I can only seem to find stats for the CL and even then, I can only found this year's CL ones. However, looking at the numbers, I doubt we ran more last year. Adjusted to 90 minutes, some of the numbers are really impressive. For example RVP, the supposedly not arsed RVP, ran 41544 metres in 324 minutes. That is roughly 11.54 kilometres every 90 minutes. I'd love it if someone has PL stats and perhaps stats from last year.
Well said.
An interim dream team coaching staff of becks, scholesy, gazza and phizza with giggs as manager? Though we'd probably lose all our remaining games this season....
This.
Seedorf is in freefall at Milan though; Italian papers say that Berlusconi has already "cooled on him" and he might be sacked soon so not the best example.
What a silly post, if we were able to name you a manager, would that have any bearing whatsoever on Giggs?
what's silly?
I don't belive firstly that many wanted Keane as manager, but it's moot.
Probably, just as the notions of "Giggs will make a great managers because he plays for United till he's 40, highly decorated, and well respected" holds no meritsI don't belive firstly that many wanted Keane as manager, but it's moot.
WHy is it silly? I'll explain it simply, take 10 players, if 9 of them fail as a football manager, does that have any bearing on the last player? Not in the slightest. So, your reasoning of "No ex-Utd player has been a top coach, therefore GIggs won't", has about as much merit to it as saying 9 people tried to do X, but I won't bother because they failed...
Seedorf isn't an interim manager, he's permanent and is doing a pretty awful job. Fans were protesting the other day so not sure whether he's improved anything really.
Not sure how it would end badly like Shearer... we're not fighting for relegation, in fact, we're not fighting for anything... so I don't really see what Giggs could do that would be anything like Shearer at Newcastle.
You could equally say, why are you fabricating something that nobody - or very, very few people have said, just to make a point?!
Precisely, but starting with someone who has spent a lot of time working closely with SAF (That also includes Scholes FWIW), then surely he has a better basis from which to build on? I think a lot of it has to do with personality, I am not sure Giggs would be a successful choice, I was just pointing out the idiocy of claiming that because we don't as of yet have an ex-united player become a top coach, that it would somehow play a part in Giggs career, but I think you realised that. FWIW, Giggs wouldn't be on my list, if it was "ex-Utd Players", I'd be struck between Laurent Blanc/OGS
You're right, you could do. But the point still stands and I'll word it another way to make you happy.
No Jay, I don't mean to discredit Giggs. We all love him.
It's because Round and Phil Neville are Moyes' people, Moyes brought them to the club even if Phil Neville had been a great servant to United. They are part of Moyes' reign while Giggs is a remnant of the previous era even if he was only a player up until this season.
Ah, that's a fair point then.
yes... if we go out of europe tonight with a 5-0 hammering and moyes simply has to go as his position becomes untenable then giggs is the perfect person to step in till the end of the season as its not as if he can loose anything - if we suddenly see a dramatic turn around in form and we win most of our remaining games in spectacular style then he becomes a serious contender for the full time position.
It is suprising/disappointing that there never seems to be many internal promotions to managerial level within clubs. You would expect to see this in the lower leagues especially. Too many ex-footballers walking into managerial positions when coaches should be given the chance.
Or a general lack of tactics altogether...
I like Phil Neville and wouldn't want him to follow Moyes out of the door. He's one of ours. Besides, even though he's on the coaching staff, I wouldn't have thought that he's in a position to influence anything Moyes does.
My brain hurts every time someone uses this word.
How do we know Giggs wouldn't be tactically good enough then? I used the example of Pep being so good tactically.
We don't know, he might be Tsun Tsu reincarnated, I might be Einstein if give the chance to work with NASA.
How can you mention Pep then say 'do you take chances like that and just "hoping he cuts it" again'? Pep, whether he had a vision or not, having very little experience was a big risk for Barca and it paid off. Without trying, it is impossible to judge how good a manager could be. That said, he didn't inherited a bad team, did he?
No dude, you don't understand.
So frequently used that the vast majority of my life I thought it was a real word.
Bold point 1 - Lets be honest, managing Barca's youth team and 1st team are two different kettle of fish. Bigger ego's, more pressure, etc.
My one worry in such a scenario is that if he does well, it would be very tempting to give him the job permanently. Which shouldn't be on.
Could be? Give him a few years as youth coach, and see what happens.
