Ballboy jumps to defense of a football.

[Danny1982]

Lol at some people suggesting an over 10 game ban.

Nice try. If it is over 5 games I'd be shocked.

It hasn't turned into quite the media storm we imagined, partly down to the fact both parties apologized and most people seem to be on the side of ' the ball boy was in the wrong, and they feel for Hazard, but Hazard was stupid and shouldn't have done that'

Which really is the non bias way of viewing it, I'm sure if Rooney did you would all be saying exactly that and not just 80% of you.

Its of course in United fans interest to hope Hazard is banned for as many as possible so that has a lot of bearing.

However do think for a second how much you hate the media bullying DDG before wishing it upon Hazard who is the same age. ( I am aware the incidents are completely different but wishing that kind of shit storm upon someone is only in exceptional circumstances)

Most of the United fans don't want the ban to be lengthy enough for him to miss the City game.. I agree that I expect the punishment to be in the region of 5 games, and wouldn't really complain if it's just 3, even though it makes Rooney's 2-match ban for swearing look even more ridiculous.

Also, I don't feel for Hazard, personally.. It's not like somebody attacked him and he retaliated, it was totally unnecessary from him.. However I don't feel for the kid either.

The DDG example is way off IMO.

 

[Alex99]

Lol at some people suggesting an over 10 game ban.

Nice try. If it is over 5 games I'd be shocked.

It hasn't turned into quite the media storm we imagined, partly down to the fact both parties apologized and most people seem to be on the side of ' the ball boy was in the wrong, and they feel for Hazard, but Hazard was stupid and shouldn't have done that'

Which really is the non bias way of viewing it, I'm sure if Rooney did you would all be saying exactly that and not just 80% of you.

Its of course in United fans interest to hope Hazard is banned for as many as possible so that has a lot of bearing.

However do think for a second how much you hate the media bullying DDG before wishing it upon Hazard who is the same age. ( I am aware the incidents are completely different but wishing that kind of shit storm upon someone is only in exceptional circumstances)

Do you not think the kicking of a ball boy is an exceptional circumstance?

 

[kf]

Lol at some people suggesting an over 10 game ban.

Nice try. If it is over 5 games I'd be shocked.

It hasn't turned into quite the media storm we imagined, partly down to the fact both parties apologized and most people seem to be on the side of ' the ball boy was in the wrong, and they feel for Hazard, but Hazard was stupid and shouldn't have done that'

Which really is the non bias way of viewing it, I'm sure if Rooney did you would all be saying exactly that and not just 80% of you.

Its of course in United fans interest to hope Hazard is banned for as many as possible so that has a lot of bearing.

However do think for a second how much you hate the media bullying DDG before wishing it upon Hazard who is the same age. ( I am aware the incidents are completely different but wishing that kind of shit storm upon someone is only in exceptional circumstances)

I predict 4 games. They can't leave it at 3, that would make it open season on ball boys... hysterically funny though this all is, Hazard isn't really guilty of anything more than being incredibly stupid. Not only did he invite the red card (even if you think he only wrestled with the kid and kicked the ball from under him, it's still a pretty obvious red card), he managed to waste more time than the ball boy was ever going to manage. As soon as I saw it last night, when I could say anything between the laughter, I said he's off if they've seen that. My only disappointment was that Rafa hasn't made a right arse of himself by backing Hazard to the hilt. Pity.

Kenny would have had t-shirts made and everything.

As a few others have said in here, the whole incident has diverted discussion from Rafa's mystifying tactics. Even after Hazard was sent off, he still went ahead with the Torres for Oscar substitution instead of taking a more defensive player off. Did Chelsea have a shot in the last ten minutes?

 

[Wonder Pigeon]

Is there a point when stupidity in football is going to hit a peak and then decline for a bit, or do we have to put up with this nonsense in increasing amounts forever and ever?

 

[Erentz]

Apologies if this has already been posted, too many pages to go through to find it, still amusing for those who haven't played yet.

http://www.mousebreaker.com/games/dontboottheballboy/playgame

 

[Danny1982]

Apologies if this has already been posted, too many pages to go through to find it, still amusing for those who haven't played yet.

http://www.mousebreaker.com/games/dontboottheballboy/playgame

I scored the lad three times..

