You need to provide sources, man. Otherwise we'll lynch you.
Fabregas
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Reading your post again,I might have misunderstood you. Is vs was...
Nothing really, other then like all of us here they think there's no chance of it happening. Most of them are still crying about Thiago leaving as well.
It's on the PSG site, but it's just been tweeted now by the Barca Stuff twitter who usually post up to date stuff. PSG article says it's from yesterday.
"I've always said that I'm happy at Barça. Whoever says that I'm leaving doesn't know me and has never spoken with me," Fábregas said last month. "Nor with my agent, because he knows that I don't want him to talk with other people about me. If someone says anything that isn't that I want to play at Barca, it's completely absurd."
As ever I've consulted a journal from BMJ and discovered this:
To be fair, van Persie had that "little boy" screaming in his head.
I wonder does Fabregas suffer from a similar mental disease?
I'm not saying Rio isn't a Manchester United man.
Part of it is that Barcelona don't believe anyone would leave them by choice. Not only are they one of the great clubs, they currently have one of the greatest teams and they pay wages to match. Last year they had the biggest sporting wage bill in the world. This year they've dropped behind City, the NY Dodgers and Real Madrid. But still, the players aren't just playing for love and sunshine.
Not as much as the muppets on here though.... but gettin Fab would soften that blow incredibly
This is what i cant get my head around. He doesnt seem to be someone who'd leave barca so soon.
What do you think it is then? Both sky and bbc printing news they dont believe to be 100% true or do you think we're just too naive as a club and have lodged a bid without talking with the player's team first.
Don't you generally only see '% of next sale' clauses if they're buying from a smaller club who needs the money?
You're taking it out of context. United have bid for Fabregas, the bid hasn't been accepted, nor has Fabregas publicly said he wants to move. Obviously, I think it's fair to say that we most probably wouldn't have bid if we didn't think we could get him so there must have been at least some discussions with Fabregas' people. That doesn't necessarily mean Fabregas is open to the move though, either to us or Arsenal.
If he rejects us, this could be very embarrassing and shows us in a bad light.
Big risk this
Big risk this
Sky and the BBC print football shite all day long, I don't think you've made a bid at all.
yeah but you still probably also think the new stadium will help you compete financially and win trophies.
BBC generally don't go to press unless there's something in it.
The PA don't print shite and they've also said that we've made a bid.
Lets hope so man.Sidenote: I read at the time of the transfer, that Van Persie was a United fan growin up..
Not at all. We don't have much to lose and we can gain a player that knows English football like his pocket.
How will Fabregas rejecting us be embarrassing to us?
If he rejects us, we have been rejected by far better players in the past and it's no big deal. He missed his chance and we move on.
There's no risk at all.
Their budget was 50M and they blew 57M on Neymar. Abidal is off the wage bill but no transfer fee, Villa is 2 effective and 5 potential... Thiago was what? 25M? So budget inc. sales is 80M, leaving 23M for Thiago. They need another 20M from "somewhere".
I know, the wages they have got rid of are huge, but it doesn't matter. Barca have incorporated a fiscal rule whereby the Board are ejected or their positions are made very fragile if certain budget rules are not met, one of them being that 50M + income from player sales is all they can spend on players each year/Summer. I'm surprised they have managed to stay successful with the ridiculous Laporta-Rossell politics.
I cant read the twitter thread
I can sell you screenshots for five bucks each. Hit me up with a message if you are interested.
Yeah but if you look at it from another POV, both Cesc and Thiago reject us....It wouldn't exactly make us look good if you know what I mean
Wages, etc are things that'd be discussed later but as you said, unless fabregas has indicated his willingness to move, we wouldnt have made a bid. We'd be laughing stock if the player turned us down after weeks of haggling over fee.
I dont think they would at all but its still something I could believe. Us putting a bid in without being told by fabregas's team that he's interested isnt possible though.
So basically you're only 'referring' to the players that fit with your point, and we can't mention the others. We don't get 'players like' Benzema? RVP. We don't get 'players like' Nasri, Sneijder? Kagawa. Thiago? DDG.
The only point which you can actually make is that we don't get all the high-profile foreign players that we try for. And it would be a bit weird if we did.
You know this makes sense. Moyes has said his first signing at the new club has to be the right one
Could Barca be pushing him towards a move? I can't see United going blindly without researching both his availability and Barca's willingness to do a deal.
PS: This is all assuming these reports have any foundation.
There's absolutely nothing circumstantial to say Thiago rejected us.
They'd never won anything in their life, they came here to make a name for themselves. They'd probably look back on their career and say coming here was the highlight for them. Will Fabregas? I'm not so sure.
Most of the times yes, but not always. Real Madrid has a 50% of Garay's sale.
Thanks!
could be. i dont understand why they would after losing thiago though. I agree totally with your point though, in today's times, no club bids without ascertaining that the player would be open to move.
Rooney-Fabregas swap?
They call that the gossip column.
If they are, then their unrelenting pressurisation on Arsenal to sell him becomes even more of a joke that FIFA &/or UEFA should start doing something about. Both Real Madrid and Barca do it ceaselessly when they have decided they want a player.
High profile signings for in the last few years: RvP
High profiles signings against in the last few years: Sanchez, Lucas, Thiago, Nasri, Ozil, Sneijder. Probably more I've forgotten.
As good as De Gea, Kagawa, Hernandez and other signings have been, they are not high profile are they?
Yes we know that but it's been reported and everyone in the football world has read about it. Say for example, the two players are reported to have rejected us like this. So quickly after each other. It does put the club 's attraction in a bad light. And I could see a lot of other players thinking "Well why the feck would I join them then if others are rejecting them then?"
It's just a thought that came into my head. It's an interesting way of looking at things
That would be fab
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