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Rooney's misses influenced the final results of both games. Taken together with his average link-up play yesterday which failed to bring in game the other attacking players, they kind of cancelled out the contributions he made. Therefore, IMO, his performances didn't make a real difference.
Deserved candidate to be England captain. It will mean the haters putting him even more blame on him though.
Thank God
Well, I did say I was playing devil's advocate somewhat.
You're talking like he had one of his best ever games.
To be fair, his difficulty finding form after injuries might go in the "cons" column, rather than be used as an excuse. Suarez showed him how its done.
Yeah this is definitely my thoughts. After the Italy game I criticised him a lot but honestly I realised that I can't expect him to reach heights he simply cannot attain anymore. Last night he clearly tried and had a good game but ultimately he just doesn't have it in him to increase a teams level like he used to.
It's all about the sponsorship deals, he'll milk the England cow for as long as he can.
True, but that might just be down to basic genetics, rather than any kind of failing on Rooney's part. Not really his fault if he is naturally pre-disposed to being (ahem) well built.
Where was Ronaldo? Lets see how it is this year, although he clearly looks injured. Look at WC top performers last time and this time around. For example, Muller. What is he doing? Does he win games on his own, does he look head and shoulders above the rest? Does he increase team's level? Blah--blah-blah.He is better than the bold in my opinion.
Leaving aside the likes of Ibra, Bale and Toure, you're really saying that you think Wayne Rooney is currently a better player than Luis Suarez? I would genuinely love to know what you're basing that on.
Messi was very subdued at the last world cup compared to his club form. Even the very best players need help. Its a team game after all.England never gonna get anywhere while people even suggesting this "increase teams level" stuff. Does even Ronaldo do it at WC? Last WC Portugal only scored against North Korea
No, he just plays good. And that is what everybody else in Germany team is doing. And that's why the guy scores buckets. Look at last WC Holland was in the final yet RVP hardly scored for them.
You can look at it as manifestation of a "Liebig's barrel" law in a way. The one about the limiting factor being more important than the average of resources available. If every person in your team is at least good. Then your star player can have just a good enough game and you still will win it.
He could play them in a 3-4-1-2 similar to how Holland play but Rooney really will have to justify his worth for the manager to think about those formations especially when we are shallow in defensive options. If his pace is not upto the task and he's not aggressive enough, Van Gaal will cannot carry both him and Mata in the line up and Mata easily trumps Rooney in terms of touch, vision, quality on the ball and any technical attributes.
I agree. It'll be interesting to see how it all works out.
Mate if you've played the game you would know closing your eyes as Rooney did ain't heading it's just getting struck on the head. He was less than a yard out and over the ball if he had his eyes open it was a nod in, he needed to be braver.
That's just a ridiculous comment.
There are many ways to do it. One of which is a formation Holland using currently. Then how did Uruguay fit Cavani and Suarez together up front? They also had Lodeiro a bit deeper. How did France managed to fit in Benzema and Giroud together? And Valbuena is quite similar to Mata as well.
That's arguably going to be LvG's biggest challenge, I hope he goes with RvP or Rooney up top rather than trying to play both.
If you'd actually played a game you would know that there is little you can do to control a header like that when you are fighting for it and heading with much interference. It's different when you are allowed a free header with acres of space.
What level do I need to have played at to have a differing opinion to you? Wpuld Mourinho's opinion not count?
This is why I can't understand the fuss about Suarez. He missed two decent chances, and for me that cancels out the two goals he got. No real positive impact on the match.
Nobody really heads the ball with eyes open you know. Unless you've got a brain that isn't functioning
Sorry mate is your device playing up that made no sense at all. The bit about fighting for the header come over but you couldn't be more wrong he was behind the fella in pole position!If you'd actually played a game you would know that there is little you can do to control a header like that when you are fighting for it and heading with much interference. It's different when you are allowed a free header with acres of space.
But after "strike on goal was shocking in slow mo" you can't really complain about a his header interpretation. The next thing you say is that his cross to Sturridge for Italy game was a crap one, cause great players would cross it straight to the feet, but Sturridge did extremely well to adjust and pit home an extremely uncomfortable cross.
You deny your own claims just look at that photo it's harder to miss than score.What level do I need to have played at to have a differing opinion to you? Wpuld Mourinho's opinion not count?
The ball is moving away from him. Very hard to judge.
Reckon you'd have scored this? Are you Andy Carroll?
You've never played have you?