 

[204Red]

Apologies if this has already been posted, too many pages to go through to find it, still amusing for those who haven't played yet.

http://www.mousebreaker.com/games/dontboottheballboy/playgame

"and the crowd are going to have to give the lad back"

 

[Rozay]

Was watching the game last night and I thought that ball boy is an absolute disgrace. I personally attach no blame to Hazard myself, he clearly tried to kick the ball away from the ball-boy (who has the job of returning the ball) - and even if he touched him, his reaction was embarrassing. Ridiculous level of attention seeking. Refused to get up until somethign big was made out of it, and then took to twitter as soon as he got his result. The referee should not have indulged him. Hazard obviously has to apologise because of the publicity, but I doubt he's sorry and he shouldn't be.

Don't get me wrong, if he actually kicked him. I mean, kicked him, I would be saying differently. But there was barely any contact and the overraction has said a lot about the state of football and the British public in general these days,bunch of reality tv, uneducated folk always in the hunt for some sort of sensational headline. 'You can't kick him, he's just a kid'. get a fecking grip.

Rant over.

 

[Danny1982]

Was watching the game last night and I thought that ball boy is an absolute disgrace. I personally attach no blame to Hazard myself, he clearly tried to kick the ball away from the ball-boy (who has the job of returning the ball) - and even if he touched him, his reaction was embarrassing. Ridiculous level of attention seeking. Refused to get up until somethign big was made out of it, and then took to twitter as soon as he got his result. The referee should not have indulged him. Hazard obviously has to apologise because of the publicity, but I doubt he's sorry and he shouldn't be.

Don't get me wrong, if he actually kicked him. I mean, kicked him, I would be saying differently. But there was barely any contact and the overraction has said a lot about the state of football and the British public in general these days,bunch of reality tv, uneducated folk always in the hunt for some sort of sensational headline. 'You can't kick him, he's just a kid'. get a fecking grip.

Rant over.

How do you know the kick didn't really hurt the kid?

 

[esmufc07]

Was watching the game last night and I thought that ball boy is an absolute disgrace. I personally attach no blame to Hazard myself, he clearly tried to kick the ball away from the ball-boy (who has the job of returning the ball) - and even if he touched him, his reaction was embarrassing. Ridiculous level of attention seeking. Refused to get up until somethign big was made out of it, and then took to twitter as soon as he got his result. The referee should not have indulged him. Hazard obviously has to apologise because of the publicity, but I doubt he's sorry and he shouldn't be.

Don't get me wrong, if he actually kicked him. I mean, kicked him, I would be saying differently. But there was barely any contact and the overraction has said a lot about the state of football and the British public in general these days,bunch of reality tv, uneducated folk always in the hunt for some sort of sensational headline. 'You can't kick him, he's just a kid'. get a fecking grip.

Rant over.

Pretty much how I see it to be honest.

 

[Rozay]

How do you know the kick didn't really hurt the kid?

Because I saw the kick with my eyes I suppose.

 

[Ruud10]

I would have a problem with anything more than a three game ban.

There was no malice or violent intent whatsoever.

 

[Rozay]

I would have a problem with anything more than a three game ban.

There was no malice or violent intent whatsoever.

Don't even think he should be banned at all myself. He's the victim in all this from where I'm sat.

 

[CassiusClaymore]

How do you know the kick didn't really hurt the kid?

Maybe because of the ridiculous face he pulled?

 

[Rowem]

Was watching the game last night and I thought that ball boy is an absolute disgrace. I personally attach no blame to Hazard myself, he clearly tried to kick the ball away from the ball-boy (who has the job of returning the ball) - and even if he touched him, his reaction was embarrassing. Ridiculous level of attention seeking. Refused to get up until somethign big was made out of it, and then took to twitter as soon as he got his result. The referee should not have indulged him. Hazard obviously has to apologise because of the publicity, but I doubt he's sorry and he shouldn't be.

Don't get me wrong, if he actually kicked him. I mean, kicked him, I would be saying differently. But there was barely any contact and the overraction has said a lot about the state of football and the British public in general these days,bunch of reality tv, uneducated folk always in the hunt for some sort of sensational headline. 'You can't kick him, he's just a kid'. get a fecking grip.

Rant over.

He hasn't been on twitter after the game. He was also returning the ball before Hazard got involved. They both reacted like idiots after that point.

 

[TheRisingSun]

does Jole offer any explanation of why the ballboy ending up on top of the ball to begin with. Or is he another person who can't watch a video and see what happens? That the kid never had a chance to waste time until Hazard gets involved?

The kid had been wasting time all night, he was boasting about how he was going to do it before the match on Twitter for feck's sake

He wasn't efficiently going about his business until nasty Eden came and pushed him over. Hazard tried to get the ball off him, he refused to give it in an act of gamesmanship and then collapsed on the floor on top of the ball - Hazard tries to get it out, spots it, toes it, pops it out the other side and walks off.

