I'm glad you've taken my advice and have decided to enjoy this moment rather than wallow in negativity. I'm looking forward to tonight as well, very big game. Fingers crossed we smash them.We got there in the end!!! You was just itching to get this off your chest
Listen it’s match day. I can’t actually be bothered for an Ole debate today. I’m in a good mood. Imagine me calling myself a United fan and being excited for a United game.
Anyway enjoy your day.
Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)
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I’ve always not been totally convinced by Ole to be honest yes, I feel like maybe it’s the talent of the players (Ie Bruno’s inclusion) more so than any great managerial ability for the great form we’ve shown recently.
I think we should still be looking for the best managerial talent in the world, but I can also see how Ole gets another season ;especially if we get top 4) and I hope he proves me wrong.
You're as slippery as an eel MainoldoWe got there in the end!!! You was just itching to get this off your chest
Listen it’s match day. I can’t actually be bothered for an Ole debate today. I’m in a good mood. Imagine me calling myself a United fan and being excited for a United game.
Anyway enjoy your day.
Well didn't Bruno sign for Ole and his abilities? In turn hasn't he used him correctly and not stifled him like some other managers may have?
There's no absolute certain way to hiring a manager, otherwise all clubs would be doing it. We had LVG & Jose who had far better CV's than Ole and he is out performing both of them in building a team for the long term and playing far better football than either at any point.
Again it comes back to whom do you replace him with?
I like Poch but reality is, even Ole has won more silverware than Poch.
Allegri done fantastic work at Milan & Juve of course, does that translate to United? Possibly but there are no guarantees as we've seen with Jose "Serial Winner" Mourinho.
His man management style seems to be perfect and almost all of the players are responding well to it, this is a vital side of the role. His signings. for the most part, have been positive too. I think the best thing we can do now is identify a tactically strong assistant manager/coach who can come in and strengthen that side of the team. The manager doesn't have to be excellent at everything, you just need to have the right mix of people to cover the needs.
I’m not breaking character today. I avoided you nicely.. then they tried to pull me back in.You're as slippery as an eel Mainoldo
I keep on hearing you say he has not changed the game but he did do that against our former manager when we faced spurs. We literally were all over them in that second half. Not many managers including klopp and pep change the formation in between of the game, they just change the personnel.
Yes we were not great against Soton but even then we should have won had rashford and martial taken their chances. Even a rival fan here has admitted that we were good that day just unfortunate that we lost our left back and were playing with 10 men. I know we should have made sure to finish that game 2-1 but shit happens. You don't go on winning by 3 goals margin for 4 consecutive games if you are just not good. You may not like it but we have played some good football since Bruno has joined. Now you will say that is Bruno effect and nothing to do with ole but then we can say same about klopp that it is VVD effect or Mane effect that Pool are doing so good. If you blame ole for poor performance then you should also praise him for the good which I don't see you doing with the same passion. It's like you are more interested in to be proven right than Ole being successful.
Only 10 mins in and this is a very interesting listen.
Southampton weren’t unlucky at all, draw was a fair result.
I have praised him for our good results & performances. Which is why I’m not saying he definitely should be sacked just that I’m not totally convinced & think we could probably do better that’s all
Tell me how many chances Soton had the other day. I remember one good save that de gea had to make, that's it. We had 2 great chances in the second half itself. Again not saying we were good but you cannot keep on showing up after the games we drop points and then pretend to be fair to Ole.
Southampton constantly looked a threat, we didn’t look in control at all. If you didn’t see it that way then fair enough.
So Ole can’t get any criticism, after I’ve just said I praise him for the way we’ve come back from a truly awful season to a potentially half decent one, ok fair enough
I hope to see you here in this post if we finish in top 4 because I am sure to see you if we don't.
Southampton were very lucky to escape with a point. We should have been out of sight before the 70-minute mark, but failed to take our many chances and ultimately paid the price.
Confirmation bias indeed.
For all their energy and enthusiasm in midfield, they never looked like scoring against us. We should have won the game comfortably.
Did you honestly think we had a good game? Must’ve been watching a different one as Southampton always looked a threat & we had no answer for their pressing
They never looked like scoring? Wow how on earth did they manage 2 then.
Confirmation bias indeed
He reckoned Bournemouth were tearing us to pieces as well. I don't think we've been watching the same games.
I said they were cutting through us with ease, not ‘tearing us to pieces’
Does that sound hugely different to you?
Then according to your analogy we also deserved to score more than 2 even after not being good. You cannot just refuse to admit one fact and then keep on saying Soton were amazing and we were shit. Yes Soton were better in that second half but even then we missed 2 huge chances and Soton hardly created anything and only managed to score when we were down to 10. And in this whole argument we are not even talking about Romeu's challenge which should have warranted a red card.
Shit happens so move on.
