He won it for himself and rightly so.
Wimbledon 2013
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I said already - cheering during a point. Cheering double points. Booing Djokovic for remonstrating with an umpire when Murray has done the same (and more) in the past without a peep from the crowd. I understand supporting your player, but like I keep on saying there is a line between what is acceptable and what is not. Be as loud as as intimidating as you want, but at the appropriate times.
Comparisons to football also shouldn't be made, it's a completely different environment.
Doesn't really explain or justify why someone would "hate" him.
Lets be clear, basically SAF won wimbledon, Murray helped him.
What is it with the bitterness in this thread following the two finals?
So you Brits hate Murray because he prefers to be referred to as Scottish? That explains a lot.
Actually he won it for himself. His nationality is irrelevant. Just nice to see the lad succeed when it's clear how much hard work he's put into his game.
feck knows, it's always great when there's new Wimbledon champions I feel. Finals apart it's been a superb tournament.
Such a great thing to see him end that 77 year wait. But it's also extremely sweet to taste the tears of the bitter little lemons who were desperate for him to fail 
in a relatively short space of time, olympic gold, US open Champion, Wimbledon champions.
in a relatively short space of time, olympic gold, US open Champion, Wimbledon champions.
Hate is a strong word I wouldn't use for 99.999999% of the world, so maybe "dislike" would be a better word. But "dislikers" isn't the same as "haters" is it?
He did, as does most sportsmen. But all those fans celebrated this win like a British victory, which everyone should be proud of. I was pointing out why some British fans may not see the same way.
They wouldn't be complaining about it had Murray lost
Only a small minority I'd say. And the little Englanders can be precious when someone doesn't support "Ingurland".
I wasn't a big fan of Murray's till the amount of underserved hate he got. He deserves this win
Murray is going to end up being knighted isn't he.
I give credit to Murray, the desire and the will to win was incredible today.
That said Djokovic was pretty abysmal. He made over 40 unforced errors and many times he let Murry back into the point. He couldn't close the point, yes a lot of that is Murray's determination to stay in the point but normally Djokovic puts those winners away all the time.
Murray should enjoy the celebrations they are deserved. Djokovic will be back, he is still the better player IMO and on another day it would have been different.
That said Djokovic was pretty abysmal. He made over 40 unforced errors and many times he let Murry back into the point. He couldn't close the point, yes a lot of that is Murray's determination to stay in the point but normally Djokovic puts those winners away all the time.
Murray should enjoy the celebrations they are deserved. Djokovic will be back, he is still the better player IMO and on another day it would have been different.
Hope he refuses it
There is only two things I hate in this world, racist crowds and the french crowds
Cameron: "Oh put that away Alec. Here, drink some Pimm's and smile at the cameras."
Poor Ed is missing out on a bloody good photo op right now.
It's a small minority that dislike him, I am happy for the lad.
Nationality shouldn't matter. He's not representing a team or a country specifically (unlike the Davis Cup). He's representing himself and himself only. It just so happens that he's a Scottish/British player. Support him because you like him or you like his tennis, because his nationality doesn't matter at all. It's why I'm completely amoral towards him - I far, far prefer Hewitt, Del Potro or Tsonga. But I don't dislike him like I do Federer or Safin.
Im a Brit. Im delighted for Murray. Because he's a brit.
Wimbledon champion and Olympic gold medallist, I'd say so. I'd also hope he doesnt get it this year, but at the end of his career to celebrate ALL his achievements rather than being overly reactionary to give it to him this year
He will win SPOTY this year.
A few retarded English people dislike Murray, most of whom it appears live in this thread. The vast majority of the country loves him and is ecstatic at his victory.
I class myself as English first so don't have a problem with that.
Fair play to him, to beat Djoko in three sets is an astonishing achievement.
Well deserved winner.
Well deserved winner.
Deservedly so. A true champion.
At least the lad has got the monkey off his back now. Onward and even more upwards for him.