Only the ridiculous playacting of the kid and the reaction of the crowd got him sent off, the lino and referee were both about to play on until the players started kicking off.

Judging from some of the more ludicrous interpretations on the incident on here, there is still a lot of bitterness that Hazard snubbed United in the summer.

 

[Marching]

Was watching the game last night and I thought that ball boy is an absolute disgrace. I personally attach no blame to Hazard myself, he clearly tried to kick the ball away from the ball-boy (who has the job of returning the ball) - and even if he touched him, his reaction was embarrassing. Ridiculous level of attention seeking. Refused to get up until somethign big was made out of it, and then took to twitter as soon as he got his result. The referee should not have indulged him. Hazard obviously has to apologise because of the publicity, but I doubt he's sorry and he shouldn't be.

Don't get me wrong, if he actually kicked him. I mean, kicked him, I would be saying differently. But there was barely any contact and the overraction has said a lot about the state of football and the British public in general these days,bunch of reality tv, uneducated folk always in the hunt for some sort of sensational headline. 'You can't kick him, he's just a kid'. get a fecking grip.

Rant over.

You attach no blame to Hazard yet admit he kicked the ball away from the ball boy? That's what started the fecking farce. If he'd done what he was supposed to do...get back in position to face the Swansea goal kick...rather than stick his fecking nose in and then his boot we'd all be laughing at chelsea for losing to Swansea rather than talking about Hazard the dickhead.

 

[Drainy]

Don't even think he should be banned at all myself. He's the victim in all this from where I'm sat.

Even if the ballboy wiped his arse on the ball, called Hazard's mum a slag and danced around him clinging onto the ball, Hazard shouldn't have got involved.

He should have got the referee to deal with it, kicking the ball out from under someone and risking kicking them in the side, even if they are being a complete tosser, is not acceptable.

It is a red card and a 3/4 match ban.

 

[Sultan]

Shame Hazard did not kick him harder.

 

[Danny1982]

Because I saw the kick with my eyes I suppose.

I saw it too. It could very well have hurt him. Even if he missed him with the foot, he could have got him with the shin..

I'm not sure how hurt he was, but from the video alone you can't say for sure that the kid wasn't hurt, unless you really hated him..

 

[Redlambs]

The kid had been wasting time all night, he was boasting about how he was going to do it before the match on Twitter for feck's sake

He wasn't efficiently going about his business until nasty Eden came and pushed him over. Hazard tried to get the ball off him, he refused to give it in an act of gamesmanship and then collapsed on the floor on top of the ball - Hazard tries to get it out, spots it, toes it, pops it out the other side and walks off.

Only the ridiculous playacting of the kid and the reaction of the crowd got him sent off, the lino and referee were both about to play on until the players started kicking off.

Judging from some of the more ludicrous interpretations on the incident on here, there is still a lot of bitterness that Hazard snubbed United in the summer.

And there it is ,your true Chelsea fan colours.

You lot just can't see anything wrong with anything involving your players, especially scumbag big man. Even when you lie and pretend to see reason, you crack eventually. Duffer apart, you are very much like West Ham fans.

This has nothing to do with Hazard and not signing for us, and a ban for him hardly affects us now does it? Unless you think with him playing, you'll actually challenge?

He was stupid to get involved and deserved a red for it. The journos have jumped on it because your club have hardly covered themselves in glory over the past year or so have they? That's what it's really about, an easy target.

 

[togg]

The kid had been wasting time all night, he was boasting about how he was going to do it before the match on Twitter for feck's sake

He wasn't efficiently going about his business until nasty Eden came and pushed him over. Hazard tried to get the ball off him, he refused to give it in an act of gamesmanship and then collapsed on the floor on top of the ball - Hazard tries to get it out, spots it, toes it, pops it out the other side and walks off.

Only the ridiculous playacting of the kid and the reaction of the crowd got him sent off, the lino and referee were both about to play on until the players started kicking off.

Judging from some of the more ludicrous interpretations on the incident on here, there is still a lot of bitterness that Hazard snubbed United in the summer.

to be fair a lot of united fans agree that the ballboy was a prick, even more so today when better camera angles are being shown of the incident. This on top of the fact he's the son of one of the Swansea directors..I mean that is just not right.

Not really sure about the bitterness about Hazard. Maybe at the time...but we got RVP whose proved more than worthy to be honest!! The only mistake Hazard made was actually trying to kick the ball under the ballboy, it would have been better just to let the officials deal with it. However, in the heat of the moment, adrenalin running these things happen...just ask Cantona!!

