It' different for every club. Some do base rates, some do percentages. Real always say that shirt sale help pay back the price on their Galacticos.
Woodward (old thread)
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Finally!!
Exclusive picture of Ed on his way to complete a transfer!
Exclusive picture of Ed on his way to complete a transfer!
It's not about pleasing the fans, it's about having a competitive team. The Glazers lose money if United don't perform on the pitch, it's as simple as that.
If only it was as simple as that! I wish it was.
But when you consider Woody is performing miracles on the commercial side of things, and even without European football he has secured a huge kit deal and in doing so made the Glazer's richer now than they have ever been since taking over.
Do you really believe the Glazer's will sanction £100 million to bring Vidal/Di Maria to the club? it would be completely against everything they have done since taking over. I can see one marquee player being brought into the club but only if that player had huge commercial value on and off the pitch.
It is as simple as that. The valuation of the club would plummet if we kept missing out on CL and stopped challenging for trophies.
That mentality from the glazers is only going to make the decline of the club worse every year
I posted it before but,
Players we've lost since 2009:
van der Sar
Neville
Evra
Hargreaves
Ferdinand
Brown
Ronaldo
Saha
Berbatov
Giggs
Vidic
Scholes
O'Shea
Silvestre
Pogba
Tevez
And obviously SAF
Players we've bought since 2009:
Valencia
Owen
Obertan
Smalling
Hernandez
Bebe
Lindegaard
Jones
Young
De Gea
Kagawa
Powell
van Persie
Buttner
Zaha
Fellaini
Mata
Shaw
Herrera
While I want to blame Ed Woodward 100%, just look at that!
One hell of a decline! (With the exception of RVP and De Gea)
*Obviously it's too early to judge Shaw and Herrera*
Players we've lost since 2009:
van der Sar
Neville
Evra
Hargreaves
Ferdinand
Brown
Ronaldo
Saha
Berbatov
Giggs
Vidic
Scholes
O'Shea
Silvestre
Pogba
Tevez
And obviously SAF
Players we've bought since 2009:
Valencia
Owen
Obertan
Smalling
Hernandez
Bebe
Lindegaard
Jones
Young
De Gea
Kagawa
Powell
van Persie
Buttner
Zaha
Fellaini
Mata
Shaw
Herrera
While I want to blame Ed Woodward 100%, just look at that!
One hell of a decline! (With the exception of RVP and De Gea)
*Obviously it's too early to judge Shaw and Herrera*
And therein lies one of the problems. Not a pleasant thing to see that decline in quality. And it's caught up with us now.
Which is what has been happening for the last number of years, fans expecting Woody to go out and buy 3 world class players are only going to end up being disappointed.
All fans want is a successful team on the pitch, but having a successful business off the field is the thing that matters most to the Glazer's and until the commercial deals start to decline i don't see the transfer policy changing.
Yes the two areas are connected, but even after a terrible year the big commercial deals are still coming in, so Woody is doing an brilliant job in the eyes of the owners.
Sad times.
Mata was a great signing though.
Great player, loved him since his Valencia days....Has been average to rubbish since he came here
He's as useless as an ashtray on a motorbike.
I honestly don't think he's as useless as some of you believe. He does not set the budget, the Glazer's do.
He's a bullshitter though.
He's a bullshitter though.
Really. He's been "rubbish" since coming here. Just let that sink in for a while, and then ask yourself whether you want to delete that message or perhaps quit posting on message boards altogether.
Oh ok.
He's been amazing and utterly brilliant since coming here!
Now, show me his "world class" or "excellent" or "great" matches since he came here?!
He's a great player but to say he's been anything more then "alright" since arriving here is a huge over statement.
Fans got to stop buying the season tickets, if that even matters to the glazers anymore. For me, the day the glazers sell the club, is the day this club starts to become the successful team they once were again, my fear? that could be a long long time away. And I do not see us winning a champions league under these conditions for a long long time to come, winning the PL title is becoming a long distant memory, but we will defiantly go past our last champions league drought between 99-08. I can see us going past our last PL title drought between 2003-06, hopefully not a 26 year barren run, but if this family has plans for decades of ownership I do not see us winning another title under this lot, not when the bar by allot of clubs in england and abroad are setting
Looks like we get to taste the Doug Ellis years aston villa fans once had under that ownership
Therein lies my point. People are so irrational with their appraisals of players that they either have to be absolutely amazing or they're rubbish. Believe it or not, players can also be "good" as well.
