Gaming Elder Scrolls V

Almost a week to go motherfeckers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111one
 
I will probably have it on Tuesday in exchange for Uncharted 3, and then not play it at all because I leave for Gdansk on Wednesday, but post pictures of it so you lot can be jealous.
 
A week to go. Well, 6 days as it'll probably arrive next Thurs.

Sex wee.
 
Solius said:
A week to go. Well, 6 days as it'll probably arrive next Thurs.

Sex wee.
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I am getting it 11/11/11 from a store, because if I ordered online and it didn't arrive on the day I would actually have some kind of breakdown.

The Royal Mail lost my Fallout 3, I ended up buy it from a store and then when I raised the issue with them they managed to find it after 20 days.
Didn't buy a game from an online store for launch for over a year after that, and I defo won't risk it for this game.
 
I think the last 10 games I've ordered have all been from Shopto, every single one has arrived the day before release.
 
Solius said:
I think the last 10 games I've ordered have all been from Shopto, every single one has arrived the day before release.
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Well I hope you get to 11.
Knowing my luck I'd end up getting it a few months after launch, I don't trust my local Royal Mail branch. They can get fecked.
 
Solius is correct, Shop To have always delivered a day earlier whenever I used them too. Definately one of the best online game retailers IMO.

I have to wait until Xmas for Skyrim - it's one of the presents my wife is buying me as I can't think what to put on my list this year. And it's also a good thing as work and studies are going to be vital over the next 6 weeks and I just know that I'll be sneaking in hours on Skyrim instead of doing what I am supposed to be doing if it's sitting there looking at me.

I'm going to be avoiding this thread like the plague commencing 11.11.11

Zarlak said:
I have never played Eldar Scrolls. Sell it to me.
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It's an RPG that you can play in 1st or 3rd person view. The game is played in huge open world environments and you can play out the quests, side quests or just go hunting and killing things all at your leisure.

You choose a race/species/whatever they're called to begin with and every one has it's own special abilities and weaknesses.

Skyrim is being marketed more as an Action Adventure as apparantly it's going to be far more accessible than previous Elder Scrolls games which for me is a good thing, I'm not into all the stats and geeky stuff that you get with RPG titles.

They are very dialogue driven games as well, so there's quite a lot of chatting and listening to what other characters have to say; as this always proves quite vital in quests and learning about the main story.

They are deep, immersive games and you don't particulary have to be interested in RPG titles to enjoy them although it does help.
 
Zarlak said:
I have never played Eldar Scrolls. Sell it to me.
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Its a big, wide open RPG that gives you the freedom to do whatever you like in a fictional world that is well crafted and feels lived in. How you decide to play is how your character develops, because your skill levels go up when that skill is used. When you level, you choose to put points in either Health, Magicka, or stamina and then pick a perk (soon I'll put up the perk trees for people).
It will be a massive game with a lot of quests, guilds, lore, crafting etc.

They are some of the most immersive games ever made, but require a little investment in the early stages to get going.
 
Drainy would you recommend I bother waiting to upgrade my rig or should I just swallow my pride and opt for the 360 version?
 
RedKaos said:
Drainy would you recommend I bother waiting to upgrade my rig or should I just swallow my pride and opt for the 360 version?
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The 360 version looks fine to me, maybe a few blurry rock textures and a little tiny bit of a draw distance issue for small objects like grass and bushes etc.

The PC version will obviously look a lot better (although no usage of dx11 features at launch), and will have mods.
Its really a personal choice, both look very viable so get which you'd prefer to play on at the cost of upgrading.

I'll be getting it on 360, at least at launch but if I buy a better PC in the future I'll probably get it for that and start it all again :lol:
 
Bah, no you're tempting me to just opt for the console version....something I'd regard unthinkable a week ago. I like the idea of picking up the PC version some time down the line.

Incidentally are there major differences between the 360/PS3 versions? My Live account is a little buggered with those pesky Chinese hackers.
 
