OnlyTwoDaSilvas
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He was pretty good in the 1st 20 minutes, and then horrendous thereafter, which often seems to be the case with him. Total lottery of a player.
He doesn't know how to defend.He was pretty good in the 1st 20 minutes, and then horrendous thereafter, which often seems to be the case with him. Total lottery of a player.
Funny they when he expert fans kept telling us he would allow Pogba to play lol.He doesn't know how to defend.
Same here to be honest.Funny they when he expert fans kept telling us he would allow Pogba to play lol.
Not going to pretend I knew anything about him.
He worked hard to make tackles today though and its Matic's job to protect the defense.He doesn't know how to defend.
His work rate does him credit, it's his lack of basic defensive knowledge that is holding him back.He worked hard to make tackles today though and its Matic's job to protect the defense.
Fred had more touches, more touches, and more than double anyone else in tackles in the first half.
Maybe he ran out of energy
This. We basically needed Kante. Which is Herrara a level up.He’s far too raw for my liking. We’re not signing the right players, we needed a midfielder who improved on Herrera and actually bring us up a level. Fred isn’t good enough.
Hopefully because they can play together, working hard to win the ball and giving Pogba freedomSeeing Herrera come on and instantly be a better player made me wonder why we bothered. Would have been better off buying a pure DM to take over from Matic.
Still, he deserves more time.
He is used to play for a Shakhtar team that defends way higher up the pitch than we are even close to do. And a team that defends by pressing. He is an aggressive player who is not suited for a defensive setup as ours under Mourinho.Same here to be honest.
Still, you expect a player that costs £50 million quid to at least be mildly competent defensively. Fred has no idea, even his basic positioning is miles off Premier League quality.
We're supposed to have one of the worlds best scouting systems, you'd think they might have noticed this side of his game.
That's harsh on Fred. He's played maybe 3 matches since being shut out for weeks prior. He takes chances most of our players don't and does not always play the safe pass and then we rely on Matic to cover. I'd rather see Herrera replace Matic than Fred. Matic slows us down too much.PPoor today. Herrera needs to tak his spot going forward.
He is used to play for a Shakhtar team that defends way higher up the pitch than we are even close to do. And a team that defends by pressing. He is an aggressive player who is not suited for a defensive setup as ours under Mourinho.
We saw it with Sanchez and its the same with Fred; they look completely confused when we lose the ball and their first instinct is to press and win the ball back. While the rest of our team are running back towards our own goal to "cover spaces". It does make them both look a ltb like headless chickens when they are actually applying another quite relevant type of defending. If the rest of the team does not it looks like this though.
We will see if Mourinho can re-educate Fred. Another idea would of course be to remove Mourinho, but tbh I do not see that happening anytime soon.
I wrote this a bit tongue in cheek, but Fred needs time. I refer to my earlier posts in this thread regarding this.
The expectations on him was way to high to begin with.
My main worries regarding Fred has always been that he was not proven at any major scene of football except for some CL-games were both he and Shakhtar did well. His games for Brazil were not the most competetive ones and also a bit earlier in his career.I didn't get to see him play for Shakhtar so I'll have to take your word for it. Makes you wonder why Jose chose to buy him in the first place.
Fred deserves time to adapt, absolutely, but I just don't see him ever realising his true potential under Jose's leadership and guidance, which is frankly the case for many of our first team squad.
Agree 100%. Looks mobile, can switch the play either side of him. Seems to have a good engine. Needs to cut that play acting s*it out though.I like him. Mobile and positive. Thought he was decent today. A hell of a lot better than Matic anyway
Agree. The lads just arrived and played only a few games. Stating the obvious but I think it's easier to look 'better' when you are finding your feet in a good team than one that's struggling.I like him. Mobile and positive. Thought he was decent today. A hell of a lot better than Matic anyway
Spot on...Just be grateful we didn't buy keita and fabinho instead