Morgan Schneiderlin

[andersj]

Would be a perfect replacement for Carrick.

 

[Speak]

Starts tonight for France. He's class, in my opinion. Very composed and smooth on the ball, can go past a man. He's mature, disciplined and just does his job (a bit of everything) quietly.

I'd have him here without a doubt.
It's not going to happen as Southampton aren't going to completely sell themselves into the Championship, and I don't think he's even on our radar. But Assuming Herrera comes, he's the sort of player who'd not only do a solid job going back, but he'd also be technical enough to really bounce off him and give him the ball in tight areas as well as receive it.

They could play some good intricate stuff in tight areas, giving us a new dimension.

 

[The Mitcher]

Everyone would have every midfielder, after Fellaini, I am now a lot more apprehensive.

 

[Speak]

Everyone would have every midfielder, after Fellaini, I am now a lot more apprehensive.

The difference being that Fellaini doesn't have a midfielder's brain or technique.

 

[Giggsforever]

Said it for a long time, we should by him. He will not cost to much either, we could probably have gotten a good deal on both him and Shaw.

 

[Keeps It tidy]

Said it for a long time, we should by him. He will not cost to much either, we could probably have gotten a good deal on both him and Shaw.

Look at our negotiations for Shaw. He would probably cost a lot.

 

[limerickcitykid]

Starts tonight for France. He's class, in my opinion. Very composed and smooth on the ball, can go past a man. He's mature, disciplined and just does his job (a bit of everything) quietly.

I'd have him here without a doubt.
It's not going to happen as Southampton aren't going to completely sell themselves into the Championship, and I don't think he's even on our radar. But Assuming Herrera comes, he's the sort of player who'd not only do a solid job going back, but he'd also be technical enough to really bounce off him and give him the ball in tight areas as well as receive it.

They could play some good intricate stuff in tight areas, giving us a new dimension.

I've sang his praises quite a bit before. Would have loved either him or McCarthy last summer. The way Southampton are looking though it'd be hard to convince them to sell. I love how he is so well rounded. Can play multiple roles, good on the ball, great at defending, energetic, physical, just a good all around game.

 

[Rooney in Paris]

Really like him. France were average last night, but he didn't put a foot wrong for 90 minutes. Nothing flashy, just getting the ball back and passing it cleanly. He's always very well positioned. Towards the end of the game after a corner, he got a ball at the edge of the box, avoided a challenge by the Ecuadorian and lined up for a volley, but it didn't come off at all, his body was leaning back so it went right above. Would've been nice to top off his good game with a winning goal, but wasn't meant to be.

Crazy to think the guy had never been selectioned for France a year ago, and now he's started a WC game at the Maracana! Well deserved imo.

 

[Speak]

He gave the ball away early on in the game and had a loose touch shortly after. He looked nervous and I was worried he'd go on to have a iffy game, but he regained his composure.

If anything the testimonial pace yesterday didn't allow him to showcase himself. It's in the fast pace of the league where he's looked really good.
He's a very good clean tackler.

 

[Lane]

I don't know about mistakes, but France with Schneiderlin looked much more out of sorts that it did when Cabaye played DM as a deep lying playmaker.

 

[Carl]

Quality player and proven in the Premier League. Would take him in a heartbeat.

 

[Rooney in Paris]

I don't know about mistakes, but France with Schneiderlin looked much more out of sorts that it did when Cabaye played DM as a deep lying playmaker.

Don't think it was Cabaye/Schneiderlin that was a problem, I think Valbuena was a bigger miss. However, Schneiderlin and Cabaye are very different, with the former you're going to get great defensive cover and a solid presence in the middle of the park, while Cabaye will be a bit more adventurous with his passing and sometimes his positioning.

You also have to note that Pogba and Benz had mediocre games, Digne wasn't great, Matuidi wasn't as omnipresent as he usually is... I don't know why France took it down a notch, maybe there was a psychological factor, but it wasn't a great game to analyze the collective performance I think (or at least to make definitive conclusions about it). Schneiderlin individually was fine, he did what was asked of him and gave Deschamps an option: a pundit explained that the team composition probably suggested this was a formation Deschamps might use against stronger opposition in the knock-out stages if France goes in front and wants to see the game out. Schneiderlin could provide that extra bit of strength in midfield, which is pretty crazy when you think that before last night's game, he'd played 4 minutes for France!

 

[Lane]

Don't think it was Cabaye/Schneiderlin that was a problem, I think Valbuena was a bigger miss. However, Schneiderlin and Cabaye are very different, with the former you're going to get great defensive cover and a solid presence in the middle of the park, while Cabaye will be a bit more adventurous with his passing and sometimes his positioning.

