Ballboy jumps to defense of a football.
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I have seen it many times where players, particularly goalies, will tell a ball boy to either hurry up or slow down. At Newcastle the ball boys seem to be very young and hardly able to throw/kick a ball further than a couple of feet so having a 17 yr old as in this case would be welcomed.
Spinning mate. I foresee questions in the Commons about this.
Not when Evra got 4 matches for row with their groundstaff. Especially as United think they produced club backed lies in the FA hearing.
This thread could be renamed to "12 Angry Men 2013".
Please watch this video and you can clearly see from the way that the ball comes out that it was kicked and wasn't "on the other side of the boy" as you keep suggesting, before Hazard volleys him in the ribs and the ball rolls free.
It doesn't happen every week cos we have never before seen a ballboy collapsing on a football and smothering it in a deliberate bid to waste time.
Hazard shouldn't have tried to kick it out but anyone suggesting that he kicked the kid as his primary objective is an absolute Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime.
Nevin and Owen say on the matter.
However, both former Chelsea striker Pat Nevin and current Stoke forward Michael Owen said the ball boy was also at fault.
Owen was one of several players to convey his opinion on Twitter. The former England forward said the ball boy's reaction to the incident was "scandalous".
"I maintain my opinion from last night. How people can claim Hazard assaulted a kid is embarrassing," said the 33-year-old, who has scored 40 goals for England.
"He shouldn't have kicked the ball out of his grasp, but he hardly booted the lad as some people were suggesting. The lad's antics were scandalous and no wonder he isn't taking any further action."
No, but he did try to stamp on the poor lad after...
Please watch this video and you can clearly see from the way that the ball comes out that it was kicked and wasn't "on the other side of the boy" as you keep suggesting, before Hazard volleys him in the ribs and the ball rolls free.
It doesn't happen every week cos we have never before seen a ballboy collapsing on a football and smothering it in a deliberate bid to waste time.
Hazard shouldn't have tried to kick it out but anyone suggesting that he kicked the kid as his primary objective is an absolute Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime.
I beg to differ, I believe the government should encourage kicking and start a "kick when you want, who you want" campaign. Any instance someone doesn't give you anything you demand, just kick the fecking shit out of them. People who do not kick for no reason should be called fannies. Kicking should be a symbol of manhood. Hazard should be the poster boy for the campaign.
Kick, Kick, Kick....everyone should just fecking kick everyone. England should be renamed Kickland.
Come on England, Come on World....KICK
Ball boy really is a twat looking for his moment of fame.....I think Hazard will just get a 3 game ban for kicking out even though its what most people would have done.....Would love it if the FA saw it differently though and threw the book at him
You'd have thought so wouldn't you.Obviously not the brightest footballer out there.
Nah that'd probably be taking things a bit far.
If it was an opposition player he was trying to get the ball off, who fell over on the ball to have Hazard kick at him he would have been sent off. Maybe players should stop rolling about feigning injury and young boys/mini adults would stop trying to copy them.
I'm actually surprised Hazard didnt go down asking for a penalty.
And that really is saying something.......
Obviously not the brightest footballer out there.
Rofl Bookmakers offering odds on the length of Hazard's ban. I would expect anything from 3 to 5 games.
If this sort of thing starts happening at Wimbeldon we'll know who to blame!
Real men would've done exactly what Dwayne suggested. Shame Chelsea players don't fit the bill.
Obviously not the brightest footballer out there.
I suggested it once.
Please watch this video and you can clearly see from the way that the ball comes out that it was kicked and wasn't "on the other side of the boy" as you keep suggesting, before Hazard volleys him in the ribs and the ball rolls free.
It doesn't happen every week cos we have never before seen a ballboy collapsing on a football and smothering it in a deliberate bid to waste time.
Hazard shouldn't have tried to kick it out but anyone suggesting that he kicked the kid as his primary objective is an absolute Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime.
