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For the overtaking under yellow? Didn't Ferrari say it might not have been a yellow flag?
Bernie wanted Vettel to win...How Vettel got away with no penalty's today is a better question.
Who was also an excellent driver back then and should've probably won a world title. The Ferrari may have been more competitive but he still did an excellent job in it.Ferrari had a competitive car that season. Lewis Hamilton absolutely bottled it at China. Massa, was probably the faster driver of the two by the end of the season.
In 2008, Massa was simply superior to Kimi.
That is all we need to know about Kimi. Got out-muscled on and off the track by Massa.
I thought it was a yellow flag, what about the first lap crash.For the overtaking under yellow? Didn't Ferrari say it might not have been a yellow flag?
Vettel should have 2 penalties, will get none and wins the title by cheating and thanks to having an insane amount of luck and easily the best car for large parts of the season.I thought it was a yellow flag, what about the first lap crash.
If Hulkenburg deserved a drive though, why not Vettel?
Penalties for what?Vettel should have 2 penalties, will get none and wins the title by cheating and thanks to having an insane amount of luck and easily the best car for large parts of the season.
that's just an outright lie, Maldonado, Grosjean and others have definitely been punished for first lap crashes.You never get penalised for incidents in L1, there's too much going on.
Pat Fry has said the flag was yellow and red, indicating a slippery track, rather than yellow flags. I've no idea, though.
causing a crash and overtaking under yellows.Penalties for what?
Yup, at max I say he'll get to 4th place in the championship.Next season is going to be a tough one for Lewis, cant see the Mercedes being able to fight for the top spots.
Will be an interesting season thats for sure.
It's not a lie at all, don't be so fecking dramatic, perhaps 'never' was too strong, but Stewards give far far more leniency during first lap incidents, and it was a racing incident, which wasn't worthy of a penalty anyway. Senna himself called it a racing incident, too, by the way.that's just an outright lie, Maldonado, Grosjean and others have definitely been punished for first lap crashes.
the replay on Sky it shows a yellow light glaring out over them as Vettel goes past...
Why wouldn't Race Control investigate it firstly, people are clutching at straws which aren't even there.To all the people claiming Vettel overtook under a yellow - if that were true why the feck would Ferrari do nothing about it?
Jesus, it's way to early to predict. No one will know anything until that first test in Jerez on the 5th February so I wouldn't worry yet.who is going to stop The Finger making it 4 in a row.
Alonso is the main threat. I think.
What about Lewis, can he challenge if Mercedes can pull a decent car together?
I don't think there is any chance of Mercedes suddenly scrambling together a title winning car. Hamilton in a McLaren car with increased reliability would have been a contender, For now I think it will be down to Alonso or actually Ferarri. I think it will be too much for Alonso to pull off another season like this from this kind of car. They need to deliver a car which is equal to RBR.who is going to stop The Finger making it 4 in a row.
Alonso is the main threat. I think.
What about Lewis, can he challenge if Mercedes can pull a decent car together?
5:40 clearly shows that he did overtake under a yellow. The green was before that when he didn't overtake.So there was a random green light in between loads of yellows...
http://www1.skysports.com/formula1/video/12870/8282348
3:42 onwards.
Hmmmmm. Kobayashi pitting is irelevant, you do not pass under Yellows full stop and who's to say him pitting wasn't a direct result of being overtaken anyway? Must say I really don't like that, I can't quite believe why Ferrari wouldn't protest it, its a World Title at stake!So there was a random green light in between loads of yellows...
http://www1.skysports.com/formula1/video/12870/8282348
3:42 onwards.
I would be surprised if Mercedes contend, which is a shame for Hamilton as he does deserve to be up there. Maybe the year after.who is going to stop The Finger making it 4 in a row.
Alonso is the main threat. I think.
What about Lewis, can he challenge if Mercedes can pull a decent car together?
Sergio Perez is replacing Hamilton at McLaren, they announced it just after he signed for Mercedes.I would be surprised if Mercedes contend, which is a shame for Hamilton as he does deserve to be up there. Maybe the year after.
I think it'll be the same two again. It'll be interesting to see what happens with the now new McLaren seat. I haven't really been up to date so any news on that?
No one should have to endure that
I don't give a rats ass. If there's a punishment, it should be at the time of the race. Not wait until the end and then appeal when there's nothing more Vettel can do, like some people were hoping.Did you watch the video, Amir? He overtakes under a yellow flag. Some people are hoping he gets punished, but others are simply wondering why he seems to have got away with it.
I think they are wrong, he clearly passed on a yellow flag, but the race is finish and passed now.The stewards have confirmed to Martin Brundle that it was a yellow and red flag for a slippery surface.
So do you have the same feelings regarding retrospective red cards in football? By your reckoning the 8 match ban handed out by the fa to Ben Thatcher for his assault on Pedro Mendes shouldnt have been given, theres a reason why when the race finishes its called a 'provisional race result', put simply he broke a rule and should be punished, if its after the race and causes him to lose the title then so be it, what if the pass had happened on the last lap? Do they just ignore it because the race has finished?I don't give a rats ass. If there's a punishment, it should be at the time of the race. Not wait until the end and then appeal when there's nothing more Vettel can do, like some people were hoping.