There’s always a weird selection and formation thrown in and they over think it. If I was a city fan I’d actually be gutted because this lad is the best manager they are going to have and how long more is he going to stay there realistically?He'll get there eventually. Just needs to figure out who else he can take out to stick another winger or attacking CM on the pitch.
He has a terrible CL knock out record when you factor in he always has the best squad, bottomless depth and favorable draws.For all the abuse ole gets i think pep has got this one with his over tinkering and trying to be cocky.
Expect abu dhabi to give a blank cheque to pep now.
Ole did not pick his best available team, neither was it balanced. Then refused to make any changes when it was obvious the game was slipping away from us inviting Villareal back in to it. Sorry but in my eyes Ole massively cocked up.Can't agree with this, Ole at least selected his best available team, well balanced, whereas Pep set his team up to fail, subs were wrong or too late.
Neither were great, but at least Ole got one decision right.
Ole did not. Rashford didn't deserve to start the game based on his form. And I can't remember the last game Pogba looked really good in CM. Plus Ole made the bigger mistakes during the game. And he played a very very average Villarreal team. So it's Ole for me too. Pep fecked up massively as well though but he faced a much better team and much better managerCan't agree with this, Ole at least selected his best available team, well balanced, whereas Pep set his team up to fail, subs were wrong or too late.
Neither were great, but at least Ole got one decision right.
Thing is, the way Villareal played is the antidote to Ole, just as the way Ole and Tuchel play is the antidote to Pep.Ole the more I think about it. Pep overthinked as he often does, Ole underthinked as he often does.
Pep faced a more competitive opponent, whereas we could have beaten Villarreal easily if Ole wasn’t biased and scared of substituting his so-called, largely unwarranted, star players. But Pep also sacrificed Fernandinho (a known winner) and a previously effective, cohesive set-up for Sterling (a known bottler).
because Pep started a midfield three that (from my memory) had barely started together before as the midfield three? I’m sure they have, but honestly, that midfield was completely lacking a defensive player and it stood out a mile as soon as the team was announced. Pep completely fecked it.Ole. Not sure why this is a thread.
It’s true, but based on his actions during the game, Ole really didn’t even try to win that game.Thing is, the way Villareal played is the antidote to Ole, just as the way Ole and Tuchel play is the antidote to Pep.
I think Fred took a knock and couldn't start? He did put out the best team unless you tell me VDB or James deserve to start over Rashford.Ole did not. Rashford didn't deserve to start the game based on his form. And I can't remember the last game Pogba looked really good in CM. Plus Ole made the bigger mistakes during the game. And he played a very very average Villarreal team. So it's Ole for me too. Pep fecked up massively as well though but he faced a much better team and much better manager
Are you joking? Even being a massive fanboy aside everyone saw how Pep butchered the first half. Starts an out of form Sterling, plays the teams top goalscorer and probably player of the season in a position he has barely played this year and leaves gaping holes in midfield for Chelsea to be exploited. If it weren't for Werner being useless Chelsea could've been 2/3-0 up at half time.I don't think Pep fecked up. This is a very good Chelsea team and in the end, they were a bit more lucky. City had many dangerous situations and Chelsea many clearances/blocks in the very last moment. Not always somebody has to feck up. Small margins in football beteeen losing and winning.
Yeah. He made some bizarre choices. It almost seemed like he had to much trust in his first eleven and when it got to extra time they were gassed and there was no plan.It’s true, but based on his actions during the game, Ole really didn’t even try to win that game.
No, he wouldn't. But he would probably lose (again) to United.Don't think Pep would have lost to Villareal though, no offense
Don't see Pep's City falling as low as Europa League, so I don't know when that would happenNo, he wouldn't. But he would probably lose (again) to United.
Why would that be relevant?Don't see Pep's City falling as low as Europa League, so I don't know when that would happen
They both "fecked up". Just goes to show that winning a european cup is hard. Apart from Zidane and Emery, very few managers win it more than once or twice.So Pep fecking up makes Ole look better by comparison? Glad we got that out of the way. In absolute terms though, Ole fecked up massively, that too in his first major European final.
The disappointment wasn’t even 1% of what it was in 2009 and 2011. UCL is the biggest prize of them all. While Europa is meh to be honest. Would’ve been nice to win but nothing more. Similar to a League Cup.I hope you did on Wednesday as a United fan, especially as it was our only chance for a trophy? Or is it just because Ole massively fecked up that it's completely irrelevant now?
Umm no they weren't, Chelsea to lift the trophy were only 2/1. Going by win within 90 minutes isn't the best way to follow cup finals with bookies. Even then, Chelsea were never 7/2 to win within 90 mins do tell me what betting agency you were with?They were huge favourites, less than even money. Chelsea were 7/2.
Yes there is, it’s called “football eh”This.
Even if Pep picked the right team and deployed the appropriate tactics, its feasible they still might have lost against this Chelsea team.
There was no excuse for us to lose against a mid tabled Villareal with the players we had.
It's relevant because Manchester United weren't in the CL final, but the EL final.Why would that be relevant?
In a game that matters? Probably not. They dumped us out of the league cup quite easily.No, he wouldn't. But he would probably lose (again) to United.
That's false though. Regardless of competition, City would flat track Villareal while struggle and probably lose against United. It's not like teams change character dependent of which competition they play.It's relevant because Manchester United weren't in the CL final, but the EL final.
It is kind of cute that you guys don't realize quite how pathetic a thread like this is.
What's false?That's false though. Regardless of competition, City would flat track Villareal while struggle or probably lose against United.
Meh. I was disappointed. It hurt. But I was soon over it. Right now it's like it never happened. Losing the CL final or losing the league on the last day that shit fecking hurted for days.I hope you did on Wednesday as a United fan, especially as it was our only chance for a trophy? Or is it just because Ole massively fecked up that it's completely irrelevant now?
Not as Pathetic as Bayern hoovering up all the German talent in a one team league.It's relevant because Manchester United weren't in the CL final, but the EL final.
It is kind of cute that you guys don't realize quite how pathetic a thread like this is.