It's very simple. The ballboy is clearly a bit of a twat, we can all see that. What you seem to ignore is that he didn't even get a chance to waste time before Hazard is up his arse trying to get the ball off him. The ballboy then falls over, maybe he dived, maybe he felt a touch and went down, like Hazard does most weeks. Who knows? Anyway, he went down and lay on the ball. Hazard then tries to wrestle it away from him, so ballboy, thinks "nah, feck that. I'm doing my job, it's my job to return the ball to the goalkeeper taking the goalkick, not this fella here". (obviously not really, he was doing it to waste time) So he holds on and doesn't let Hazard have the ball. Hazard then kicks out. Now, what was his intent? Was he kicking the ball? Maybe. Was he kicking ballboy? Maybe. Did he care if he kicked both? Doubtful.
All this could have been prevented if Hazard had have just let the ballboy return the ball. It wasn't a Chelsea ball so he'd no need to be involved in the incident. Yeah, the ballboy was acting the pillock when he fell on the ball and wouldn't move, but Hazard was a twat for kicking out. What he did was stupid. It isn't really comparable to the Cantona incident, which is why I haven't made that comparison. I also haven't said he should be banned for life, or for months because it isn't the most violent incident i've ever seen on a football field. I'm not outraged or horrified by it.
Here's the but though, it isn't a normal reaction to being annoyed, and footballers can't go around kicking out at ballboys, whether trying to kick them or the ball they aren't giving back, or otherwise just because the result isn't going their way and they're a bit annoyed. He deserved his sending off and will deserve the 3/4/5 game ban or whatever he gets, mostly for being a stupid twat who thinks he can do what he wants because he's a footballer.
Got to be more than the standard 3 for violent conduct as this is surely one of those exceptional circumstances the FA talk about. Probably add another game to the 3.
It's not really about the physical, more the psycological damage done to the poor boy, and indeed the game as a whole.
Please watch this video and you can clearly see from the way that the ball comes out that it was kicked and wasn't "on the other side of the boy" as you keep suggesting, before Hazard volleys him in the ribs and the ball rolls free.
It doesn't happen every week cos we have never before seen a ballboy collapsing on a football and smothering it in a deliberate bid to waste time.
Hazard shouldn't have tried to kick it out but anyone suggesting that he kicked the kid as his primary objective is an absolute Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime.
Hazard fecked it up by reacting this way, but does anybody honestly feel bad for the ball boy?
he was being a bitch, and with tentions as high as then you just don't do shit like that.
In any case if that happened to us there'd be a different tune to this on here.
he was being a bitch, and with tentions as high as then you just don't do shit like that.
In any case if that happened to us there'd be a different tune to this on here.
I'm still laughing at this. It's all just....so....stupid.
Sky have gone bonkers - 'Swansea through to the league cup final... bit that's not the story'. Of course it fecking well is.
I suspect no one gives a stuff about the ball boy, nor do people truly care about the incident. Hazard was red carded, yay! And Chelsea lost, jah! That's all that matters.
Yeah but it's a tabloid TV channel. Its best football pundit zooms in on players' faces before making irrational opinions.
This is bigger than football now pete!
feel a bit sorry for Swansea, what it quite possible the biggest day in there history has been spoilt by Hazard and this ball boy.
The fact that the League Cup Final is between 2 teams that nobody expect to be there,has been forgotten.
The fact that the League Cup Final is between 2 teams that nobody expect to be there,has been forgotten.
This is ridiculousWhat was the press reaction when Cantona went kung fu kicking?
I think the internet would've exploded.
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2013-01-24/fulham-boss-swansea-ball-boy-played-rugby-with-hazard/?
Fulham football manager Martin Jol accused a Swansea City ball boy apparently 'kicked' by Chelsea's Eden Hazard of "playing rugby" by holding on to the ball too long.
The Dutchman said: "I felt for Hazard, but you can't kick people. He (the ball boy) was playing rugby with him, so I can understand he wanted to get the ball."
The Cottagers boss added that the ball boy, understood to be 17-year-old Charlie Morgan, was "probably overage".
Jol said: "Our ball boys are between 10 and 12 years of age. I saw he was probably over-age, probably 21. A big boy, you know?"
Fulham football manager Martin Jol accused a Swansea City ball boy apparently 'kicked' by Chelsea's Eden Hazard of "playing rugby" by holding on to the ball too long.
The Dutchman said: "I felt for Hazard, but you can't kick people. He (the ball boy) was playing rugby with him, so I can understand he wanted to get the ball."