For people who want to know the perks or plan out their characters here is a list of the perks and the structure of the 'skill trees'

Combat

Two-handed http://i.imgur.com/GCcXB.jpg
Heavy Armor http://i.imgur.com/SqCiX.jpg
Block http://i.imgur.com/N2PgW.jpg
Onehanded http://i.imgur.com/Cvs3K.jpg
Archery http://i.imgur.com/Xokhk.jpg
Smithing http://i.imgur.com/ZZhwL.jpg

Magic

Illusion http://i.imgur.com/KZ5pj.jpg
Restoration http://i.imgur.com/Rz63t.jpg
Conjuration http://i.imgur.com/1AF6L.jpg
Enchanting http://i.imgur.com/DYbiS.jpg
Destruction http://i.imgur.com/3Zt3B.jpg
Alteration imgur: the simple image sharer

Stealth

Alchemy http://i.imgur.com/NFOcU.jpg
Pickpocket http://i.imgur.com/1wVaJ.jpg
Speech http://i.imgur.com/MHh4Z.jpg
Sneak http://i.imgur.com/XreS4.jpg
Light Armor http://i.imgur.com/JGju6.jpg
Lockpicking http://i.imgur.com/QjVeJ.jpg

Reference and credits in the main thread
Layout of perk trees - Bethesda Softworks Forums

Edit: Skyrim:Races - UESPWiki
 
RedKaos said:
Bah, no you're tempting me to just opt for the console version....something I'd regard unthinkable a week ago. I like the idea of picking up the PC version some time down the line.

Incidentally are there major differences between the 360/PS3 versions? My Live account is a little buggered with those pesky Chinese hackers.
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The console version is fine, I've been watching a live stream and there's no real issues other than the recording quality! :lol:
That said, the PC version will clearly be the best, I have no doubt about that.
When PC gamer played the PC version a month or so ago, they were literally creaming themselves over it.

Having seen people play for the game for a while, I have no doubt that this game will live up to the hype.

We haven't seen any PS3 footage that we know about yet, only people I've heard comment on it have a vested interest in saying its great. ie Pete Hines, the devs and PS3 magazines.

The official line is that its as good as the 360 version, but take that for what its worth.
 
Found a proper list of racial abilities.
Full List of Racial Bonuses - Bethesda Softworks Forums

Argonian

+10 Lockpicking, +5 Restoration, Alteration, Light Armor, Sneak, Pickpocket.

Histskin : Invoke the power of the Hist to recover health ten times faster for 60 seconds.

Resist Disease : Your Argonian blood is 50% resistant to disease. Water Breathing : Your Argonian Lungs can breath underwater.

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Breton

+10 Conjuration, +5 Alchemy, Illusion, Restoration, Alteration, Speech

Dragonskin : Absorb 50% of magicka from hostile spells for 60 seconds.

Magic Resistance : Breton blood grants a 25% resistance to magic.

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Dunmer

+10 Destruction, +5 Alchemy, Illusion, Alteration, Light Armor, Sneak

Ancestor’s Wrath : For 60 seconds, opponents that get too close take 8 points per second of fire damage.

Resist Fire – Your Dunmer blood gives you 50% resistance to fire.

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Altmer

+10 Illusion, +5 Conjuration, Destruction, Restoration, Alteration, Enchanting

Highborn : Regenerate magicka faster for 60 seconds.

Highborn : High Elves are born with 50 extra magicka.

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Imperial

+10 Restoration, +5 Destruction, Enchanting, Heavy Armor, Block, One-Handed

Voice of the Emperor : Calms nearby people for 60 seconds.

Imperial Luck : Anywhere gold coins might be found, Imperials always seem to find a few more.

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Khajiit

+10 Sneak, +5 Alchemy, One-Handed, Archery, Lockpicking, Pickpocket

Night Eye : Improved night vision for 60 seconds.

Claws : Khajiit claws do 15 points of damage.

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Nord

+10 Two-Handed, +5 Smithing, Block, One-Handed, Light Armor, Speech

Battle Cry : Target flees for 30 seconds.

Resist Frost: Your Nord blood gives you 50% resistance to frost.

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Orsimer

+10 Heavy Armor, +5 Enchanting, Smithing, Block, Two-Handed, One-Handed

Berserker Rage : You take half damage and do double damage for 60 seconds.

