Nah, come on. Where's the fun? Infact we can do a variation of 10th round, i.e. a 3 player pick without the block option!Nah from here on everything like we have seen in previous drafts.
The First Redcafe Sheep Draft
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I'll leave that for anto to try that in the next one, as it already seems he has a loads of surprises.
Oh come on, we should vote then, I agree with Edgar that the sheep format should be used for the reinforcements as well.I'll leave that for anto to try that in the next one, as it already seems he has a loads of surprises.
Not having the block would be much more balanced I think. The block pick made it a bit more of a lottery because you ended up with 30 potential blocks for each player, which is just too many for the number of players.
I actually had something planned - well planned is too strong a word maybe - for reinforcements.
I was going to categorize all of you according to the number of sheep you got so 0,1,2 and 3. And then run the random generator on each category and make the order with the list of those who had 0 sheep first and so on. Just as a last little stick for getting too many sheep, which I hinted earlier on.
From there on it would have been like earlier drafts, that is picking reinforcements in that order.
Balu vs Pol
Not bad, I'm sure we find something exciting for the reinforcement rounds
.It's not questioning his ability really. It's purely his peak was 100% tiki taka so if you want Xavi not playing tiki taka you are taking Xavi right before his peak. Still a great player, but Fabregas would edge it then.
Like? He is, you almost sound surprised!
One thing I always find hilarious with drafts is people keep assuming X has Y, C has D, etc. and so long as they are comparable it should be OK. Only Garrincha gets to dribble past people, and that's so long as it isn't Maldini. Else you need a huge disparity for dribbling/beating a man to happen.Some finishes thin the video where he dribbles past multiple defenders and scores is just
Yet you watch a proper game and it happens all the time.
I blame Ashley Young and Tony V.
No way, that should go to the first manager to win five drafts
He is Kenny Dalgllish for now.
I agree that Baggio and Shevchenko have the potential to get in the way of each other but I don't see Rui Costa being dragged into that. I see him in a very different role to the one Baggio will be occupying. If you look at Rui Costa's assist v Juve (0:10), that's how I expect things to shape up. Rui Costa using his range of passing to create things from deep while the front two stretch the opposition defence. People always talk about Baggio as a #10, and of course he was that, but he was a great forward more than anything. If we talk about Baggio at his peak then we're inevitably looking at Baggio in '94, and in his best performance of the tournament he was part of a strike partnership with Casiraghi rather than the link between attack and midfield. Asking Rui Costa to play the role he had at Milan and Baggio to play as he did in '94 will not be limiting them in any way, IMO, it's just giving them some direction on where to focus their talents. They're entirely capable of excelling in these roles as they've shown even if neither is playing as a classic free role #10.
Shevchenko on the other hand will have to be more of a foil for Baggio rather than being the focal point of the attack so we're unlikely to see him in Ballon d'Or winning form, but allowing him to focus more on goalscoring isn't necessarily such a bad thing. He's Milan's 2nd highest goalscorer of all-time more than anything because of his aerial prowess and sharpness in the box. I'd say at least a third of his goals came from headers and over half of his goals were typical predators' goals - the kind Baggio didn't score. So you're essentially limiting him to something he did exceptionally well.
Err, can play 26th or 4th, nothing in between. My annual romantic long weekend trip with the missus
Alright, and I guess no one would have an issue with speeding it up and having two games a day.Err, can play 26th or 4th, nothing in between. My annual romantic long weekend trip with the missus
I'm down with the 4th if MJJ and Viva are willing to swap.
I know Stob will find a strange arrow that will make it all work... or will find placing RvP slightly lower turns him superhuman.
God, I wonder now, having spent all that time clarifying roles, making pretty teamsheets for him explaining how it could all work IMO. Remember thinking it could come back to bite me in the arse
God, I wonder now, having spent all that time clarifying roles, making pretty teamsheets for him explaining how it could all work IMO. Remember thinking it could come back to bite me in the arse
Jayvin vs Thisistheone - 24 Feb
Edgar Allan Pillow vs Snipers Breath - 24 Feb
crappycraperson vs Pippa - 26 Feb
Stobzilla vs antohan - 26 Feb
Balu vs Polaroid - 27 Feb
Chesterlestreet vs Gio - 27 Feb
Cutch vs sullydnl - 28 Feb
MJJ vs VivaJanuzaj - 28 Feb
Is that fine, going with 2 games a day?
Edgar Allan Pillow vs Snipers Breath - 24 Feb
crappycraperson vs Pippa - 26 Feb
Stobzilla vs antohan - 26 Feb
Balu vs Polaroid - 27 Feb
Chesterlestreet vs Gio - 27 Feb
Cutch vs sullydnl - 28 Feb
MJJ vs VivaJanuzaj - 28 Feb
Is that fine, going with 2 games a day?
I do well in the first stage, its the write ups that screw me over. The match itself is so fecking tedious.I know Stob will find a strange arrow that will make it all work... or will find placing RvP slightly lower turns him superhuman.
God, I wonder now, having spent all that time clarifying roles, making pretty teamsheets for him explaining how it could all work IMO. Remember thinking it could come back to bite me in the arse
I'm going with a different tactic, I refuse to be overtly detrimental towards my oppo in any future matches I play, the hyperbole kills me. I'm just going to focus on why my team works.
