Fair enough, I have my doubts D. Sanchez is an upgrade on Smalling as a ball player but I assumed no more signings coming in. To be honest I don't mind Smalling and Jones and particularly if the latter stays fit he can be a very good player (if a little crazy).
Would you sell Smalling or Jones to rival for 40m?
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Yeah great Idea, let's sell a better player and buy another 1 who's not as good for 30m. Great idea.
Now there's an idea!
If, or until Lindelof 'shows up', we keep CB's as they are, the first choice pair Bailly/Jones, backup Rojo/Smalling.
It would have to be exceptional circumstances to sell to rivals like City and Liverpool who are both struggling to bolster their defences, players who might help them in that respect.
In certain quarters that's known as 'p***ing in the soup'
He was atrocious on the ball in the EL final. Mourinho clearly knew this as whenever Sanchez was on the ball, nobody pressed him. He was allowed to stroll in to our half with it, because he kept blasting it up the pitch aimlessly.
As soon as De Ligt had the ball, he was pressed. De Ligt is a ball player. Sanchez is not. Similar to Smalling, he is a physical brute but not a ball player.
I like the look of Sanchez, and he defends well as a pure defender, but on the ball he makes Smalling look like Beckenbauer. He doesn't even look good on the ball in the Eredivisie and that is a pisspoor league.
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No, would never consider strengthening a rival, especially City or Liverpool.
Absolutely correct.
Sanchez was the one player that Jose targeted our tactics to expose.
We never pressed him at all throughout the final, and time after time, he aimlessly turned possession back to ourselves.
I don't know by what measure selling them Smalling or Jones would be strengthening them.
I'd never do ANY business with Liverpool, ever, full stop.
I think they can be good players, though I concede there's question marks over both. I don't see Liverpool turning either player down and if it's true City are in for Evans I'm sure they would be interested too.
This.
If I personally got the £40m, I'd sell the entire staff and playing staff, the stadium and you lot.
Unfortunately I can't sell what isn't mine and don't give a feck how much United pay or receive. That's their money
Unfortunately I can't sell what isn't mine and don't give a feck how much United pay or receive. That's their money
Wouldn't you say Smalling and Jones are better defenders than Mangala, Stones, Karius, Lovren? Citeh and Liverpool conceded a lot of goals last season you can't deny these two guys could improve their defenses
It's more obsessed with how much United spend and earn, despite any knowledge of how much they actually have.
I'm sure Real Madrid look at their star-filled double-CL winning team with unhappiness because they didn't get enough for Pepe and paid £10m too much for Bale
Smalling yes, Jones no. Obviously wouldn't sell to Liverpool or City (unless they gave us Aguero in PX)
Smack Smailing, Smell Jones.
I'd be funny to see Smalling aka Bambi on ice playing for Guardiola. He would give away atleast two goals a game so I would sell him but only to City.
Jones, no way.
Jones, no way.
I suppose everyone on here jumping at the theoretical chance to move on Smalling/Jones to a rival were the first to decry Heinze when he wanted to move to Liverpool?
I'd move on both of them so long as we had suitable replacements lined up
What do you care? You've got Pique, Umtiti and Macherano. I know
If they gave me that money, absolutely
Under LvG, I seem to recall Smalling being one of the best defenders in the league.
Key word "Strengthening" lol
I'd happily "Strengthen" them just like we "Strengthened" Everton
I'd happily "Strengthen" them just like we "Strengthened" Everton
It's funny come to think of it. You have a player like Mata, right? The season in which Mou came, people wanted him sold. He turned out to be one of our best last season. The same issue with Rojo.
And now a player like Smalling, who has proven himself at least to be an adequate (Home grown) player as a rotational defender. Why'd you sell him? For money? Money doesn't buy you titles. Buy a new player sure, but you get a lot of incertenties, not just on the pitch but off it as well.
Muppets.
And now a player like Smalling, who has proven himself at least to be an adequate (Home grown) player as a rotational defender. Why'd you sell him? For money? Money doesn't buy you titles. Buy a new player sure, but you get a lot of incertenties, not just on the pitch but off it as well.
Muppets.
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No, United nick out rival's players not sell to them. We'll take your Van Persie, your Matic and your Cantona but all you'll get in return is Welbeck.
Tevez doesn't count, the ungrateful cnut.
Seriously though, they're both good defenders. If Jones stays fit I reckon he'll be very good. No way would I sell them for the relatively low amount nowadays of £40m, minus the cost of potentially missing out on trophies or slipping down the league because of it.