The Cottagers boss added that the ball boy, understood to be 17-year-old Charlie Morgan, was "probably overage".
Jol said: "Our ball boys are between 10 and 12 years of age. I saw he was probably over-age, probably 21. A big boy, you know?"
Not just that, but Benitez has been let off the hook for an appalling performance in terms of what we did on the pitch and his tactics.
Bringing on two defenders when we're chasing 2 goals in a cup semi-final?!?!
He seems absolutely incapable of changing a game tactically or with his personnel. How he and his minions in the media are making noises about being given the job full time is quite beyond me, given the fact that he's taken is down or out in almost every competition he has played in.
Things did explode....they were talking jail and suchlike! In fact he got jail, but had it rescinded!
What was the press reaction when Cantona went kung fu kicking?
I think the internet would've exploded.
You do realize the ballboy would never have been "smothering the ball" if Hazard had not gotten invovled right?
Please watch this video and you can clearly see from the way that the ball comes out that it was kicked and wasn't "on the other side of the boy" as you keep suggesting, before Hazard volleys him in the ribs and the ball rolls free.
It doesn't happen every week cos we have never before seen a ballboy collapsing on a football and smothering it in a deliberate bid to waste time.
Hazard shouldn't have tried to kick it out but anyone suggesting that he kicked the kid as his primary objective is an absolute Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime.
Look, I am not saying Hazard is some kind of animal or anything like that, but he is entirely to blame for the altercation. He got involved within a few seconds of the ball going out of bounds, and his involvement led directly to the kid being on the ground with the ball.
As I have said before, the apology has already taken place, he will get a game or two suspension maybe a fine, and that will be that.
Lol at some people suggesting an over 10 game ban.
Nice try. If it is over 5 games I'd be shocked.
It hasn't turned into quite the media storm we imagined, partly down to the fact both parties apologized and most people seem to be on the side of ' the ball boy was in the wrong, and they feel for Hazard, but Hazard was stupid and shouldn't have done that'
Which really is the non bias way of viewing it, I'm sure if Rooney did you would all be saying exactly that and not just 80% of you.
Its of course in United fans interest to hope Hazard is banned for as many as possible so that has a lot of bearing.
However do think for a second how much you hate the media bullying DDG before wishing it upon Hazard who is the same age. ( I am aware the incidents are completely different but wishing that kind of shit storm upon someone is only in exceptional circumstances)
Nice try. If it is over 5 games I'd be shocked.
It hasn't turned into quite the media storm we imagined, partly down to the fact both parties apologized and most people seem to be on the side of ' the ball boy was in the wrong, and they feel for Hazard, but Hazard was stupid and shouldn't have done that'
Which really is the non bias way of viewing it, I'm sure if Rooney did you would all be saying exactly that and not just 80% of you.
Its of course in United fans interest to hope Hazard is banned for as many as possible so that has a lot of bearing.
However do think for a second how much you hate the media bullying DDG before wishing it upon Hazard who is the same age. ( I am aware the incidents are completely different but wishing that kind of shit storm upon someone is only in exceptional circumstances)
I for one am traumatised by last nights events. I feel that only a 12 game ban for Hazard could sooth my emotional distress.
Fans are biased, I wouldn't let it get to you.
As he had a 15 game ban yet.
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2013-01-24/fulham-boss-swansea-ball-boy-played-rugby-with-hazard/?
Fulham football manager Martin Jol accused a Swansea City ball boy apparently 'kicked' by Chelsea's Eden Hazard of "playing rugby" by holding on to the ball too long.
The Dutchman said: "I felt for Hazard, but you can't kick people. He (the ball boy) was playing rugby with him, so I can understand he wanted to get the ball."
The Cottagers boss added that the ball boy, understood to be 17-year-old Charlie Morgan, was "probably overage".
Jol said: "Our ball boys are between 10 and 12 years of age. I saw he was probably over-age, probably 21. A big boy, you know?"
does Jole offer any explanation of why the ballboy ending up on top of the ball to begin with. Or is he another person who can't watch a video and see what happens? That the kid never had a chance to waste time until Hazard gets involved?
....well, I reckon Keano would have done something similar, only booted the twat of a ballboys head clean off. Now that would have been something the media could wank over...