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Thinking we should rely on Greenwood shows why a lot on here are clueless. We've needed a RW for near enough a decade, its no wonder we're intent on sorting it out.
Tbh I can't even remember who was our last proper RW. Was it Valencia ?Because... we just don't have a right winger.
That takes precedent over any other which we already have, so less priority.
Once and for all, get Sancho and done, solved, finally we have an actual right winger for a freaking change!
And, tbf, Rooney came into a team that was being slowly pieced together.Sancho is a generational talent.
It's a bit like asking why we spent so much on Rooney in '04 when we had other issues in the team. Sometimes it just has to be done or you'll regret it in a few years.
I can't fully remember 04 as I was a teenager back then but I'm fairly sure it was well known that we were in "transition" and spending £30m on a teenager wasn't going to solve our problems, but Rooney was such a mega talent that nobody seemed to care. Maybe it's because £108m is such a monstrous fee compared to £30m (despite probably being the equivalent now) that people are questioning this.And, tbf, Rooney came into a team that was being slowly pieced together.
I get what you're saying. I think if we brought in Sancho and solved one other problem area we would be moving in the right direction. Has to be a top notch addition though.
None of have that answer, Sancho may improve the team drastically, or just solve 1 issue and the other issues will become more apparent.Do we need to blow our entire budget on it though?
Spot on.How much energy are we spending?
An elite RW in Sancho is available in the market and we are trying to buy him. But is there any elite DM available to buy? I don't think so.Aren't we capable of discussing deals with multiple players at the same time? We absolutely need a quality RW and DM for the next season, I can't see why we couldn't work on these deals simultaneously.
Nani and CR7 could operate on either flank but they didn’t roam around as central playmakers. They preferred to operate in wider areas and only left flank to score goals in the box.So did CR and Nani. We just need someone who is comfortable playing on the right hand side 60% of the time, can cross from the RHS, and occasionally cut inside to shoot with his left foot. Swapping places with left winger is normal practise, Giggs played on the RHS sometime. Problem with Sanchez was that I thought he did play on the right before, and I hope Mourinho had instructed him to start on the right, but never happen. It end up with traffic jam on the left with Pogba, Rashford, or Martial on the left hand side.
I’m sure there was also something around the fact Rooney was on the verge of signing for Newcastle, if this hadn’t been the case would we actually have gone for him that season? I’m not sure there is genuine interest from other clubs with the ability to sign Sancho to force our hand.I can't fully remember 04 as I was a teenager back then but I'm fairly sure it was well known that we were in "transition" and spending £30m on a teenager wasn't going to solve our problems, but Rooney was such a mega talent that nobody seemed to care. Maybe it's because £108m is such a monstrous fee compared to £30m (despite probably being the equivalent now) that people are questioning this.
True, we do not have a good defence, we dont have one of the best midfield, and we do not have one of the most exciting forward lineup.Sancho is the cherry on the cake but you need cake! which we dont have.
That's not really the case since Woodward took over. Apart from James we didn't have a single signing that came out of the blue.Since we don't really have any clue what the club are up to behind the scenes, how about waiting until the end of the window before casting judgement? Just a thought
Whilst you're right, the end of the window is about a month or so into next season, if I'm not mistaken. It's not really ideal. Although I'd rather sign him a month into the season than not at all.Since we don't really have any clue what the club are up to behind the scenes, how about waiting until the end of the window before casting judgement? Just a thought
Lukaku did.That's not really the case since Woodward took over. Apart from James we didn't have a single signing that came out of the blue.
This. For Salah, insert Sancho. Could easily have the same impact, even if not number of individual goals.No it didn’t. Liverpool got 78 goals in the season before VVD when they scraped in 4th with 76 points, they only scored 85 in winning the league with 99 points. And the main reason they scored more was signing Salah, not VVD.
Simple as, really.We conceded 3 more goals than Liverpool and 1 more than City in the league. We scored 19 fewer goals than Liverpool and 36 fewer than City. The points gap to Liverpool was 33 points whilst it was 15 to City. We need more goals over the season to win the league.
We need quite a bit to be fair. I would say RW, DM and LB are priority, with CB and GK potentially as well right behind. Gk can be solved internally, but the other positions need to be bought. But since we can only work one transfer at a time and need 2 months to cough up the 120m, while spending that time trying to reduce the price for 10 or 20m (that won't work anyway), we will have no time left to buy another one or two players.Quality strength in depth is as important if not more important then signing Sancho. Our reserves are basically crap and we are forced to run the first team to the ground.
The emergence of Greenwood should put things into a certain perspective. I wonder if we need a Lb more then a RW. Shaw is a crock and Williams is cack.
I fully agree.We need quite a bit to be fair. I would say RW, DM and LB are priority, with CB and GK potentially as well right behind. Gk can be solved internally, but the other positions need to be bought. But since we can only work one transfer at a time and need 2 months to cough up the 120m, while spending that time trying to reduce the price for 10 or 20m (that won't work anyway), we will have no time left to buy another one or two players.
Signing a young close to world class RW is needed. Just as much as improving the squad depth. But we are slow as feck and never seem to resolve something in one window and always need a couple of transfer windows, until other gaps appear.
Nah, this would be a better description of Grealish. Sancho is a key ingredient to bake the actual cake.Sancho is the cherry on the cake but you need cake! which we dont have.
Those are two players who moved because their strengths meant they thrived in a different position to where they started out. But it would be a remarkable misreading of Greenwood’s strengths to play him in any position that kept him away from goal. His eye for goal is without doubt his biggest strength. Long term, playing him RW simply means asking him to do less of what he’s best at, and more of what he isnt. Like most modern attackers he‘s flexible, so he can probably do a job anywhere on the front line, but in sight of the goal is absolutely where he should be long term.I apologise for not answering individually but I was swamped by replies and I don't think its fair on you guys for me to keep repeating the same post again and again. It also tend to piss off mods as well.
Greenwood is a striker
Well Scholes was once a very prolific striker and Pirlo was also a forward. Who gives a feck about that? If Greenwood keep performing the way he's doing on the flanks then I'll be one hell of a happy bunny if he is kept on the flanks. The reality is this. We've got an exceptional player whose performing wonders on the right flank. If we buy a WC winger then the guy would end up having to compete with this guy AND Martial. That doesn't mean we shouldn't buy a WC winger. However let's take that in consideration.
Pirlo yes, Scholes no. He would have been a top top striker as shown when he covered the role during Cantona's absence.Those are two players who moved because their strengths meant they thrived in a different position to where they started out. But it would be a remarkable misreading of Greenwood’s strengths to play him in any position that kept him away from goal. His eye for goal is without doubt his biggest strength. Long term, playing him RW simply means asking him to do less of what he’s best at, and more of what he isnt. Like most modern attackers he‘s flexible, so he can probably do a job anywhere on the front line, but in sight of the goal is absolutely where he should be long term.
Just because Scholes was a decent striker doesn't mean he wasn't better in midfield. In the same way, just because Greenwood is good on the wing, doesn't mean he won't be better up front.Pirlo yes, Scholes no. He would have been a top top striker as shown when he covered the role during Cantona's absence.
According to whoscored Greenwood had scored 11 goals in 15 games as RW. That's fine for me.