Tevez doesn't count, the ungrateful cnut.
Seriously though, they're both good defenders. If Jones stays fit I reckon he'll be very good. No way would I sell them for the relatively low amount nowadays of £40m, minus the cost of potentially missing out on trophies or slipping down the league because of it.
Jones yes. How good he is is irrelevant, he's a crock. He'll also regularly injure their own players, so it would be a great piece of sabotage.
Smalling no. He's quality.
Smalling no. He's quality.
How would Smalling give away two goals a game enlighten me
You're one hell of a guy. I bet you're having a good time in that Bryan Robson thread.On the subject of usernames yours was intriguing so I googled it. You'll be pleased to know I'm now going to dl Psychic Warfare
It was tongue in cheeck.
But clearly he's poor with the ball and panics under pressure and the gung ho passing game Guardiola likes to play would expose him for what he is.
Sanchez was pressed aswell, he just has the ability to play himself out of it. I was impressed with his footwork in the final. If he would be as bad as Smalling with a ball than first of all Ajax would not have signed him as they require their defence to build play from the back and need good footballers to do that and secondly Barcelona and Real would also not have been interested him as they require basically the same but on a higher level. Sanchez is also the type of defender that goes forward and contributes with goals, last year he scored 6.
Sanchez is obviously raw and he will make mistakes, perhaps that is why you are calling him atrocious but he has a shitload of potential and many top clubs are very interested in him and he will likley go for more than £40m. We couldn't even sell Smalling for half of that if we wanted to because he such a limited player with no skills on the ball and no pace.
£40m to weaken a rival? Feck yeah!
This.
If I got to pocket the money, absolutely!
Smalling has no pace?
And he's fine on the ball aside from his passing, which is pretty awful for a top level player. Which funnily enough sounds similar to Sanchez.Yes, I would sell any one of them, or swap deal for a top Winger...
I'd urge you to watch the final again, and see how often Sanchez brought the ball over the half way line totally unopposed as we backed off and backed off, and then how often he just hammered it across field to nobody. And then see how quickly the even-younger De Ligt was pounced on as soon as he got the ball, cutting of all passing options, except for to Sanchez or back to the goalkeeper, because De Ligt can play the ball well. Even just watch BT's analysis again. They showed all the times we continually backed off from Sanchez and let him have it. There were a couple of occasions where he'd ran in a straight line until he was about 35 yards from our goal before we finally moved towards him. He didn't ever "play out" from anything. He was so clearly not deemed a threat with the ball, and quite rightly, as he never did threaten with it. He had the most touches of any player on the pitch in the final, because he was allowed to do so. De Ligt had just over half the amount of touches, as he was targeted. Mourinho confirmed this.
Defensively he was excellent, and as a pure defender he has all the physical attributes, but he was absolutely not the ball player that night, or any other night.
Sanchez has a lot of potential, but I can't see him all of a sudden becoming a ball player. He just isn't one. I haven't seen anywhere where he is supposedly renowned as one, and whenever I've seen Ajax, he is never that player. There's nothing particularly wrong with that, as not every centre back needs to be a playmaker. I personally prefer a CB pairing of a ball player and a brute. Sanchez is the latter, and unless he has some enormous transformation, that's where he'll develop.
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No. Of course not.
Unless you're implying the money goes into my bank account. Then, feck yeah!
I've never understood why anyone sees exchanging players for money is as something they want to see. It's not our money and the club is loaded. If we're getting rid of someone who is absolutely shit to create space for a talented youngster then, sure, go for it. Otherwise, what's the upside for me as a fan? There is none.
Unless you're implying the money goes into my bank account. Then, feck yeah!
I've never understood why anyone sees exchanging players for money is as something they want to see. It's not our money and the club is loaded. If we're getting rid of someone who is absolutely shit to create space for a talented youngster then, sure, go for it. Otherwise, what's the upside for me as a fan? There is none.
What a stupid idea this would be. Teams are screaming out for good defenders so feck knows why we'd go out of our way to sell them any of ours. Unless you've knee jerked and deluded your way into thinking they're both shite, in which you'd be totally wrong.
You know the Smalling narrative is getting beyond a joke when you've got people arguing he has no pace. Football, bloody hell.
You know the Smalling narrative is getting beyond a joke when you've got people arguing he has no pace. Football, bloody hell.