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Redguard

+10 One-Handed, +5 Destruction, Alteration, Smithing, Block, Archery

Adrenaline Rush : Stamina regenerates 10x faster for 60 seconds.

Resist Poison : Your Redguard blood gives you 50% resistance to poison.

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Bosmer

+10 Archery, +5 Alchemy, Light Armor, Sneak, Lockpicking, Pickpocket

Command Animal : Make an animal an ally for 60 seconds.

Resist Disease and Poison : Your Bosmer blood gives you 50% resistance to poison and disease.

Not gonna change my choice for this game, but there are some great bonuses this time around. High Elves (Altmer), Orcs (Orsimer), Dark Elves (Dunmer), Argonians and my favourite, the Bretons look very strong.
 
I like lockpicking bonuses coz I hate not opening a door or a chest :lol:


Anybody got any experience of buying games from Tesco Direct? I found a code for £5 off on that hotdeals site.
 
Having not played Oblivion, Morrowind or any of the earlier ones, but still being ridiculously excited about Skyrim for some reason, I am not entirely sure how my character will look. I'm not entirely sure how the system works. In "these" (very broadly) games, I'm usually a mage type character (WoW, Dragon Age, etc). What kinds of magic are there? What can I viably do, etc?

Then again, I played other games (like KotOR) with a complete fighter type, so I might go that way too. I have no idea.
 
niMic said:
Having not played Oblivion, Morrowind or any of the earlier ones, but still being ridiculously excited about Skyrim for some reason, I am not entirely sure how my character will look. I'm not entirely sure how the system works. In "these" (very broadly) games, I'm usually a mage type character (WoW, Dragon Age, etc). What kinds of magic are there? What can I viably do, etc?

Then again, I played other games (like KotOR) with a complete fighter type, so I might go that way too. I have no idea.
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There are multiple 'schools' of magic in Skyrim.

Destruction (damaging spells. Fire is highest damage, Frost slows the enemy and drains stamina, Lightning also damages magicka (but does the least damage))
Alteration ('manipulation of the world'; shield spells, telekinesis, paralysis etc)
Restoration (healing, warding off the undead and buffing)
Illusion (manipulating the minds of NPCs, making them like you more, concealing your location, making them attack each other)
Conjuration (Summoning allies, raising undead allies, or conjuring weapons)

theres also Enchanting and you could also class Alchemy as having magical elements.

All play styles look viable this time, as long as you have some ranged element of your damage style. Dragons look like they would be a pain if you don't use spells, or a bow since they bomb about all over the place.
 
niMic said:
Can you realistically mix up magic schools? Like some Destruction, some Conjuration, some Restoration, etc? Or will it be too weak overall?
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Yeah, you can mix it up. In fact thats my plan to focus on those 3 skills (plus Alteration)

Every time you level you get 1 perk point, that you can spend specialising in the Skill trees. The soft level cap is 50, so you'll end up with around 49 perk points. Each tree is around 10-14 points so theres room for fully filling plenty of the skills.
 
On top of that, you can buy/find amulets and rings and whatnot which can improve your base skills.
 
Badunk said:
Yeah you can. I had 100 skill in Conjuration and something else (plus Alchemy).
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Yeah, I should clarify. You can max out all 18 skills if you want, just by using those skills you will get better at it, theres no cap on how many skills you can get to 100.
This will give you a well rounded character, but the perks are what makes your character very powerful at higher levels. You can probably max out 4/5+ skills with perks if thats how you want to play.

A soft level cap is the point at which leveling becomes slower.
The game is designed around levels 1-50, as you use your skills you'll level fairly quickly until you get to level 50.
Because they don't want to stop incentivising leveling and continuing to play as you gain skills beyond level 50, but it doesn't level anywhere near as quickly.
 
Something I'm curious about is how stealth/rogue type characters are going to manage in the game. I mean its not as if they can simply sneak behind a huge feckin dragon and start poking away with their daggers. How can you avoid direct confrontations from being awkward?
 
