One family's view on Ferguson
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/17/us/ferguson-biracial-couple/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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Riots in Ferguson, St Louis
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
Boy with replica gun fatally shot by Cleveland police
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/23/boy-fake-gun-shot/19438005/
Not an isolated incident, it seems.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/23/boy-fake-gun-shot/19438005/
Not an isolated incident, it seems.
Seems poor communication to the officers played a role in this. They were not told that witnesses thought the gun was fake. Mixed feelings based on initial reports
To be announced today. This could explode if they don't prosecute Wilson.
If you were on the grand jury would it be tough not to vote for pressing charges regardless of the evidence knowing what might happen if the cop is not brought to trial? Obviously if the evidence supports going to trial it is an easy vote
Not in the slightest.
If -- contrary to the evidence -- you sacrifice someone who you do not believe to be guilty for the sake of appeasing the threat of the mob, you also sacrifice the rule of law. I can't believe a country like America would even consider such a question.
People seem to be forgetting that this is not about conviction but just bringing an accused person to trial. From what I have read and seen, certain eye witness account are enough to alteast try the office involved. Then you decide on conviction.
Who said the country was considering it? I just asked a hypothetical question lol.
Certainly hope I would stick to the principles and the law. But damn glad I don't have to feel that pressure. Basically you just have to realize people's reactions are there responsibility and you have to do the right thing.
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Yes that is an important point nobody is found guilty by the grand jury. They just decide if the prosecution has enough to warrant taking the issue to trial. The defense does not get to present any evidence or refute the evidence presented. It is all about the prosecution at this point.
Looks like it will be no indictment. Should be announced in the next few minutes.
. Going to be interesting to see the various reactions around the country
The transcripts will be made public so we will get to read what all the witnesses said and what all the evidence presented was
No indictment. Hope the riots aren't too bad.
From what has been said it seems as if the officer according to the law was justified to shoot Brown during the initial tussle. But for him to be justified to fire the amount of shots he did for me is ridiculous.
The amount of idiots that have come forward with false statements seems to have played a big part in this decision. It is now a ticking time bomb to live in Ferguson, it might be a month, year or even five but this will not be forgotten.
The amount of idiots that have come forward with false statements seems to have played a big part in this decision. It is now a ticking time bomb to live in Ferguson, it might be a month, year or even five but this will not be forgotten.
Rumors of potential rioting are just idiotic fear mongering by the media. For the most part, recent protests, including the ones tonight, have been lawful, while brimming with raw emotion. This is a bitter pill for the black community to swallow, and in some ways, it's like nothing has changed since the 60s.
All I can gather is that there is a lot of disappointment from the American community. Little about real rioting though.
The reaction to the shooting has been absolutely hysterical, in my view. I don't mean comedic, but that it has been devoid of sense. It's going to happen again and again - criminal thugs will be shot by police officers, and there will be uproar in the absence of any sound evidence of wrongdoing. The only way to prevent this nonsense is to force cops to wear head-cameras at all times.
Looks like its proper kicking off right now.
How so?
The CNN reporters are getting destroyed by tear gas.
I do agree that the looting and criminal activities by some protesters is wrong but it seems like the majority of people have remained peaceful but vocal. But the amount of shots fired and the way people are killed is something that is rightly being challenged IMO.
One town in my area has the cops wear body cams. The chief says it holds both the cops and the public accountable. They now have fewer complaints about the cops and the officers claim the have fewer issues with people they are dealing with. Seems being on camera puts all on their best behavior. Other towns and the city police force are moving to use them.
Msnbc reporter hundreds of feet from the smoke/teargas pissing his pants about it.
It is a great idea and but a costly one to roll out to all forces, and I am sure it would have a positive effect until the day the camera 'stops working' and something tragic happens again. For me idiots will always be idiots regardless of circumstances and while the majority of people in many countries are law abiding the idiots will always highlighted.
Don Lemon? Idiot. He smells marijuana in the air also.
From where I've been looking at it, the reaction was based not on an impartial examination of what little evidence there was, but on an appeal to emotion. Once this appeal had been met (with the help of social media and other shallow platforms of discussion), it ballooned into something that was beyond reason. The protesters had made up their minds and nothing was going to change this.
Liquor store being looted. No justice no peace.
So what happens now? Do the police cautiously sit back allow the protesters to blow off some steam? Or go in hard to put out a statement that criminality will not be tolerated?
A few stores on fire.
They're doing a decent job of using tear gas and smoke to disperse the crowds. There's looting going on.....should continue throughout the night.
Like during the LA riots much of the looting will be left to run its course
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Cops saying only smoke used. Others saying teargas. I wonder if some having reactions because they think it is teargas or if teargas actually used?
Heard it's getting heated in NYC.
I think that tactic was a disaster during the 2011 London/England riots and it will be here too if the natural course is one of reckless mass violence and looting. Hopefully it won't come to that though and the potential for violence is just being hyped up by the media.
4 cop cars sirens on just passed my house. Not unusual as I live on a busy road about 2 miles from town police hq.
Protestors gathering in NYC and a few other cities but no problems reported.
Are you in Ferguson ?
There's peaceful protest in Time Square 200-300 people.
Peaceful candle light protests at two local universities.
Watching on tv. They are showing a few stores in ferguson on fire