You keep telling yourself that…and it will be just as meaningless as their trophies……
I didn’t realise ‘be really condescending’ was part of the site admin job descriptionYou keep telling yourself that
Oh yeah, key skillI didn’t realise ‘be really condescending’ was part of the site admin job description
hahahaOh yeah, key skill
Sorry I don’t mean to, I just think history books will show them as being a very successful club in the pep era regardless of what we think.hahaha
De Zerbi beyond doubt. No contest. But Pep will win it if City win the treble.
The whole “All of city’s trophies have an asterisk by them, no one takes the trophies they win seriously“ is just a coping mechanism. As you said, history will simply show that they were the dominant team of this period.Sorry I don’t mean to, I just think history books will show them as being a very successful club in the pep era regardless of what we think.
Yeah, in much the same way that history simply shows that Juventus* were the dominant Serie A team of the early to mid 00s.The whole “All of city’s trophies have an asterisk by them, no one takes the trophies they win seriously“ is just a coping mechanism. As you said, history will simply show that they were the dominant team of this period.
Well, until some official body says otherwise it is what it isYeah, in much the same way that history simply shows that Juventus* were the dominant Serie A team of the early to mid 00s.
What exactly did he switch?For me it's Pep. Proved he's the best in the division and the best tactician of all time. The tactical switch midseason to an innovative system that we've never seen and no one else uses was a masterstroke and for me the reason why he should win it. Yes other managers had bigger surprises. But when novel tactical innovations take place and they have such a resounding impact, it's a clear sign of managerial knowhow. If not him, Di Zerbi, for similar reasons.
So if we managed to snag a great deal for kane or osimen and they proceed to score 40 league goals for us and we win everything ten hag automatically loses running for manager because he got a good player .... What is this logic.De Zerbi - implementing attractive play style immediately while coming late to the league
Arteta - give Pep a run for his money without star player
Howe - Built a resilient team, truly an underdog, and managed to get a UCL spot
I'm surprised that some of you think Pep and EtH are in contention for Manager of the Year.
Pep has a freak goalscorer, and EtH has spent almost 200 mil for 3 players.
The difference here is let's say Ten Hag got Kane and won the league, he's winning it against the most financially doped football team in history.So if we managed to snag a great deal for kane or osimen and they proceed to score 40 league goals for us and we win everything ten hag automatically loses running for manager because he got a good player .... What is this logic.
Snagging the freak at a really affordable price is part of the success story. You can't just ignore it.
Really affordable? If you ignore the agent fee, his Dad's fee, his published wages and whatever he's getting paid under the table then sure. It's almost like a real life fairytale.Snagging the freak at a really affordable price is part of the success story. You can't just ignore it.
While we are living proof money alone doesn't buy success. You need great management as well.The difference here is let's say Ten Hag got Kane and won the league, he's winning it against the most financially doped football team in history.
Respectfully disagree. I don’t think Arteta did transform Arsenal into title contenders. I know that sounds weird and maybe my head needs a wobble but bear with me. (1) He tanked every other competition just so he could focus on the league. Playing a game a week, while everyone else was juggling a much more hectic fixture list and being competitive on multiple fronts. (2) When we got to the business end of the season, as in when we got to the point where there was actual pressure, his team folded like a cheap deck of cards. Yes, they sat at the top of the table for a long time, but I say that’s a result of (1). When it mattered, they were nowhere to be found. Finished the season empty handed, and to some degree demoralised.
Who would yours be? Maybe a top three.
For me
1. Arteta - To transform Arsenal into title contenders, leading the league for most of the season from where they were last season was incredible.
2. Howe - No one expected Newcastle to be in the top four. Fantastic achievement.
3. De Zerbi - Brighton play probably the best football in the world.
Not sure how that is relevant to the point?While we are living proof money alone doesn't buy success. You need great management as well.