RedKaos said:
Something I'm curious about is how stealth/rogue type characters are going to manage in the game. I mean its not as if they can simply sneak behind a huge feckin dragon and start poking away with their daggers. How can you avoid direct confrontations from being awkward?
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Dragons are only one enemy in the game, they occur fairly often but can be avoided if you aren't confident. They require ranged abilities to get them down from the sky permanently at a good pace, so be good with a bow if you are an assassin or warrior (Although they do come down by themselves every so often), they seem to not do too much physical damage unless you stand right in front of them while they are on the ground, an assassin build will be very mobile at a decent level with plenty of stamina for sprinting and avoiding a head on confrontation. You can also use offensive Dragon Shouts if you have them or want to use them in this manner.

If you dual wield daggers you'll be missing out on some bonus damage against dragons from sneaking but your attack speed will be crazy if you pick the right perks and use the Dragon Shout: Elemental Fury (increase attack speed), although I'd recommend keeping Whirlwind Sprint (bomb forward instantly) if you end up in front of the dragon during a fire breath :lol:

You can also travel with a companion who will help you by 'tanking' and distracting if you choose.
 
Ahh, makes sense.

Right now I'm planning an mobile assassin type character with an emphasis on archery, sneaking, lockpicking, one-handed and perhaps some destruction for kicks. Am I at risk for gimping myself by spreading my specialities too far and thin?
 
RedKaos said:
Ahh, makes sense.

Right now I'm planning an mobile assassin type character with an emphasis on archery, sneaking, lockpicking, one-handed and perhaps some destruction for kicks. Am I at risk for gimping myself by spreading my specialities too far and thin?
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I don't think you are. I'd say plan your character for 49 perk points, and go from there.
I posted all the Skill Perk Trees earlier in the thread.

One handed skill has a maximum of 12 useful perks for a dagger user http://i.imgur.com/Cvs3K.jpg
Archery has 16 http://i.imgur.com/Xokhk.jpg
Sneak has 13 http://i.imgur.com/XreS4.jpg
Lockpicking has 11 http://i.imgur.com/QjVeJ.jpg
Destruction has 14 but i doubt you'll be specialising deep in that. http://i.imgur.com/3Zt3B.jpg

But not all of them will be useful to you, I wouldn't pick the higher skill power attack bonuses for one handed for that build (apart from Dual Savagery)

Lockpicking seems to have some useless perks that you may want to drop until you run out of things you want.
 
Drainy said:
I don't think you are. I'd say plan your character for 49 perk points, and go from there.
I posted all the Skill Perk Trees earlier in the thread.

One handed skill has a maximum of 12 useful perks for a dagger user
Archery has 16
Sneak has 13
Lockpicking has 11
Destruction has 14 but i doubt you'll be specialising deep in that.

But not all of them will be useful to you, I wouldn't pick the higher skill power attack bonuses for one handed for that build (apart from Dual Savagery)

Lockpicking seems to have some useless perks that you may want to drop until you run out of things you want.
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Yeah I was only planning on picking the Dual wield perks from one-hand, and the fire perks from destruction. I'm keen to max out on archery and lockpicking though since those are two things I can see myself doing predominantly.
 
I don't see any issue with that. In fact if you use a range of different skills you are more likely to go beyond the level 50 soft cap and get even more perks than just 49.

I'm actually running tight for perks with my build.
Destruction specialising in fire, Alteration, Restoration, Conjuration specialising in Atromancy and a bit of enchanting, focusing on armour slot enchants.
 
I'm also wondering how important racial stats are.

I've always assumed that once you get past a certain level the racial bonuses become obsolete. In which case shouldn't racial abilities be more of a important factor in deciding race?
 
This is especially true in Skyrim, the low level skills seem to level very quickly if you have the right Guardian Stone for the 20% bonus to skill gains. I wouldn't look too deeply at all at the starting stats.

Personally, I don't think theres a race that is terrible for racials this time, but there are a lot of very strong ones!
 
Peasplease said:
Hopefully majoring your character in archery doesn't make your character weak as feck this time.
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Bows are more powerful than they were in Oblivion but they take longer to draw and fire.
If you don't hold it back long enough, your arrows don't fly off very far.
 
Right, I think I've got my character finally nailed down:

Race: Bosmer

Perks: Archery, One-hand, Sneak, Lockpicking, Illusion....and some Alchemy.
 
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