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Watching that clip and i conclude, he's the Dutch Morten Gamst Pedersen
new John OShea?Can play at both flanks and can also play in midfield.
I'm still undecided about which number to "put my money on", I keep guessing between 21 and 31.Shirt number 21 I'm guessing?
no just Alexander Buttnernew John OShea?
'He looks like a thug and an imbecile. He'd actually look right at home in a Liverpool kit next Agger, Škrtel et al.Can you post it in here? Some of us can't access that forum. #FreeNilsson
Why is that? This is a guy who has played in a champions league final mind you.I read a few times in the other thread that he'll be our cover for years to come, even when Fabio returns.
Needless to say, we have no idea how Fabio will do here. I love the twins to bits, but clearly Fabio is a few years away from even looking like a United regular.
Buttner may end up being better than what's expected of him. I just don't think people should just shrug him off as "just a cover for Evra". If Fabio has a nightmare loan, you have to ask the question - what will happen to him?
I've never watched Buttner play, so he may be absolutely dog shite. But it did annoy me how some on here just completely blew him off as just being a passenger without even knowing what type of player he could transform into.
Not every unknown player we sign is a Bebe. Some end up as a Hernandez.
not that I'm saying either were, but I find RvP to be more of a "panic buy" than Buttner, although both have "a case".Looks like a panic buy to me.Lets see how this plays out.
I doubt many would have had Hernandez as Mexico's best striker too when we signed him.Bit worried that our own scout only rated him 3rd or 4th best leftback in Holland. Also, even more worrisome, is this third party that required a cut of the transfer fee. Suspiciously like the Bebe deal, this one sends out some bad vibes
Exactly, players automaticaly get in ahead of others if they're playing at a top club, then again you have to be skillfull in order to play for a top club. That or just be a nobody, in which case you're not getting games any way.I doubt many would have had Hernandez as Mexico's best striker too when we signed him.
A 'panic buy' that we've been planning for over 6 months?not that I'm saying either were, but I find RvP to be more of a "panic buy" than Buttner, although both have "a case".
Are you trying to say that you don't live in Netherlands? Either that or you're not an expertLiving in Holland and being an expert on De Eredivisie I should know lots about him. The truth is that I'd never even heard of him before yesterday. Hope this helps.
Lul niet zo slap = don't talk bollocksAre you trying to say that you don't live in Netherlands? Either that or you're not an expert
Definitely some bad juju. It does cast a bit of a dark cloud over the transfer. Only natural to be concerned about a player vs a posse.Anyone see this?
Also, even more worrisome, is this third party that required a cut of the transfer fee. Suspiciously like the Bebe deal, this one sends out some bad vibes
You're satisfied by something United have done!?I know nothing about this Buttner guy but he seems to be fairly experienced, versatile and cheap. Under such circumstances that's exactly what we need.
Yeah, I don't quite get what's this all about either really. Would people really expect the best left backs in the dutch league to be happy warming the bench at United in 95% of the games? Getting a seemingly decent backup for Evra for very little money is a great piece of business as I see it. Fabio is most likely still the most likely to take over from Evra, but he needs game time to improve, so getting another young (and experienced) backup while Fabio isn't at the club seems ideal. Even if it doesn't work out we can probably sell him for almost as much as we paid (THINK ABOUT THE RESALE VALUE!).Third or fourth best left back in Holland is not that bad. He is only here as cover, we can't expect Ashley Cole to play second fiddle to Evra! You don't always have to buy the best players and at 23 he has a lot of room to improve.
that's why I wrote it down as a "panic buy" not a panic buy, as it obviously wasn't a last minute sort of deal, BUT Fergie himself did just very recently say he never expected something like this, as he though he would always stay at Arsenal, I doubt he'd then be sure for such a long period of time after saying something like that.A 'panic buy' that we've been planning for over 6 months?
RVP adds a bit more to the squad than this lad though. Buttner seems to essentially be cover but I don't understand where he's going to fit in and what this means for Fabio. Surely Fabio should be chosen ahead of him? I don't think he's too far away from being there yet.not that I'm saying either were, but I find RvP to be more of a "panic buy" than Buttner, although both have "a case".
He says that every scout, has to write out top 10 lists for every position in a team and then submit it. So I don't think that scouts list is anything that important. Most clubs have scouts in individual nations giving out recommendations and lists and i'm sure it's up to the more senior scouts to go watch him more closely.Manchester United scout Ed van Stijn has revealed that Alexander Buttner was "third or fourth" on his list of the best left-backs in Holland.
Can you share the source for this?He says that every scout, has to write out top 10 lists for every position in a team and then submit it. So I don't think that scouts list is anything that important. Most clubs have scouts in individual nations giving out recommendations and lists and i'm sure it's up to the more senior scouts to go watch him more closely.