Juan Mata | 2013/14 Performances

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Welbeck is proven that he can score goals when he plays in his prefer position during Rooney and RVP absent. Not to mention we have Chicharito. And also Wilson and us are looking forward for his debut. We could get a winger instead to improve our wingers I thought if we signed Cabaye (cheaper) we could fill in the position of set pieces if RVP and Rooney injured and centre midfield was exactly what we need to improve.

Di Maria is a winger originally. Jesse has a quality to be winger because he's quick and can beat players. And not to mention Morata and Jesse consider as a great young players which don't mind to sit on the bench for Ronaldo and Bale. I can see Wilson want to sit on the bench but I can't see Kagawa, Welbeck and Hernandez want just sit on the bench.

As for Isco. That's why they sold Ozil. Even Bale too. They even sold Higuain as well. We didn't sell our attackers and just put them like a huge mountain of attackers try to get a same spot of starting eleven

No wonder why Jovetic didn't get enough playing time even when Aguero got long injury. City also usually play with two strikers to be partner with Aguero and play 4411 or 442 with Aguero. Navas is most likely a natural winger. While Nasri is like Adnan Januzaj. Attacking mid but has the quality to play as a wingers or wide players. I consider Milner as a centre midfield or wide midfielder.
Well if someone doesn't want to sit on the bench then they either prove to the new manager they deserve to play or are free to leave the club, this applies to Mata in the same way as to Hernandez, Rooney or Kagawa or whoever.
 

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Well if someone doesn't want to sit on the bench then they either prove to the new manager they deserve to play or are free to leave the club, this applies to Mata in the same way as to Hernandez, Rooney or Kagawa or whoever.
That's why I thought we should give the manager time. And the reason why Moyes didn't sell anyone yet because he wanted to give them chance to prove them self. And now we changed to a new manager. Do we need to let the manager do the same thing? Giving the players chance again to prove themself. Keeping Young and Nani and Anderson? And keeping 6 players who fight for the same spots. I was thinking to sell some of them so we don't have a huge squad which make the other players unhappy or caused headache for a manager to select their own players. Try not to make a huge rotation.
 

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Real world class lifts a team, as RVP did so often last season.
He did it under Ferguson, big difference. I also doubt we spent that much money on a player, for him to be used as a rotational option. He could have stayed at Chelsea if that's the case.
 

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That's why I thought we should give the manager time. And the reason why Moyes didn't sell anyone yet because he wanted to give them chance to prove them self. And now we changed to a new manager. Do we need to let the manager do the same thing? Giving the players chance again to prove themself. Keeping Young and Nani and Anderson? And keeping 6 players who fight for the same spots. I was thinking to sell some of them so we don't have a huge squad which make the other players unhappy or caused headache for a manager to select their own players. Try not to make a huge rotation.
It depends on the manager. Moyes is not LvG. If the new manager gets results and performances then he is the best to decide who to sell. Hopefully he gets rid off Young anyway, all the others are fine. It's all speculation anyway, the new manager won't have a fixed formation but will be more flexible.
 

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It depends on the manager. Moyes is not LvG. If the new manager gets results and performances then he is the best to decide who to sell. Hopefully he gets rid off Young anyway, all the others are fine. It's all speculation anyway, the new manager won't have a fixed formation but will be more flexible.
Well, anyway I just can't wait for Ryan Giggs's first selection team. Let's see how he sets up the team today. And also next season who will be in charge and what he's going to do with our team.
 

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After what Scholes said about Mata not being as effective on the wing as he is down the middle, I very much doubt we'll see him on the wing, especially as we lack dynamic midfielders to cover for him. Today we could will probably see two of Nani, Januzaj, Welbeck or Valencia on the wings, with Mata behind Rooney. The thing is, I haven't got a clue what Giggs and co. will do when RVP's back from injury.
 

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After what Scholes said about Mata not being as effective on the wing as he is down the middle, I very much doubt we'll see him on the wing, especially as we lack dynamic midfielders to cover for him. Today we could will probably see two of Nani, Januzaj, Welbeck or Valencia on the wings, with Mata behind Rooney. The thing is, I haven't got a clue what Giggs and co. will do when RVP's back from injury.
Use RVP as a sub and not risk him for Van Gaal
 

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Watching Jamie Redknapp talking about his lack of pace. Why is that such a big talking point among the media regarding Mata?

They speak about him like he sprints like Gareth Barry or Mertesacker. Mata cannot sprint fast but he seems to have a quick burst that can take him past a player.

Also, if he's being played centrally behind the striker then his pace isn't vital.
 

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He did it under Ferguson, big difference. I also doubt we spent that much money on a player, for him to be used as a rotational option. He could have stayed at Chelsea if that's the case.