 

[RK]

Been posted before, but it seems people still haven't seen it:

 

[TheRisingSun]

And there it is ,your true Chelsea fan colours.

You lot just can't see anything wrong with anything involving your players, especially scumbag big man. Even when you lie and pretend to see reason, you crack eventually. Duffer apart, you are very much like West Ham fans.

This has nothing to do with Hazard and not signing for us, and a ban for him hardly affects us now does it? Unless you think with him playing, you'll actually challenge?

He was stupid to get involved and deserved a red for it. The journos have jumped on it because your club have hardly covered themselves in glory over the past year or so have they? That's what it's really about, an easy target.

I agree that he was stupid to get involved and I said many times he shouldn't have done it and the 3 match ban will be ample punishment.

I have regularly criticised both the club and the players when I feel like criticism is due and I agree that the club has been run in a shambolic way recently. I tell it like it see it and as I see that, a mountain has been made out of a molehill.

 

[Sultan]

They should rescind his red card and give the ball boy a life time ban eating McDonalds.

 

[Crumpsall Red]

How do you know the kick didn't really hurt the kid?

er cos he said so afterwards ...... and we've got eyes

 

[Redlambs]

I agree that he was stupid to get involved and I said many times he shouldn't have done it and the 3 match ban will be ample punishment.

I have regularly criticised both the club and the players when I feel like criticism is due and I agree that the club has been run in a shambolic way recently. I tell it like it see it and as I see that, a mountain has been made out of a molehill.

I agree with that. This is a better post than your last one.

But yeah, it's all blown out of proportion, the FA should just uphold the red card and that be the end of it.

Unfortunately it won't though, as per usual this bollocks will drag on and on.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

I hate Chelsea, I dislike Hazard and I'd love to see them under fire, but Hazard didn't do anything wrong and the ball boy is to blame 100%. I think most people would have tried to get the ball back.

 

[McGrathsipan]

When I first saw it I was thinking this is up there with Kung Fu Eric for drama and controversy.
The more I look and see what really happened, especially the clip from the far side when you see that ball popping up,the way the alleged assault victim feigns pain and his twitter shite, the more I think Hazard is getting pilloried for feck all.
Red Card?? I don't even know if it was any more.

He is silly to have gotten involved because he will feel the full force of negative red top tabloids now!

 

[Sultan]

When I first saw it I was thinking this is up there with Kung Fu Eric for drama and controversy.
The more I look and see what really happened, especially the clip from the far side when you see that ball popping up,the way the alleged assault victim feigns pain and his twitter shite, the more I think Hazard is getting pilloried for feck all.
Red Card?? I don't even know if it was any more.

He is silly to have gotten involved because he will feel the full force of negative red top tabloids now!

Finally some much needed perspective.

 

[kf]

When I first saw it I was thinking this is up there with Kung Fu Eric for drama and controversy.
The more I look and see what really happened, especially the clip from the far side when you see that ball popping up,the way the alleged assault victim feigns pain and his twitter shite, the more I think Hazard is getting pilloried for feck all.
Red Card?? I don't even know if it was any more.

He is silly to have gotten involved because he will feel the full force of negative red top tabloids now!

We can all see the ball boy was a bit of a twat but frankly, by the rules, that's one of the clearest red cards you'll ever see. Once he'd been made aware of what happened, Foy had no choice but to send him off. Just the grappling with the ball boy, regardless of the kick and whether he made contact, is enough to send him off. Hazard was just mind bogglingly stupid and probably doesn't know the Laws of the Game.

 

[JustAFan]

The kid had been wasting time all night, he was boasting about how he was going to do it before the match on Twitter for feck's sake

He wasn't efficiently going about his business until nasty Eden came and pushed him over. Hazard tried to get the ball off him, he refused to give it in an act of gamesmanship and then collapsed on the floor on top of the ball - Hazard tries to get it out, spots it, toes it, pops it out the other side and walks off.

Only the ridiculous playacting of the kid and the reaction of the crowd got him sent off, the lino and referee were both about to play on until the players started kicking off.

Judging from some of the more ludicrous interpretations on the incident on here, there is still a lot of bitterness that Hazard snubbed United in the summer.

Watch the whole incident again, the kid hardly had time to waste before Hazard was over sticking his nose in, essentially causing the time wasting. He never should have gotten involved, let the officials handle it. The incident never would have happened had he behaved professionally. The red was deserved, he will not get more than a game or two supension and he has already apologized. As has the kid. Even Hazard knows he took it too far and was wrong.

As far as bitterness you might want to read my other comments not once have I called Hazard any names over this incident. So sorry but using that as some kind of defense is lame.