I'm good with my date, I can play on the 24th and 26th as well, in case someone wants to switch, can't play on the 28th though.
The original plan was to have Guardiola-Redondo-Mendieta but that didn't work out. I want the fullbacks to have as much license to get forward as possible, and having the 2 destroyers in there will help enable that to happen. I will be looking to mix things up if i progress further, possible someone like Redondo/Cocu instead of Dunga or Laudrup/Rivaldo instead of Mendieta perhaps but as of now i'm very happy with what i've got.
Up against Sully/NM you'll see that the majority of his play will be going through the middle with Essien/Kaka/Fabregas/Litmanen. Having M Silva-Dunga in there infront of the back will assist hugely. With Romario now added too, his movement and acceleration will be giving Nadal/Gamarra all sorts of problems.
Sure, I was saying it broke down the system/logic of it. It sure makes you stronger through the middle which in certain games here could really pay off, no doubt.
Aye i get what you're saying, but i'm not finished yet, still a work in progress. If i get the right man that can pair up with Mendieta infront of M Silva but can also be the right link man between Dunga-Silva and the attack it will give me 2 very good options to choose from depending on the opponent
Good stuff, what time are the games going to be at? I'll try to actually be online this time
Anto, i'm waiting on your predictions for all of the games. As soon as i hear who you're instantly writing off i'm away down to the bookies to put a big wager on them
That's actually quite fair as a surprise "sheep punishment". There has to be an incentive after all.
Thanks for being so considerate with the missus and getting the draft out of my mind before the weekend
That said, Stob seemed to prefer the 4th. I'm easy if it makes a difference for him.It sounds fair but i'm not sure if i'd rather be start/middle/end for reinforcements. There's probably little difference
I tried to steer clear of mentioning Rui Costa, firstly because of what you say, but more importantly simply because the diamond requires a player like Rui Costa to be involved. You were always going to have an attacking midfielder and in that sense Rui Costa is only relevant to the extent that he has influenced the formation. Beyond that its minimal differences really, there is nothing wrong with him as an AM and it was always going to be a player of that type. In fact Rui Costa's ability to pull deeper than alternative AM's actually has the potential to make that front two work better. I don't think it is a significant difference but as a minor point I think it is true.
Basically what I am saying there is that Rui Costa is not a problem - you need a player like him or it ceases to be a diamond. The potential problem is the one I mentioned previously i.e. Baggio and Shevchenko overlapping in their approach to the match and positions they will take up. As you know it was Sheva pulling deep and running the channels behind Inzaghi or Crespo and this is the sort of movement we see Baggio make time and time again. Although their styles differed and Sheva of course never had the technical proficiency of Baggio he was a complete striker who was never pinned down into a particular role.
Here I think the potential issue is that they could overlap and you lack that threat in the box. You have hit the nail on the head though and its clear we're on the same wave-length - it would be Sheva playing the advanced role which mitigates this somewhat. You sacrifice a small piece of his all round game but he could certainly play a clearer number 9 role.
I would have preferred a Sheva/Batistuta front two though personally. The constant movement and running of Shevchenko works so well as the deeper striker in a diamond formation which can potentially become quite static. I'm interested in reading the thread though, I love Baggio so no doubt he will make it work.
Considering where my reinforcements could come from... sully/NM
Considering we are going with 2 games a day 4th would be too late.Thanks for being so considerate with the missus and getting the draft out of my mind before the weekend
Is it just 26 for you or anytime before 26? @Stobzilla are you okay for 26th?
Considering where my reinforcements could come from... sully/NM
No tactical voting you cnut TBH, being first last time actually screwed me royally. It's a wee bit different here though in that there won't be tonnes of superstars and unfinished teams, more balanced teams which need a few finishing touches, going earlier would likely make a bigger difference than it did then.
Never done it. But there's always a first time for everything lulzy
Yeah man, all good.
Haha
I'm rather pleased with the draw, nothing against MJJ&Rpitroda who drew really well but I think I have an excellent chance of winning.
@AldoPaine18 @MJJ Is there any chance we can have our game on Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday? Friday and Thursday are really bad for me..
And another question, Aldo perhaps you can make a list of whose assisting each manager? So we can really check that no one is double teaming someone in the match day thread or voting double?
@AldoPaine18 @MJJ Is there any chance we can have our game on Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday? Friday and Thursday are really bad for me..
And another question, Aldo perhaps you can make a list of whose assisting each manager? So we can really check that no one is double teaming someone in the match day thread or voting double?
I think player for player I match up favourably against Antohan. The problem is gonna be his gift of the gab. It should be fairly even in that sense.
Well player vs player is never the real way to check it..
Folks how about some predictions for the matches?
Jayvin vs Thisistheone - 24 Feb
Edgar Allan Pillow vs Snipers Breath - 24 Feb
MJJ vs VivaJanuzaj - 26 Feb
Stobzilla vs antohan - 26 Feb
Balu vs Polaroid - 27 Feb
Chesterlestreet vs Gio - 27 Feb
Cutch vs sullydnl - 28 Feb
crappycraperson vs Pippa - 28 Feb
Swapped your game with crappy - pippa, hope others are okay with it.
As for AM, I guess we have 4. NM for Sully, rpitroda for MJJ, Brwned for Pillow and KM for Stob. Anyone else?