the moment...
 

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A bit knee jerk, but hopefully it puts off the idea that Man City will run away with the league.
 

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A bit knee jerk, but hopefully it puts off the idea that Man City will run away with the league.
A bit? If they convert any of their half a dozen 100% chances vs. WHU nobody would say anything right now and talk about one off game with a score line, which is highly deceiving and rooted in two vital irregular goals by the Spurs.

They are simply really unlucky at the moment, both in terms of injuries and on the pitch.
 

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Nothing really, IMO. Nobody wins every game.
 

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Just a simple case of a bad spell. Can happen to any team. Their quality is too good for any sort of crisis.
 

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They are not as good as the early season hype was suggesting. Squad depth is not what it should be so when the likes of Kompany, Silva et al are out they are a pretty ordinary side. Throw in a misfiring Aguero and a half arsed Toure and the result is, voila, shipping 4 at Spurs.
 

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When Aguero is off form their goal threat is severely blunted.
Were in 2015 and still talking about keeping Silva / Toure / Aguero / Kompany fit.
 

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Injuries are killing them. But for me their biggest problem is in Midfield. Fernandinho and Toure are very poor under pressure. They go to pieces when pressed.
 

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Nothing they are just having a bad couple of weeks at the office.
 

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They were a bit unlucky today actually and had lots of chances against West Ham. Next two games in the league are at home to Newcastle and Bournemouth; I'd expect them to get back on track soon.