Why do we get battered so often?

[PoTMS]

We've replaced Arsenal in the big team that gets battered 3 or 4 times every season.

 

[Tyrion]

We've replaced Arsenal in the big team that gets battered 3 or 4 times every season.

Any numbers to back that up?

 

[Skills]

We don't have enough bite going forward to scare anyone to take us on

 

[cyberman]

We've replaced Arsenal in the big team that gets battered 3 or 4 times every season.

Every team bar Liverpool and City get battered? We’re comfortably third for a reason

 

[Idxomer]

Because we still think a midfield 2 can work in modern football with players who are weak on the ball.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Bad management and mentality over the years. It will take time to weed out

 

[Lord Zlatan]

got to bed ffs. last thing we need is a thread like this right now

 

[Zen]

Because we're still everyones biggest rival.... and not overly talented. Simple.

 

[PoTMS]

Any numbers to back that up?

From memory, we've got beaten 6-3 v City, 4-0 v Brentford, 5-0 v Liverpool this season. Last season we got beat 3-0 v City twice, 4-0 v Liverpool, 5-0 v Liverpool, 4-0 v Brighton.

 

[horsechoker]

We've at least stopped losing to most of the average dross but we're not at City's level. I won't say Arsenal because I don't think they're at that elite level of managing title challenges season after season and going deep in the champions league.

I think van Gaal might be the only manager who bucked the trend.

 

[Tyrion]

Every team bar Liverpool and City get battered? We’re comfortably third for a reason

Liverpool lost 5-2 to Madrid and 3-0 to Wolves and Brighton (and Napoli I think) so even they get hammered. Some of our fans (the OP, not you) only watch us so they don't remember anyone else's results.

 

[Tyrion]

From memory, we've got beaten 6-3 v City, 4-0 v Brentford, 5-0 v Liverpool this season. Last season we got beat 3-0 v City twice, 4-0 v Liverpool, 5-0 v Liverpool, 4-0 v Brighton.

The first two were in the first few games of a new manager with Maguire and Ronaldo starting for one and the second was with Ole and Ragnick.

 

[Shane88]

Any numbers to back that up?

Liverpool 4-0
City 6-3
City 4-1
Brentford 4-0
Spurs 6-1
Liverpool 5-0, twice (could be six or seven yet, lets see).
Brighton 4-0
City 4-1
Watford 4-1

Enough numbers?

 

[Tyrion]

Liverpool 4-0
City 6-3
City 4-1
Brentford 4-0
Spurs 6-1
Liverpool 5-0, twice (could be six or seven yet, lets see).
Brighton 4-0
City 4-1
Watford 4-1

Enough numbers?

Wasn't the 6-1 vs Spurs when Mourinho was manager? If you're going that far back, Liverpool lost by 7 to Villa.

 

[Shark]

Wasn't the 6-1 vs Spurs when Mourinho was manager? If you're going that far back, Liverpool lost by 7 to Villa.

It was under Ole.

 

[lsd]

Wow just saw it's five I don't know it's weird I guess when you just start like we did today and do absolutely nothing to address it then yeah you get a battering.

 

[DWelbz19]

Bunch of posers. Soon as we get close to being “in the title race” or go down in a big game we hyperventilate on the pitch and get battered

 

[lsd]

Bunch of posers. Soon as we get close to being “in the title race” or go down in a big game we hyperventilate on the pitch and get battered

We were never in the title race ludicrous to even think we were

 

[UnitedWA]

This is a fckin disgrace, I'd rather give carabao crap to erase this pathetic game. We just saved that yellowteeth kraut and his job, and gave them top 4 chance.

 

[Tyrion]

It was under Ole.

I mean when he managed Spurs. If you go back 2 or 3 years, every team gets hammered. In the last month or two, Liverpool conceded 5 against Madrid and lost 3-0 to Brighton and Wolves.

 

[SER19]

We quit today

That's the most concerning thing. Im ashamed to support the team today

 

[DWelbz19]

We were never in the title race ludicrous to even think we were

I know. But whenever we get numerically very close to the top we suddenly start to crumble

 

[lsd]

7 yet?

 

[VanHaal'sRedArmy]

Liverpool at Anfield is our kyrptonite. Mentality dwarfs.

 

[PoTMS]

7-0. That's a new one.

 

[Judas]

One too many rotten apples who are mentality fragile. As soon as it’s not going their way they totally lose their heads.

 

[SAFMUTD]

Every team bar Liverpool and City get battered? We’re comfortably third for a reason

Not like this. We get humiliated very often. It's 3 humiliations in the last 4 matches against Liverpool.

I'm speechless, something broke in me today.

 

[PoTMS]

Every team bar Liverpool and City get battered? We’re comfortably third for a reason

Which big teams have got battered as often as us in the last 3-4 years?

 

[Pughnichi]

In recent times, put simply…we haven’t been good enough. Under previous managers we’ve had to put up with Maguire Lindelof partnership behind McFred and Matic.

Comparative to recent changes Varane, Martinez, Casemiro, Eriksen it’s night and day

today feels more of an anomaly with exhaustion playing a factor. Bruno could barely even stand up at the end of the West Ham game.

 

[SirAnderson]

Take time off from making threads mate.

 

[FootballHQ]

Been some conceding on the road this season for you guys.

Apocalypse today.

6 at Emptihad.

4 at Brentford

3 at Villa Park and Emirates.

Not challenging for title anytime soon if you're conceding 30 goals in away fixtures over a season. Arsenal have conceded 9 away goals albeit they still have to visit Liverpool and Man. City.

 

[predator]

Give me the position we are in now even getting dicked 7nil at anfield than not competing for cups and putting in a title challenge. Annoying as it was, it was a freak result and these things happen.

 

[cyberman]

Not like this. We get humiliated very often. It's 3 humiliations in the last 4 matches against Liverpool.

I'm speechless, something broke in me today.

Last season buffs it up a bit I do admit.
City was a little bit circumstance, new team adapting to new tactics and not having a game for like 4 weeks beforehand took us out of our rhythm. I just can’t explain this. We aren’t even a sketchy side, we have proven to be resourceful and defensively sound.
This is simply ridiculous, doesn’t feel real

 

[Offside]

Teams raise their game against us so when we’re genuinely shit compared to what we used to be we get double done.

 

[Fooza]

We still aren't at the days under Fergie in terms of mentality

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

Not like this. We get humiliated very often. It's 3 humiliations in the last 4 matches against Liverpool.

I'm speechless, something broke in me today.

It's 4 in the last 5 really

2-4
0-5
0-4
2-1
0-7.

 

[Ole'sattheWheel]

Team has PTSD. When they shit the bed they really go for it with no half measures

 

[Nick7]

Been some conceding on the road this season for you guys.

Apocalypse today.

6 at Emptihad.

4 at Brentford

3 at Villa Park and Emirates.

Not challenging for title anytime soon if you're conceding 30 goals in away fixtures over a season. Arsenal have conceded 9 away goals albeit they still have to visit Liverpool and Man. City.

Utterly bizarre that people actually bought into the title fight thing in the first place

 

[Dominos]

I know. But whenever we get numerically very close to the top we suddenly start to crumble

What? We were 14 points behind the leaders going into today, in what world is that "close"?

The non-existent title race had nothing to do with today. We're just a very overrated side at the minute with players who have a terrible habit of giving up when a game is lost.

 

[DWelbz19]

What? We were 14 points behind the leaders going into today, in what world is that "close"?

The non-existent title race had nothing to do with today. We're just a very overrated side at the minute with players who have a terrible habit of giving up when a game is lost.

I didn’t fecking mean today, pal. I meant in general over the past few seasons.