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Go on then. Who's our hero that will definitely lead us back to glory?
Go on then. Who's our hero that will definitely lead us back to glory?
I don’t know what point you’re making. I do know that 84 points would give us the best chance we’ve had of winning the league since Fergie retired and 100 goals would be the most fun season to watch in at least a decade. I also think the squad we have now is a hell of a lot better than the Liverpool squad he had then (or any Leicester squad he’s had). The strength in depth is a different league entirely.I'm sorry but don't you get tired of 9 years not winning PL? And you want Rodgers to console yourself a little bit but at the end it will end up with the same pain.
Yes to Ten Hag. No to VDS. No more ex players
Why don't you want VDS as CEO? He has CEO experience and education qualification.Yes to Ten Hag. No to VDS. No more ex players
No. He’s CEO of Ajax. United are a a huge business. He might have some football knowledge but name me a player who is CEO at Madrid, Juventus, PSG, City, Chelsea.Why don't you want VDS as CEO?
He said he'd give his bollock to get to 84 points by the end of THIS season. It would be a minor miracle if we did that at this point with our start and you're questioning it? 84 points has even won the league a few times. Everyone would snap your hand off if we could finish on 84 points given at our current rate we're on course for 59 points.I'm sorry but don't you get tired of 9 years not winning PL? And you want Rodgers to console yourself a little bit but at the end it will end up with the same pain.
The point is Man United are about winning the league or UCL, while 84 points with 100 goals in one season don't give us best chance to win us the league or UCL against the likes of Tuchel, Pep, and Klopp now. If Rodgers couldn't beat Lampard or Ole in 19/20 for top 4 spot after having huge lead points, how is he going to do it with our current squad against teams with better players and managers like Chelsea, City, and Liverpool? He would still bottle it.I don’t know what point you’re making. I do know that 84 points would give us the best chance we’ve had of winning the league since Fergie retired and 100 goals would be the most fun season to watch in at least a decade. I also think the squad we have now is a hell of a lot better than the Liverpool squad he had then (or any Leicester squad he’s had). The strength in depth is a different league entirely.
Im not disagreeing with you. But they had Johnny Evans. We had Maguire, Chelsea had Rudiger.The point is Man United are about winning the league or UCL, while 84 points with 100 goals in one season don't give us best chance to win us the league or UCL against the likes of Tuchel, Pep, and Klopp now. If Rodgers couldn't beat Lampard or Ole in 19/20 for top 4 spot after having huge lead points, how is he going to do it with our current squad against teams with better players and managers like Chelsea, City, and Liverpool? He would still bottle it.
But Rodgers didn't achieve that 84 points by taking in charged Liverpool from mid November.He said he'd give his bollock to get to 84 points by the end of THIS season. It would be a minor miracle if we did that at this point with our start and you're questioning it? 84 points has even won the league a few times. Everyone would snap your hand off if we could finish on 84 points.
So he had a better CB than us?Im not disagreeing with you. But they had Johnny Evans. We had Maguire, Chelsea had Rudiger.
I meant his full seasons, so fine if you want to include the season he took over then he did improve them between the season he took over and his first full season.This is plainly wrong. They were stuck in mid-table when he took over and they rose a few places in his first season to finish in 9th or 10th. In his second season they finished 5th - were in the top 4 all season and they were one of a number of clubs who's form dropped off a cliff after project restart. In his third season they again finished 5th but got more points than the previous season and they won the FA Cup for the first time in the clubs history. Whether you like or dislike him, that's not PR it's factual.
My subliminal point was the facilities are far greater compared to them. The lost key players towards the end of the last two season.So he had a better CB than us?
You are missing the point. So according to you Leicester had CB level below like Evans to compete with Maguire under Ole management for top 4. But the end result he couldn't do it.Im not disagreeing with you. But they had Johnny Evans. We had Maguire, Chelsea had Rudiger.
So you are conveniently ignoring Varane or you don't rate him at all.You are missing the point. So according to you Leicester had CB level below like Evans to compete with Maguire under Ole management for top 4 but the end result he couldn't do it.
While if he comes here, he will be in the same situation that he will have CB level below like Maguire to compete with Van Dijk and Dias under Klopp and Pep management for league title.
See the similar pattern here?
Why do you think the original poster also is conveniently ignoring Tielemans, Ndidi, and Vardy who are way better than what we had in 19/20? You will understand what the point is if you know the answer.So you are conveniently ignoring Varane or you don't rate him at all.
No. We have Raphael Varane. So I don’t see your point.You are missing the point. So according to you Leicester had CB level below like Evans to compete with Maguire under Ole management for top 4. But the end result he couldn't do it.
While if he comes here, he will be in the same situation that he will have CB level below like Maguire to compete with Van Dijk and Dias under Klopp and Pep management for league title.
See the similar pattern here? If anything it will be worse if he comes here because he is not just competing against better players but also competing against better managers than Ole and Lampard.
Are you deliberately not mentioning Bayern, therewith not havign to compromise in your narrative?No. He’s CEO of Ajax. United are a a huge business. He might have some football knowledge but name me a player who is CEO at Madrid, Juventus, PSG, City, Chelsea.
Don't be daft. VDS is ex-United, but he's also an Ajax man who has learnt the job and shown performance. Not like Neville or Rio (who this weekend said he'd be a "f***in amazing Director of Football). Van der Sar has proven he doesn't have that same ignorance and sense of entitlement.Yes to Ten Hag. No to VDS. No more ex players
VDS has CEO experience and education qualification, which are the reasons why I vote for him to be the next CEO. Not because he is an ex-player mate.No. He’s CEO of Ajax. United are a a huge business. He might have some football knowledge but name me a player who is CEO at Madrid, Juventus, PSG, City, Chelsea.
Im deliberately not mentioning Bayern because they have a monopoly similar to Ajax where other clubs just can’t financially compete and already surrender to challenge when it comes to finance and players.Are you deliberately not mentioning Bayern, therewith not havign to compromise in your narrative?
His got a piece of paper. You and me literally no nothing. Before him were Ajax ran less sufficient? What actually has he done well as a CEO?VDS has CEO experience and education qualification, which are the reasons why I vote for him to be the next CEO. Not because he is an ex-player mate.
If you include Varane why didn't you mention Ndidi, Tielemans, and Vardy are better than our midfields and striker in 19/20?No. We have Raphael Varane. So I don’t see your point.
Okay let’s go.If you include Varane why didn't you mention Ndidi, Tielemans, and Vardy are better than our midfields and striker in 19/20?
Before Ed, Man United ran much more sufficient. You think it's easy to maintain club run properly?His got a piece of paper. You and me literally no nothing. Before him were Ajax ran less sufficient? What actually has he done well as a CEO?
So who do we have Trent, Cancelo, James, Matip, Dias, VVD, Laporte, Silva, Rudiger, Jorginho, Kante, Rodri, Gundogan, Henderson, Thiago, Fabinho level?Okay let’s go.
so who do they have Pogba and Bruno level? Ndidi is good at his job.. he’s not a great player.
Vardy? Rashford, Martial and Cavani.
Like you are just being silly.
A ''monopoly' is something that can only exist or be created when a club is well run and has a good structure. Van der Sar and Overmars took reign at Ajax in 2012. Before that Ajax were Champions times out of the thirteen years before they tookover and played Uefa Cup/Europa League way more often than Champions League. Before 18/19 Ajax had only survived the CL group stages once this century.Im deliberately not mentioning Bayern because they have a monopoly similar to Ajax where other clubs just can’t financially compete and already surrender to challenge when it comes to finance and players.
But feel free the name me clubs with similar surroundings.