Coops73
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Just watched the Dan Burn challenge on Neves and not a booking or anything and it’s not even looked at by VAR, surely we must challenge the sending off for Casemiro.
is this not a 'what if' scenario?! Given that you've written 'We were far from creating any genuine chance throughout the 90. These are facts' then I question whether YOU were actually watching the game? Were you in the loo when Bruno had a shot tipped onto the post? Or when Rashford broke through and was arguably brought down by the keeper?All "what if" scenarios and nothing based on facts. Southampton looked more threatening and were likely to score, we were a man down with no genuine defensive midfielders on the pitch and a knackered backline. We were far from creating any genuine chance throughout the 90. These are facts.
All it takes is one worldie of a FK from JWP which he is more than capable to do consistently.
I remember so many games like this during the fergie error. Down to 10 men and we would still have the opponents pinned in their own half all game. This current team is a season or 2 away from that level.We should still be able to beat Southampton at home. Even with 10. At least that just my feeling.
It was not a clear red. We have examples from this weekend’s fixture where a tackle like this was not red carded. The referee gave a yellow card. Why is the Var getting involved when its not clear and obvious?It was a clear red. Denying that is just plain stupid. The handball rule nobody gets, not sure if that's a penalty anymore.
The ref didn't make us lose this match
I love the way you always get a little sly dig in at United in a lot of your posts. It’s quite admirableUtd were still favourites at half time, albeit not by much. 4/5 I think. I fully expected you to go on and win it. It’s not uncommon for a CL team at home to a bottom club to still win with ten men.
Not my intention, I nearly lost money! I was just responding to the poster.I love the way you always get a little sly dig in at United in a lot of your posts. It’s quite admirable
The second paragraph was to show that similar argument that you're can be made for Southampton.is this not a 'what if' scenario?! Given that you've written 'We were far from creating any genuine chance throughout the 90. These are facts' then I question whether YOU were actually watching the game? Were you in the loo when Bruno had a shot tipped onto the post? Or when Rashford broke through and was arguably brought down by the keeper?
Yes, but first when top 4 is secured so they can ban him when it doesnt matterTen Hag should make a statement like Fergie used to do. Otherwise this is never gonna change. It's absurd at this point.
I wasn't the one stating 'Southampton didn't create any genuine chance during the 90' was I? I stated that it was pretty end to end and I would back our forward players to find a moment of magic. You said it was a FACT that United didn't create a single genuine chance through the 90 mins - which was bullshit wasn't it?The second paragraph was to show that similar argument that you're can be made for Southampton.
And yes, I did watch the game and the Bruno shot from outside the box. I have watched the GK tipping Rashford chance and it seems more that he tipped himself.
Southampton had better chances of scoring, hitting a couple of posts and an almost OG clearance from Awb. Were you at the loo then?
And that spitting utter feckpig Carragher doesn’t think there is anything wrong with it.Just watched the Dan Burn challenge on Neves and not a booking or anything and it’s not even looked at by VAR, surely we must challenge the sending off for Casemiro.
No it wasn't, but feel free to believe that.I wasn't the one stating 'Southampton didn't create any genuine chance during the 90' was I? I stated that it was pretty end to end and I would back our forward players to find a moment of magic. You said it was a FACT that United didn't create a single genuine chance through the 90 mins - which was bullshit wasn't it?
So you don't think Bruno's shot, which was finger-tipped onto the inside of the post was a chance?No it wasn't, but feel free to believe that.
It’s this…sadly across all sports reffing has become dreadful. It’s not just football. I honestly think it’s got a lot to do with replay. It gets into the heads of the refs and dictates many decisions.It's not corruption, just incompetence
I don’t mind Ipswich so will let you offI love the way you always get a little sly dig in at United in a lot of your posts. It’s quite admirable
And if that's the case they shouldn't overturned by VAR as VAR is only meant for clear and obvious mistakes.Normally I would agree with not going all in with unwarranted conspiracy theories, but this current batch of refs need to be called out.
The last 2 reds, which completely changed the course of the games and cost us points, have been very debatable.
It's not just the Liverpool-dominated media.It isn't corruption. It isn't strictly incompetence, either, I think--at least not in the sense of them not knowing the rules of football or whatever. It's simply ABU influencing referees, pressuring them, launching witch hunts anytime they give us anything. It's the fact that a referee knows in the back of his mind that if he gives United anything, he gets hounded down in the media; but if he robs us, there are no consequences. They're subconsciously afraid of becoming the target of the heavily Liverpool-dominated football media in England, and they know deep down that if they give us anything at all, they will be. That makes them over-scrutinize everything United's players do, and it makes them interpret the actions of our opponents through a lens of leniency.
How do clubs officially complain about the standard of the refereeing in the game?. And why can't we bring referees in from abroad to keep the standards high?. We bring overseas players in so why not referees too?Qatari owners will have a no nonsense approach to this.
bingoAnd if that's the case they shouldn't overturned by VAR as VAR is only meant for clear and obvious mistakes.
If it was incompetence people like Taylor would have been sacked for incompetence by now. At this point its either willful negligence or corruption. And when you look at it from any actual reasonable conclusion point of view its almost definitely the latter. I don't know why the idea the officiating can be or is corrupt is always seen as irrational given the frankly ridiculous amount of evidence that's in plain sight.It's not corruption, just incompetence
AgreedAnd if that's the case they shouldn't overturned by VAR as VAR is only meant for clear and obvious mistakes.
It's just that most of the "ineptitude" has fallen on us and cost us the most this seasonThere's no conspiracy against us. Chelsea were fecked over yesterday with a red card that should've been given and wasn't. Wolves have just been fecked over today with a penalty (and red card?) that should've been given and wasn't.
It's ineptitude, not corruption.
It's more infuriating when other fans seem to think the FA and PGMOL are favouring of Utd when they clearly aren't!Must admit to getting a little tired of hearing football fans whinge about refereeing decisions. Every single club is singled out and victimised according to their own fans and its boring.
That's just another aspect of it, though. In order for Gary Neville to become accepted as a pundit, he had to become fiercely anti-United. It was the only way. ABU is so pervasive that if you're associated with the club, you're up against so much opposition by default that the only way to "clean" your image in their eyes is to turn around and hate on United at every opportunity.It's not just the Liverpool-dominated media.
The ex-United players like Gary Neville don't help either. Most of them call out decisions that fall for us, but don't do the same for those that go against us, for the sake of appearing 'neutral' on TV. They don't realise they are hurting our team with this behaviour. People like Souness don't give an eff about neutral.
It's well annoying.
I would have been shocked it was being reviewed and thought it was nonsense actually so don't assume something so stupid.Casemiro red was correct decision. Had that been Lavia or JWP on one of our players we'd all have said red card.
The penalty decision was wrong though. You have to give that. It's so blatant and he gains an unfair advantage by doing it.
So a mixed day for the officials. Don't think we played very well though with 11 men or 10. Far too many sloppy passes and poor touches.
Top 4 is going down to the wire.
Most of it has fallen on Utd, or just that you remember the decisions that go against Utd? I come away from Ipswich matches thinking why do we always get bad decisions, but I know logically that it must happen everywhere and I simply don’t see it and remember it in the same way.It's just that most of the "ineptitude" has fallen on us and cost us the most this season