He is the very very firstJust not feeling this at all, I think he's good for a while yet no matter what, and so he should be, he's long down the list of the people that need to leave the club right now.
He is the very very firstJust not feeling this at all, I think he's good for a while yet no matter what, and so he should be, he's long down the list of the people that need to leave the club right now.
If we keep playing like this his situation should become totally untenable.Jose got sacked somewhat out of the blue, when most of us assumed Woody would hold off until CL qualification was no longer an option.
The board will have no choice but to pull the trigger if we perform like this for the next couple of weeks.
When will this start?
Every day. If people can't see that it is not my fault. Road to success is not without bumps.Yeah we sure are moving forward and developing big time.
Not necessarily. I'd imagine Woodward was definitely watching that with Poch on his mind throughout. I genuinely hope he's gone tomorrow and it'd be a great decision too going into the Everton game.Again, it's not what I want. I personally think he's gotten too much time as it is. I never would have kept him on after his caretaker spell.
I just don't see anything concrete about him getting sacked. If it was near, I think there would be a-lot more noise about it. He should be under serious pressure as we've looked really poor this season, in general.
Agreed, just can’t see it happening.That's kind of my feeling on it too. There's zero noise about him getting sacked.
How dare you look at the bigger picture?
Probably I have been Ole out since the shambolic end of his first season and never changed my view as it's so obvious he shouldn't be anywhere near this role that is baffling how people still think he is the right man for the job Would gladly take another 1-6 if it it means Ole getting sacked.Top reds comments starting in 3..2..1...
Yea i said that a few days ago. Unless we are really bad they will probably wait till CL is not mathematically possible.Still won't happen. You only get sacked mid season at this club if you successful manage to turn the entire place toxic - like Mourinho. Everyone else has to wait until the end of the season (or mathematically can't make top 4)
What is the best for club in a long run is only thing important. We all know the answer in this case but 9 of 10 fans will never admit that they want United to lose.To play devils advocate...
Would you take a 1-0 defeat in Sunday if it meant he got sacked straight after and Pochettino was brought in.
The alternative is a win/draw and Ole lives to fight another season with the same old shite we've seen for the last 2 seasons.
Lose a game to get a manager in that had his team playing worse than this a year ago. Not convinced.To play devils advocate...
Would you take a 1-0 defeat in Sunday if it meant he got sacked straight after and Pochettino was brought in.
The alternative is a win/draw and Ole lives to fight another season with the same old shite we've seen for the last 2 seasons.
No, Woodward is the 'very very first', he is the one who keeps hiring and overseeing all these failing managers after all.He is the very very first
Yep, lose one battle to win the war. Lose one game now win many in the future, or win one game now and lose many in the future.To play devils advocate...
Would you take a 1-0 defeat in Sunday if it meant he got sacked straight after and Pochettino was brought in.
The alternative is a win/draw and Ole lives to fight another season with the same old shite we've seen for the last 2 seasons.
Think how absurd that is though. We have 7 points and we are absolutely awful most games.Agreed, just can’t see it happening.
If we are no better by the end of NEXT season, then yes sack Poch.Lose a game to get a manager in that had his team playing worse than this a year ago. Not convinced.
In that scenario what happens if we're no better by the end of the season (as is very likely with these players) do you sack Poch?
We may eventually get it right but it will be pure coincidence. The decision makers have absolutely no clue when it comes to footballing matters. We will try to go with the obvious options like Poch who may turn out to be good but I don't think he is the right person for the job. The problem with a scatter gun approach to hiring managers is the redundancies that are created every time a new manager is appointed. Any new manager that comes in may decide that AWB, Maguire, Shaw or any other player is not suited to his system and we will have to wait for another 2-3 transfer windows when the team can be suited to his ideas. We are too inefficient in the transfer market for us to succeed with a manager merry-go-round approach.We'll get the right manager eventually. It took us a long time to get Sir Alex after Sir Matt. There were a lot of managers in between there. We just need to accept this and stop clinging to every single manager and hope they're the one even when evidence points to the contrary.
Poch should have a fair crack at the whip. Ole has had two seasons and 4/5 transfer windows. Poch is a far superior manager to Ole.Lose a game to get a manager in that had his team playing worse than this a year ago. Not convinced.
In that scenario what happens if we're no better by the end of the season (as is very likely with these players) do you sack Poch?
He has the easiest job in the world. Not only would any other guy lose his job he would probably get sued for his incompetence as well.Think how absurd that is though. We have 7 points and we are absolutely awful most games.
Not sacking him is yet another thing that highlights Ed and the Glazers incompetence
He would definitely not get sacked now so I guess better to win.To play devils advocate...
Would you take a 1-0 defeat in Sunday if it meant he got sacked straight after and Pochettino was brought in.
The alternative is a win/draw and Ole lives to fight another season with the same old shite we've seen for the last 2 seasons.
I think you're right mateThere is. He was on monday night football the other day.
I mean that's their main incompetence over the last 7 years. That they wait way too long to sack managers.Think how absurd that is though. We have 7 points and we are absolutely awful most games.
Not sacking him is yet another thing that highlights Ed and the Glazers incompetence
You aren't wrong, but, the decision makers and the owners aren't going anywhere anytime soon. The only hope we can have is that we end up stumbling onto the right manager. Not ideal, but it is what it is.We may eventually get it right but it will be pure coincidence. The decision makers have absolutely no clue when it comes to footballing matters. We will try to go with the obvious options like Poch who may turn out to be good but I don't think he is the right person for the job. The problem with a scatter gun approach to hiring managers is the redundancies that are created every time a new manager is appointed. Any new manager that comes in may decide that AWB, Maguire, Shaw or any other player is not suited to his system and we will have to wait for another 2-3 transfer windows when the team can be suited to his ideas. We are too inefficient in the transfer market for us to succeed with a manager merry-go-round approach.
Woodward is an incompetent rat but getting rid of him won’t turn Ole into half a decent manager either.No, Woodward is the 'very very first', he is the one who keeps hiring and overseeing all these failing managers after all.
Well obviously Ole has had nearly 24 months so Poch should be afforded the same time and resources. In a hypothetical land of course.Lose a game to get a manager in that had his team playing worse than this a year ago. Not convinced.
In that scenario what happens if we're no better by the end of the season (as is very likely with these players) do you sack Poch?
Totally agree he must now depart ASAP ... Ole who is not considered an Elite Coach snd therefore does not deserve more time he had to win the FA Cup or Europa League to go with CL qualification, to lose one semi final is unlucky, two incompetent, three tactically inept so thank you Ole you’ve built a much better squad but now we need an Elite Coach to make those players better and perform to their potential, this season first 11 games in all comps, 6 wins 1 draw 4 defeats is not a disaster but 1 point in 12 at home is untenable in the premier league for Man UnitedNot necessarily. I'd imagine Woodward was definitely watching that with Poch on his mind throughout. I genuinely hope he's gone tomorrow and it'd be a great decision too going into the Everton game.
One can dreamNot a chance he goes before the weekend, thats pure wishful thinking from some.
Not at the end of the season but yeah, if he’s still crap after a fair crack of the whip... sack.Lose a game to get a manager in that had his team playing worse than this a year ago. Not convinced.
In that scenario what happens if we're no better by the end of the season (as is very likely with these players) do you sack Poch?