You also have to note that Pogba and Benz had mediocre games, Digne wasn't great, Matuidi wasn't as omnipresent as he usually is... I don't know why France took it down a notch, maybe there was a psychological factor, but it wasn't a great game to analyze the collective performance I think (or at least to make definitive conclusions about it). Schneiderlin individually was fine, he did what was asked of him and gave Deschamps an option: a pundit explained that the team composition probably suggested this was a formation Deschamps might use against stronger opposition in the knock-out stages if France goes in front and wants to see the game out. Schneiderlin could provide that extra bit of strength in midfield, which is pretty crazy when you think that before last night's game, he'd played 4 minutes for France!

Yes i realize they are very different and the shape of the team was different, and France missed some other key players, but still. I don't think it's a smart option to play him against stronger opponents. They have Matuidi who is well versed in defensive aspect of the game and Pogba is a box-to-box as well. So with Schneiderlin in the mix the only real game organizer is Valbuena who is used on the side.
Schneiderlin is rather good, but he is also a bit limited in a way he needs either a formations that suits him or a fitting partner/rs in CM.

 

[kouroux]

I liked his performance, not easy to have your first cap in a world cup match. He clearly was nervous and his mistakes showed but then again he brought a better defensive stability than Cabaye. I was happy with his general performance.

 

[goldenstatesplash]

Quality player and proven in the Premier League. Would take him in a heartbeat.

Definitely.

 

[Rooney in Paris]

Yes i realize they are very different and the shape of the team was different, and France missed some other key players, but still. I don't think it's a smart option to play him against stronger opponents. They have Matuidi who is well versed in defensive aspect of the game and Pogba is a box-to-box as well. So with Schneiderlin in the mix the only real game organizer is Valbuena who is used on the side.
Schneiderlin is rather good, but he is also a bit limited in a way he needs either a formations that suits him or a fitting partner/rs in CM.

I don't really agree to be honest. It really depends on what you want. Pogba and Matuidi are both box to box as you say, and while they are ok defensively, Matuidi especially, they don't give the whole team a defensive shape and tactical stability. Schneiderlin is very useful to sit back and break up attacks, much more than those two. He also theoretically frees them up for their more offensive attributes, which unfortunately didn't show last night as they both pretty much had an off night. Had Pogba buried a chance or two, had Matuidi shot anywhere but at the keeper when he was put through towards the end, I think the narrative would be a tad different.

Furthermore, I think it depends on what you want: I never said Schneiderlin should start against stronger opposition. I said it's an interesting card to have in your deck in knock out games when you're in front and need to shut the game down. Of course the team would be lacking 'organizers' (though I feel his passing qualities are a tad downplayed), but that's the whole point: you'd bring him on when you don't necessarily need organizers anymore.

I liked his performance, not easy to have your first cap in a world cup match. He clearly was nervous and his mistakes showed but then again he brought a better defensive stability than Cabaye. I was happy with his general performance.

Honestly, I didn't feel that: he wasn't disposessed once during the game (I had that impression during the game and checked the stats), had a 93% accuracy passing rate (2nd highest passer in the team after Pogba), got in 2 'key passes', got 4 of his 5 attempted long balls on target. I don't usually like using stats too much but I felt I'd check them to see whether they confirmed the impression I had during the game. I thought it was a neat and effective performance considering what was asked of him, and I thought he was extremely calm for someone getting his first cap in this type of match considering his key position on the field.

 

[Carl]

I liked his performance, not easy to have your first cap in a world cup match. He clearly was nervous and his mistakes showed but then again he brought a better defensive stability than Cabaye. I was happy with his general performance.

Yeh he's got great defensive intelligence. Such a huge feature of his play.

 

[Manucho the boss]

He's a fine player in his own right but hard to get excited about being linked with him when also linked with Vidal.

I expect we'll end up with De Jong to be brutally honest.

 

[Ramshock]

worst name in football...sounds german but is french..I mean wtf?

 

[kouroux]

worst name in football...sounds german but is french..I mean wtf?

No "wtf", he's from eastern France, a region close to the German border.A lot of people there have german names, like Wenger.

 

[Devil may care]

He might be an option if LvG wants a more pure holding CM but given how aggressively Southampton spread our cheeks for Shaw I can't see us going for him.

 

[Jammydodger7]

Would love him but lets be honest Southampton aren't gonna want to lose him after losing Lambert, Shaw and more than likely Lallana and Lovren

 

[arjwiz]

worst name in football...sounds german but is french..I mean wtf?

If you pronounce it properly, not like the commentators and pundits do, then it doesnt sound German. It's actually shneeder-lu (with a nasaly end).

 

[DWelbz19]

Crazy to think the guy had never been selectioned for France a year ago, and now he's started a WC game at the Maracana! Well deserved imo.