I just independently stumbled on Valencia as a bit of a turning point on a different thread (Glazers) and phrased it slightly differently. Interesting though, innit.
Ok well, his "good" games have been few and far between.
He was very good when he came on against Norwich, he done well when he came on against Southampton at the tail end of last year and he showed glimpses here and there of his ability but, he hasn't hit that standard he set at Chelsea since arriving here.
It's a fair comment and I'm not for a second doubting his ability
Would replacing Woodward make any difference with the Glazer's remaining? I doubt it would.
Alright fair enough. I wouldn't disagree that he's hit his Chelsea heights either, because he clearly hasn't yet. Ive assumed that's a result of our team being wretched for the past year.
I've always been wary of criticising him since we don't know what is going on behind the scenes with the manager.
Now, Van Gaal has confirmed that he wants players in and he's experienced enough to know that back-ups are neccesary. If we fail in the rest of the window it'll be safe to assume Woodwards to blame.
Now, Van Gaal has confirmed that he wants players in and he's experienced enough to know that back-ups are neccesary. If we fail in the rest of the window it'll be safe to assume Woodwards to blame.
"Watch this space" he said
The space between his ears.
I could imagin this could be the case. I never for a second belived in the assesing squad pr.
You ain't wrong. And our new manager is used to working with a director of football more than anything else (or so I believe, at least - at any rate it seems that his natural approach to transfers is much less hands-on than Fergie's or even Moyes'). Woodward is good at dealing with sponsors, we know this. We do not know to what extent he's good at dealing with rival football clubs.
Let's see where we are at the end of the window, by all means. But I'm not opposed to the idea of a DOF of sorts, someone whose job is exclusively to deal with transfers, both in and out (what the feck are we doing, if anything, on the latter front, by the way? Isn't it time to actually offload some of the players who are clearly superfluous if LVG wants to trim the squad, as he has stated?)
This is the Official Ed Woodward Manchester United Doomsday Clock:
As we approach Deadline Day without signings, it will get closer to midnight.
As we approach Deadline Day without signings, it will get closer to midnight.
My point was that its a hell of a lot easier to do your dealing before pre-season if you have a manager there. Look at Chelsea's buys last summer, okayish but failed to address the issues they had in the squad.
As the season went by Mou knew exactly what they needed and nailed the lot quickly when the window opened. But that didn't happen overnight. It was being worked over the season. That's why Chelsea were able to have such a good season - they had a manager taking his time looking at his team.
The point about Shaw is that it shows we can do the groundwork and finish deals early when we have a long term target in mind. But any other long term targets that Moyes had in mind seem to have been kiboshed by LVG, and he has his own targets.
I suppose LvG had backup plans in his initial list that he handed to Ed. But he didn't expect CEO of " biggest club in the world" could feck up everything. Sad thing is how many quality players who are just the backup to backup plan are available this late ?
It's time for DoF, I think. Ed can stay and shite sponsor deals for all he likes, just never do transfer business again.
The team is dying a slow death.
That's even betterHe won the Open Championship last month and the course was in Liverpool. In his acceptance speech he stuck it to them and got booed. Legend!!
It's almost getting to the point where getting him off transfer duty will be the best transfer business the club does all summer.
This is seriously depressing to follow now, either this cnut or the Glazers have got some serious questions to answer. All this after last summer, and this cnuts false promises about how we've got an unlimited pot of gold.
Its not just transfers in... Granted thats the most important part, but shifting the decaying, rotting, wretched driftwood should have been done the moment the official blew his whistle to close out the match between us and Southampton in May.
Honestly, why not at least release Anderson from his contract? Pay him out, whatever it takes. Not a single club resource should be spent on keeping him here at the expense of an academy prospect who could gain by at least training/eating in his place.
Honestly, why not at least release Anderson from his contract? Pay him out, whatever it takes. Not a single club resource should be spent on keeping him here at the expense of an academy prospect who could gain by at least training/eating in his place.
I wonder how much Woody gets paid to be this useless?
He has only played 16 games for us mostly out of position under Moyes and got 6 goals and 8 assists. He hasn't hit his Chelsea highs but he hasn't been shit, far from it.
Woody and Glazers are a deadly combination. I hope he can learn fast. But the question is : Do we really have any funds to buy anyone or was that the club trying to keep us calm?
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