Obviously. Tearing us to pieces makes it sound like they were destroying us all game.
Cutting through us with ease is suggesting it was way too easy when they attacked us only & we looked susceptible
Why on Earth are you showing highlights as a means to prove your point? You need to show the whole game to see how the game actually went- not just snippets of it.
Agreed. Romeu sent off and we take one of our several other chances, we win the game comfortably. Just one of those games the other night, they happen. Looking forward to tonight.
Stop it please. This is not some random draw or loss in December when you still have time to recover, improve etc. This is literally a choke job when we had the chance to go 3rd. This is literally the same pattern from the end of last season repeating now. It's not a coincidence.
If there's any scoring chance, it'd be in the highlight. And it's from the Sou youtube acc.
Could you show us a clip that Sou got more than three scoring chances in that please?
I swear some people don’t actually watch football properly. You could have a very threatening attack with a ball fizzed across the box not included on that highlight package, you don’t get the feel of how the game actually went from a highlights package.
If there's any scoring chance, it'd be in the highlight. And it's from the Sou youtube acc.
Could you show us a clip that Sou got more than three scoring chances in that please?
Well, when you focus on a handful of attacks and claim a team who weren't really creating clear-cut chances were cutting through us with ease, it makes it seem like we were in real danger of losing the game.
It wasn't our most convincing performance since the restart, but I put most of that down to fatigue. Playing the same team five times in quick succession is bound to have an adverse effect, they are only human.
Still, we created more than enough chances to win the game and would have had our finishing been on par with our previous 4 or 5 games. It wasn't though, and we paid the price as a result of that.
That's just football.
You call it a very threatening attack with 3 scoring chances for the whole 90' ?
Well that's hell of a new definition
Now, again, seriously do you have any other evidence to back up your very threatening attack than just your own words ? And don't dodge it again man, it makes you look bad.
If you watched the game and didn’t think they looked threatening (and them scoring 2 goals implies) then good for you, I’m not trawling through clips for youYou call it a very threatening attack with 3 scoring chances for the whole 90' ?
Well that's hell of a new definition
Now, again, seriously do you have any other evidence to back up your very threatening attack than just your own words ? And don't dodge it again man, it makes you look bad.
That’s another fair take from the game, we weren’t convincing correct. And when you’re not that convincing you can’t complain when we draw. I was gutted when they scored at the end, but was it undeserving, I honestly don’t think it was unfortunately
1. No it is not opinion. Klopps record didn't have to be factored into it because the progress was clear. Now if he was performing poorly then maybe they would say, 'let's give him more time because he's done good before' but it wasn't even a discussion. Ole is performing well, progressing, like Klopp. If we were playing poorly now, Ole's job would definitely be on the line because he has no prior achievements to speak of. At the moment it shouldn't be in discussion.
2. I think all clubs, at all times, should be looking for available managers, at the moment though Ole's position shouldn't be in question. He has things to prove still, and things to work on, like all managers that aren't top of the league. Even Klopp should be queried by fans for his inability to challenge in multiple competitions, but it doesn't mean his position is in question.
Mourinho's streak was littered with draws, and it was ONLY at OT, which means he was otherwise losing games. He also wasn't winning games by 3 goals, bringing through a very young squad and showing progress in style of play. The environment was also horrible. It is not comparable.
Sorry, I didn't see the academy player Q, was that aimed at me?
So you don't have any ?
I am glad you watched it properly. Did you see how many saves DDG made and block after block made from our defenders? They had like 2 ball fizzed across
They have one good save of DDG, one mistake goal and one corner.
If we had no answer to their pressing, how did we score 2 goals? How did we create better chances than them? If we had no answer, it means we relied on set pieces and long balls, why were both our goals created from brilliant play?
I’m not searching for any wasting my time for some stranger on the internet, that is correct
Is anyone really entertaining a new manager?
Wouldn't the money be better used on the squad seeing as there is a remarkable improvement under Ole?
Why is this thread still going?
Wouldn't the money be better used on the squad seeing as there is a remarkable improvement under Ole?
Why is this thread still going?
Why is everyone so defensive with Ole. If it was a Jose/LVG match it would be a more fair reflection of the game I’m sure.I am glad you watched it properly. Did you see how many saves DDG made and block after block made from our defenders? They had like 2 ball fizzed across
They have one good save of DDG, one mistake goal and one corner.
If we had no answer to their pressing, how did we score 2 goals? How did we create better chances than them? If we had no answer, it means we relied on set pieces and long balls, why were both our goals created from brilliant play?
I never said we were Shite. We just weren’t convincing & a draw was a fair result
So you have nothing to back up what you said ?
Because Ole is probably not good enough based on what we have seen so far.
Good enough to win big things that is.
It is not enough to just buy players you need to coach them to an elite level too.
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