 

[McGrathsipan]

We can all see the ball boy was a bit of a twat but frankly, by the rules, that's one of the clearest red cards you'll ever see. Once he'd been made aware of what happened, Foy had no choice but to send him off. Just the grappling with the ball boy, regardless of the kick and whether he made contact, is enough to send him off. Hazard was just mind bogglingly stupid and probably doesn't know the Laws of the Game.

I've only actually paid attention to the incident?
Where was the ref and who made him aware of what went on if he didn't see it?

Is grappling a red card? We see it all the time on the pitch.
We also see referees interpreting the rules as they want to, every week, so it's not as clear as you might think.

For me Its probably the kicking motion that sealed the red card and the ref can only Judge what he saw in real time(if he saw it).
And I admit in real time it looked like an atrocious incident and I'd have sent the player off too.

Hazards epic fail was the kicking motion.
He really should've known that the kicking motion Directed towards a person could be hammed up and pain faked etc.
After all the pros do it all the time.... What do they expect kids to do

 

[kf]

I've only actually paid attention to the incident?
Where was the ref and who made him aware of what went on if he didn't see it?

Is grappling a red card? We see it all the time on the pitch.
We also see referees interpreting the rules as they want to, every week, so it's not as clear as you might think.

For me Its probably the kicking motion that sealed the red card and the ref can only Judge what he saw in real time(if he saw it).
And I admit in real time it looked like an atrocious incident and I'd have sent the player off too.

Hazards epic fail was the kicking motion.
He really should've known that the kicking motion Directed towards a person could be hammed up and pain faked etc.
After all the pros do it all the time.... What do they expect kids to do

Foy was running back up the pitch in preparation for the goal kick to be taken which is frankly what Hazard should have been doing. It's been reported that one of the assistants told Foy what happened but personally I suspect it was the fourth official having seen the replays... another interesting aspect as they're not supposed to do that in theory but if it's good enough to send Zidane off in a World Cup final...

The laws say a player is "guilty of violent conduct if he uses excessive force or brutality against a team-mate, spectator, match official or any other person"

Even pushing a ball boy would be excessive force, a player shouldn't even touch a ball boy. Aiming a kick in his general direction is definitely excessive force. Clear red card. I was kind of hoping Rafa would contest it but even he isn't that stupid.

 

[The Neviller]

I would have a problem with anything more than a three game ban.

There was no malice or violent intent whatsoever.

How do you know his intent?

 

[The Neviller]

Don't even think he should be banned at all myself. He's the victim in all this from where I'm sat.

Hazard the victim? You must be on a wum.

 

[Swaters16]

We can all see the ball boy was a bit of a twat but frankly, by the rules, that's one of the clearest red cards you'll ever see. Once he'd been made aware of what happened, Foy had no choice but to send him off. Just the grappling with the ball boy, regardless of the kick and whether he made contact, is enough to send him off. Hazard was just mind bogglingly stupid and probably doesn't know the Laws of the Game.

Hazard had no reason to be over there anyone, which is an important point as well. The ball boy was getting the ball before Hazard raced over, knocked him down and then kicked him. It is a red any day of the week and he rightly should be banned. You just can't do it, no matter what.

 

[kf]

Hazard had no reason to be over there anyone, which is an important point as well. The ball boy was getting the ball before Hazard raced over, knocked him down and then kicked him. It is a red any day of the week and he rightly should be banned. You just can't do it, no matter what.

Yes, I said above one of the more stupid things Hazard did was waste more time than the ball boy could have hoped to waste! If he'd got back into position, Chelsea might have lost 10 seconds but they must have lost two or three minutes due to the time it took to send Hazard off. Foy added six minutes in total which include a few injuries and substitutions as well as the previous time wasting. It must have taken four minutes to send Hazard off!

 

[Rozay]

Hazard the victim? You must be on a wum.

He's the victim because of this current breed of pink bathrobe and pink fluffy slippers football fan that are attempting to crucify him for something so ridiculously trivial. The game is becoming a pantomime now. We have had outrage about play-acting, and it has become the norm to the extent where even ball-boys start rolling around in agony at any slight or supposed contact. Then of course, the game doesn't stop on the pitch - in between matches, the game is played on twitter.

I maintain that Hazard is the victim in this situation,, and the ball boy is the real perpetrator. However, I am most disappointed at the hoardes of grown men sharpening their daggers at Hazard. Go and watch Corrie.

 

[Redlambs]

Come on, it deserved a red card! You just can't do that.

Nothing more, nothing less.