Why would he need to be excused from being proud of his heritage?! If the English fans want to cheer on a Scotsman that's their business, it's not something he should try and hide just so they can find it a bit easier to get on board. Don't think Murray played that well today to be honest. It says a lot that he can be below-par and still beat the World #1 of course, I'm not taking anything away from his achievement, I just thought the main thing to take out of that game was Djokovic simply didn't play well enough to win a final. It really wasn't a great game of tennis.
As for the match itself, nothing should be taken away from Murray. Djokovic was far from his best and made many unforced errors, but Murray played some excellent tennis as well. Some of his shot selection was superb and he made some very, very good winners.
The quality of the match was overall, fairly good. It won't go down as a classic since Murray won in straight sets, however up until then, despite the long rallies there were some very good ones and some excellent points. The number of breaks made it exciting for me. Djokovic's first serve was weak, while Murray's second serve was still showing to be a weakness of his. When you've got two great returners playing each other, a weak serve is always going to mean lots of breaks.
Murray's mental strength was very strong. On other occasions he'd have crumbled when throwing away a break lead or going a break down, but he just wouldn't give up here. Even when he bottled it himself, he just constantly found ways back into it. Djokovic's mental attitude was strange. He seemed to throw it away at points of the match where he was in complete control, and found it again when he was down and out.
No one can take that away from Murray though; no one. The crowd weren't great but they cheered before points were won at times which equally affected Murray sometimes. The long match excuse can't be used for Djokovic as he's a machine of a player and isn't generally fatigued by long matches. And as I say, despite Djokovic being poor, Murray still played some very good tennis and deserved his win. Incredible scenes and I'm delighted for him.
The quality of the match was overall, fairly good. It won't go down as a classic since Murray won in straight sets, however up until then, despite the long rallies there were some very good ones and some excellent points. The number of breaks made it exciting for me. Djokovic's first serve was weak, while Murray's second serve was still showing to be a weakness of his. When you've got two great returners playing each other, a weak serve is always going to mean lots of breaks.
Murray's mental strength was very strong. On other occasions he'd have crumbled when throwing away a break lead or going a break down, but he just wouldn't give up here. Even when he bottled it himself, he just constantly found ways back into it. Djokovic's mental attitude was strange. He seemed to throw it away at points of the match where he was in complete control, and found it again when he was down and out.
No one can take that away from Murray though; no one. The crowd weren't great but they cheered before points were won at times which equally affected Murray sometimes. The long match excuse can't be used for Djokovic as he's a machine of a player and isn't generally fatigued by long matches. And as I say, despite Djokovic being poor, Murray still played some very good tennis and deserved his win. Incredible scenes and I'm delighted for him.
4 slam finals and 2 wins, and yet still people choose to say he didnt deserve it or he's not good enough
Think he will be become grand slam monster for the next 4 years.
Delighted for Murray, thoroughly deserved to win. Yes he's competing individually, but he's British as well as being Scottish. He won a Gold medal for Britain and ended the wait for a British player to win Wimbledon in his home country.
I'd have loved it if it all kicked off in the royal box, Cameron throwing a right hook right into Salmond's squishy face
Now if Westwood can just win the Open...
Not sure he will go on to dominate. But he will be certainly in contention in every slam for years.
I look forward to more matches with Murray and Djok
I look forward to more matches with Murray and Djok
Welshmen yesterday, a Scotsman today, a Kenyan in the cycling and now for South Africa to win the Ashes.
All celebrated by the English - it's like the Empire never ended.
All celebrated by the English - it's like the Empire never ended.
Hopefully they don't meet in more grand slam finals. They don't often have an entertaining match given their similar playing styles.
What is wrong with the crowd at the French Open?
Personally, I don't have a clue why tennis is a silent sport. Golf yes, tennis no. I'm not suggesting singing but people getting irate about the audience's excitement just seems pathetic to me. The reason why you get people shouting out is because they're restrained in an arena of really high pressure for hours at a time. Imagine having to be quiet in a football match.
Personally, I don't have a clue why tennis is a silent sport. Golf yes, tennis no. I'm not suggesting singing but people getting irate about the audience's excitement just seems pathetic to me. The reason why you get people shouting out is because they're restrained in an arena of really high pressure for hours at a time. Imagine having to be quiet in a football match.
Very good.Vicariously ?