I remember there were rumours that surfaced that England were looking into him and he was eligible. He'd have been excellent for us in midfield. Eh, who am I kidding? He wouldn't have displaced Gerrard.

 

[The Mitcher]

I don't want a Man City reject, we can do better. That's de Jong not Schniederlin, then again, when are linked with better midfielders why go for him because he's premier league proven, look at Fellaini he is too, yet he was a bad buy by all accounts.

 

[Ramshock]

No "wtf", he's from eastern France, a region close to the German border.A lot of people there have german names, like Wenger.

Yes I know, I was being sarcastic. Im aware of Alsace and Strasbourg. Just the way they pronounce his name you expect him to be a big blonde German

 

[Speak]

I don't want a Man City reject, we can do better. That's de Jong not Schniederlin, then again, when are linked with better midfielders why go for him because he's premier league proven, look at Fellaini he is too, yet he was a bad buy by all accounts.

People said they'd have him here, and one of the reasons is that he's proven himself to be very good and consistent in the league. People didn't say that this was a reason to go for him ahead of better options. So I don't know where you've gotten that idea from.

And I don't know why you keep bringing Fellaini into this. Every player and transfer is different. Fellaini was only ever noteworthy playing as a second striker. He's never shown any proper technique or intelligence for a centre-midfield role; Schneiderlin has.

 

[limerickcitykid]

I remember there were rumours that surfaced that England were looking into him and he was eligible. He'd have been excellent for us in midfield. Eh, who am I kidding? He wouldn't have displaced Gerrard.

He wasn't eligible due to the home nations agreement

 

[The Mitcher]

People said they'd have him here, and one of the reasons is that he's proven himself to be very good and consistent in the league. People didn't say that this was a reason to go for him ahead of better options. So I don't know where you've gotten that idea from.

And I don't know why you keep bringing Fellaini into this. Every player and transfer is different. Fellaini was only ever noteworthy playing as a second striker. He's never shown any proper technique or intelligence for a centre-midfield role; Schneiderlin has.

They both play and played for midtable teams, I don't trust anyones judgement. It could be the same bloody mistake, and he's not exactly a kid with potential either.

 

[Rykker_4united]

worst name in football...sounds german but is french..I mean wtf?

I take it you don't really rate Greizmann's name then, or for that matter Ricardo Rodriguez because he's swiss but sounds Spanish.

 

[Ramshock]

I take it you don't really rate Greizmann's name then, or for that matter Ricardo Rodriguez because he's swiss but sounds Spanish.

I take it you dont read threads fully

 

[Rykker_4united]

I take it you dont read threads fully

I take it that you can't take a joke

 

[Stick]

If you pronounce it properly, not like the commentators and pundits do, then it doesnt sound German. It's actually shneeder-lu (with a nasaly end).

When I say his name the correct way as you point out I sound like the chef in the muppets!

I take it that you can't take a joke

What was the joke?

 

[Rykker_4united]

When I say his name the correct way as you point out I sound like the chef in the muppets!

What was the joke?

He sarcastically said he didn't like Schnierdelin because he has a german sounding name but he's french and i said he probably doesn't rate griezmann either

 

[Giggsforever]

If you pronounce it properly, not like the commentators and pundits do, then it doesnt sound German. It's actually shneeder-lu (with a nasaly end).

If you pronounce it properly then it sounds German, because it is German. If you pronunce it in French, then it sounds... different

 

[Stick]

He sarcastically said he didn't like Schnierdelin because he has a german sounding name but he's french and i said he probably doesn't rate griezmann either

I didn't read it like that. I thought he said he has the most German sounding name but is French but sure I'm half asleep anyway so I'm probably reading this arse ways. Anyway @Ramshock what's wrong with having a German sounding name and being from another country. Fassbender............

 

[Red Ross]

I think if a big club go in for him then he will be tempted to force it through. Good player.

 

[Stick]

If you pronounce it properly then it sounds German, because it is German. If you pronunce it in French, then it sounds... different

It's all the rolling of the rssssssssssssssssssssss

 

[NoPace]

He's a fine player in his own right but hard to get excited about being linked with him when also linked with Vidal.

I expect we'll end up with De Jong to be brutally honest.

De Jong would be a good signing if it's cheap and as depth and for specific games where Van Gaal wants that kind of DM. Assuming Fellaini goes, ths would be a strong CM situation.

1. Strootman/Vidal/Schweinsteiger/Kroos/Khedira
2. Herrera
3. Carrick
4. De Jong
5. Fletcher/Cleverley

and of course the option of players like Kagawa, Mata, Rooney and Januzaj as the most attacking central player in a midfield 3.

If we're waiting on Strootman to get healthy, too, then signing De Jong if it's dirt cheap makes sense.

 

[Sunny Jim]

Id love us to get him. Ive been saying that for ages now. Very good defensively.