Are you saying Van Gaal won't get the same out of RVP? IF, he can regain his fitness, he'll be as driven as last season. Surely his motivation was to win things, which is why he came from Arsenal? It wasn't SAF who motivated RVP, it was RVP himself.

Moyes overspent on Mata - Van Gaal will not be told who to play or, to pick a team on the basis of a players transfer fee.
 

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Are you saying Van Gaal won't get the same out of RVP? IF, he can regain his fitness, he'll be as driven as last season. Surely his motivation was to win things, which is why he came from Arsenal? It wasn't SAF who motivated RVP, it was RVP himself.

Moyes overspent on Mata - Van Gaal will not be told who to play or, to pick a team on the basis of a players transfer fee.
There is no confirmation Van Gaal will be our manager for the upcoming season. I was only referring to Mata that a player of his quality should start or be sold. He is too good to be on the bench, that's the reason why he left Chelsea in the first place. If we are working with a player behind the striker, mata should be our man, simple as. He is superior to Kagawa and Rooney in that role.
 

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Surprisingly no Mata in Giggs's first starting eleven selection.
 

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Holy shit, these ridiculous sounding leaks and rumors usually turned out to be bullshit in the past... now they all turn out to be true.

Giggs doesn't rate Mata...
 

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Absolutely ridiculous not to play him. Giggs must have something against him. He's world class and the team should be built around him going forward.
 

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Hmm think it might be a case of having to accommodate Welbeck into the side today, especially because of the news about him being unhappy. That's maybe why he's dropped Mata to the bench?

Also looking at his team selection today, I think he's picked a few of the players who have been heavily criticised, maybe a case of getting these players to restore some confidence. I'm surprised about Mata not being picked though.
 

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Hmm think it might be a case of having to accommodate Welbeck into the side today, especially because of the news about him being unhappy. That's maybe why he's dropped Mata to the bench?

Also looking at his team selection today, I think he's picked a few of the players who have been heavily criticised, maybe a case of getting these players to restore some confidence. I'm surprised about Mata not being picked though.
All Manchester United players have been heavily criticised this season
 

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Absolutely ridiculous not to play him. Giggs must have something against him. He's world class and the team should be built around him going forward.
Disagree. Mata was a player we never needed. He may be good but there's no point trying to shoehorn him in. He lacks pace. Giggs wants pace and width. Pretty simply really.
 

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Hmm think it might be a case of having to accommodate Welbeck into the side today, especially because of the news about him being unhappy. That's maybe why he's dropped Mata to the bench?

Also looking at his team selection today, I think he's picked a few of the players who have been heavily criticised, maybe a case of getting these players to restore some confidence. I'm surprised about Mata not being picked though.
Nothing to do with unhappiness, but Welbeck has pace. He's going to stretch their backline, quicken our play and make space for others. Mata for all his talents exacerbates our pedestrian play at times.
 

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Can't imagine Mata or Fellaini being much part of giggsys plans if he wants pace in the side. This is what I hate about churning the squad with manager changes, if Giggsy got the job permanently then 65m worth of transfers are useless to us. Really hope he has a way to include them in the coming weeks or the summer speculation will be horrible
 

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Watching Jamie Redknapp talking about his lack of pace. Why is that such a big talking point among the media regarding Mata?

They speak about him like he sprints like Gareth Barry or Mertesacker. Mata cannot sprint fast but he seems to have a quick burst that can take him past a player.

Also, if he's being played centrally behind the striker then his pace isn't vital.
They all love Mourinho and now are desperate to prove he was right to sell him! If he had sold Oscar instead they would be saying similar stuff about him.
 

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Disagree. Mata was a player we never needed. He may be good but there's no point trying to shoehorn him in. He lacks pace. Giggs wants pace and width. Pretty simply really.
Really don't get how some people are surprised by his exclusion.
 

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Kagawa is playing. Kagawa is not pacey. Neither is Rooney. Mata's better than both of them.
This. This "pace" argument sums up British football and the media. We need intelligent footballers as well as pace. Valencia is lightening, yet has the brain of an actual fish. We should be making a formation to suit Mata, as a 10, there's nobody better in the world.
 

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This game is crying out for quality in the final third. Surely he's got to bring Mata on in the second half.
 

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Play your best players in their correct positions and they will flourish. Not rocket science.
 

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15 players have played more than him in the league this season. He's now 4th in goal scoring and 2nd in assists.
 

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Can't believe we have had wankers saying Mata has been shit. It's just been because he was a Moyes signing so he had to be a failure. He's been mostly excellent for me. One of our few players who always looks comfortable on the ball. I'd build the team around him.
 

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Delighted for him. Play him in his correct position next year and we'll get the best out of him.
 

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I'd be happy if we built the team around him. I think he's a great player.
 

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Great confidence boost.

Fun fact: He's never scored a hat-trick at senior level.
 
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