MrPooni
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He's definitely wired.What an imbecile, I mean why would you record that.Side effects of some bad powder there.
He's definitely wired.What an imbecile, I mean why would you record that.Side effects of some bad powder there.
Tbf we were even battered at Arsenal. The fact that DDG was the main talking point for days after the game tells you all you need to know.It isn't good, but if you want to point out something show the whole picture. Arsenal is an extremely difficult away fixture this season. Spurs were demolished there in the same way they did it to us on Wednesday.
Did Heraclitus prefer a flat back 4 or 3-5-2? And would he have gone for a right-foot, left-foot CB pairing?As our old friend Heraclitus once said: "No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man."
Different teams, "different" managers, different times. The act of comparing the "today" with the "past" and ask why isn't history repeating itself exactly as before only brings pain and suffering.![]()
I think people will always question his methods, especially when we plays without ball against top teams.There is no cause for alarm. But people are right to be concerned about two basic issues that have been plaguing us for 4 years now:
1) In some games, we turn up like a bunch of sleep-walkers unable to even string 2 passes together and get bullied. This happens sporadically and more so against the other Top 6 teams. We know we can do better than that.
2) We rarely seem able to overturn 2-0 or 3-0 deficits. Our heads drop when we trail.
I am a believer of Jose's methods, but these are areas in which he hasn't improved us and he needs to do so by next season.
We're second in the league. You can throw all the toys out of the pram but thems the facts.Because we played fecking shite.
Also, since you asked, these are our results away from home against top teams (in league and FA Cup) since JM took over. Not including Arsenal as they're hardly a top team anymore.
0-0
0-4
0-1
1-2
0-0
0-0
0-1
0-2
But yeah, as you say it was a one-off wasn't it.
Going 2 goals up in minutes elicits a response from the home team as good as Arsenal. I would have said we battered them and then sat back waiting for a breakaway, which we got. It wasn't a battering. Spurs was. But they are a team capable of doing that to anyone and also losing to anyone away. I'm nit suggesting that we are anything to be proud of ...yet but we are one of three teams chasing shadows at the moment which puts it into perspective how good City have beenTbf we were even battered at Arsenal. The fact that DDG was the main talking point for days after the game tells you all you need to know.
Who's throwing toys out of the pram?We're second in the league. You can throw all the toys out of the pram but thems the facts.
The amazing and incredible Spurs are fifth. FIFTH. And have won nowt in decades.
And it's been 9 away games. 1 win, 3 draws (Liverpool, City, Liverpool) 5 losses (Chelsea x 2, Spurs x 2, Arsenal).Must have been given false information. Where aresenal in the top 6 when that match was played?
I just did counter your argument. And I didn't call you any names.Who's throwing toys out of the pram?
This just smacks of childish name-calling because someone's put an argument forward that you can't counter.
De Gea is there for a reason and paid for the same reason such big wages. We were also much better in transition and created 4 clear cut chances. I thought despite all their shots we fully deserved that one.Tbf we were even battered at Arsenal. The fact that DDG was the main talking point for days after the game tells you all you need to know.
Nah, feck that guy and his fake fireplace. He's no fan.
This cretin perfectly encapsulates some of you lot after a loss.
The best way to forget these matches is to take a ride in the history lane. 8-2 drubbing of Arsenal, beating all our rivals time and again to prove our superiority. We will get back to the top soon. It's taking time!Now, before I start. Last night was grim. Have a moan by all means, I wasn't impressed.
Tactics were wrong, system was wrong and the players couldn't be arsed.
Oh, and Phil Jones.
But some of us here take the moaning and dramas to a different level. It's pathetic.
We're second in the league behind a phenomenal Man City side. We had a fantastic January until last night.
In football, you lose matches and sometimes play badly. I personally feel we're about 'par' for where are right now. We've got some superb forward/attacking players, two immense midfielders and a world class GK.
We're still missing Bailly. Jones and Smalling will cause most managers anguish when a pumped up Spurs side are pressing you.
I'm not excusing last night - it was dross. But we've had matches like it under Fergie and we'll have matches like it again.
The way some on here behave though as if the end of the world is nigh. We lost a match. Move on.
Well if you accuse someone of throwing their toys out of the pram you're effectively calling them spoilt.I just did counter your argument. And I didn't call you any names.
Fair points mate.De Gea is there for a reason and paid for the same reason such big wages. We were also much better in transition and created 4 clear cut chances. I thought despite all their shots we fully deserved that one.
But, essentially, I do agree with you. We have to do better in big games in the future, saying otherwise would be ignoring a problem when we talk about this team.
Who said I'm worried ? It's just not good enough for the sake of the forum IMO. Criticism is fair but people has gone so far this time. Nearly every player has been slaughtered to the point of labeling them not good enough, finished or we will never win the league with them. It's embarrassing.Yes, I'm gutted that Liverpool and Arsenal fans will be laughing. It keeps me awake at night.
How many trophies Gabe they won between them the last decade?
Aye. Thought soseriously? Grown folks worrying about what people on the internet think of them. Crazy
Free flowing attacking football! But this is the only match i saw:Did Heraclitus prefer a flat back 4 or 3-5-2? And would he have gone for a right-foot, left-foot CB pairing?
If not Jose than who else?I do. But I had faith then that the manager would put things right.
So i checked myself:
Last season
2 0 ares
2 1 spurs
Nil nil city
Nil nil pool
4 nil chelsea
0 wins 1 goal
This season
Nil nil pool
1 0 Chelsea
1 3 us against ares
2 0 spurs
Haven't played away city yet
1 win 3 goals
Total 1 win 4 goals in 9 away games against top 6 sides
And it's been 9 away games. 1 win, 3 draws (Liverpool, City, Liverpool) 5 losses (Chelsea x 2, Spurs x 2, Arsenal).
I've noticed this as well.One of the things I've noticed when we lose, is that people with agendas against certain players, get free reign to create utterly shit threads about said players, to try vindicate themselves and get others on-board.
Nope i still read emThis is one of the reasons I got into Redcafe. It always used to be a good pick me up after a defeat.
I must admit though, over the last few years the reactions have gotten progressively more negative. So much hate towards the team and individual players sometimes.
I usually avoid it now after a defeat, at least until people's focus shifts to the next game.
ThisThere's a mini meltdown when we win as well.
Everything gets reset, multiple threads gets spammed with nonsense about attacking patterns or lambasting players because they're not Harry fecking Kane
Yes, but what use is «entertaining» football if you don’t win? It’s just as worthless.I think the problem is that Mourinho is a manager who's all about results and unfortunately when the result goes against us all we're left with is 'shit on a stick' football.
I feel for you, if there's nothing more to the game for you other than winning.Yes, but what use is «entertaining» football if you don’t win? It’s just as worthless.
Feel ahead, my friend.I feel for you, if there's nothing more to the game for you other than winning.
It's surely better than a shit match in which United drop points, isn't it?Feel ahead, my friend.
I derive no pleasure at all from watching an entertaining match where United drop points.
In fact, that’s even worse!
Not really, it would have been more infuriating to watch United play fantastic but still fail to win.. Either way, the outcome is the same.It's surely better than a shit match in which United drop points, isn't it?