Just like how when Scholes retired and 90% of the posts on the RAWK thread were about how he was a thug with a shit tackle?
Gerrard Confirms He's Slipping Off
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There are about 14 things wrong with that.
Seems the point of my post is not clear which i apologise for. Please don't assume it as a slur against the victims of Hillsbourgh.
The point i meant to portray is that throughout his career Gerrard has made everything about himself... Hence the term Stevie Me. And with this being the last time he will play for the club whenever it is they do the memorial stuff in April.... No doubt his self improtance will be magnified more so than last year with the over emotinal team talk for the camaras.
That was my point.
It's distasteful to try to make that point by using Hillsborough as an example. It would be distasteful in any case, but it's particularly distasteful given the personal significance of Hillsborough for Gerrard.
Gerrard quit England in the summer so he could play for Liverpool for another two or three years. Maybe the club have fecked about and stevie isn't happy?
And that was extremely bitter and small time from those bunch, wasn't it?
He must analyse his games and realise how bad he's been.
He probably wanted a multi year contract (which nearly no top club will ever offer) as well as being played regularly. I wish they accepted his demands.
Give over with this "holier than thou" attitude. There's plenty of people here who have said he was a great player, and the Gerrard vs Lampard thread shows what people think of him.
The fact that there is bitterness incidentally shows that he was a great player. Average players don't receive the hate and attention of opposition fans.
It may not be pretty but that's how football is.
So Gerrard's official reason for quiting Liverpool is that he was no longer considered an automatic starter. Is anyone else not buying this?
At his age he should know he will never be an automatic starter in every game. There's something not quite right about it. I wonder what the likes of Scholes and Giggs think about it. Surely they were told at one point that they wouldn't be the first names on the team sheet but they stuck around and won more medals.
Surely his ego isn't that big? I think it's a trophy or money reason for leaving.
At his age he should know he will never be an automatic starter in every game. There's something not quite right about it. I wonder what the likes of Scholes and Giggs think about it. Surely they were told at one point that they wouldn't be the first names on the team sheet but they stuck around and won more medals.
Surely his ego isn't that big? I think it's a trophy or money reason for leaving.
Yeah, what an ego getting upset about a tragedy that killed his cousin and affected the club he's been at since the age of 8 (pre–dating the disaster). Me. Me. Me.
Err not asking anyone to stop either as long as you understand what you mention in the last line which isn't always apparent from various post.
Possibly, but the impression I get is that Rodgers has done a lot with his constant shifting to find him a place in the side. He tried him at CB, holding midfield, beside a holding midfielder, behind the striker... Nothing. He's even tried using him as an impact sub but it's still no to avail. Maybe Liverpool's poor season is the final straw? He probably realises he hasn't got it in him any longer and wants a final hey-day.
There's actually nothing wrong in him wanting a big final payday. He has no obligation to retire at Liverpool. What's stupid is calling him a one club man though.
Look. I understand him being upset. But he could have been a lot less Public about it all.
Ironically what he did in my opinion cost him a league winners medal.
He involved the players in his own emotion. He made it about him and it affected the team, they couldn't handle the emotion and the added pressure brought with it, as the performances after that event in the run in shown.
My belief now is that he wants to play first team football, but has realised that playing first team football at Liverpool will probably be at the detriment of the teams performance and results... which if is the case, a very admirable thing to do.
It's Brenton actually realising that Liverpool's midfield isn't a static sack of shite when Slippy's not playing and trying to somehow phase him out plus the constant mockery, songs and visions of Demba Ba in his head that made him make this decision. He knows he's the only person who took away his biggest dream and as well upset Liverpool fans, they asked him to let them dream, he's shattered dreams of little Liverpool kids by slipping that day.
I think this is actually a bigger point than many consider. The way he's been in the interviews the last day or so, especially the fact that he seems to be sulking because he's no longer the key man, plus the way he has behaved in the past with the camera licking, the legendary speech etc to me indicates someone who is incredibly self-centred. I think the songs etc may have finally broken through his ego and made him realise that actually, he's really not liked very much outside of Andield.
Yeah, like that guaranteed three points against City last year in what was arguably the biggest game at Anfield in the last decade?
I always thought Gerrard was going to retire at Liverpool, one club men are quite rare in this day and age. It's sad, but the club just couldn't guarantee him to be a certitude on the team sheet anymore (and rightly so). It doesn't make me question his loyalty to the club at all.
He is done mentally as soon as the crystal palace game
The world cup mistakes also did not help him.
I don't think that's the reason he's leaving though. It must be annoying to be constantly reminded of it, but many great players are booed everywhere they go. If you can't handle that, you're mentally weak and I'm pretty sure that isn't the case with Gerrard.
So, when he's in a bar and somebody sticks music on the juke box which he doesn't like, who will he get to batter them / take the rap for him?
Imagine if Liverpool win the league next season?
I just heard the FA Cup final this season is on his birthday. Can't imagine the media attention he's going to get if Liverpool make the final. God imagine how sweet it would be if we beat them 
He will probably do a John Terry and turn up in his replica shirt for the parade!
A rejected line from John Lennon's classic Imagine there. Apparently it was considered too fantastical compared to the prospect of there being no religion, no possessions, no countries, and everyone living in peace.Hectic said:
That whole point you've made could still exist without any mention of Hillsborough - last year's title run in had nothing to do with that disaster.
People handle things differently. Throughout his life, Hillsborough has been something that has been significant for Gerrard. Being at the club since he was eight, his cousin being killed in the disaster, the horrendous cover up behind the actual events that went on for over two decades before finally being exposed. Last season was the 25th anniversary. Over the twelve months or so prior they had made big strides in getting the scandal uncovered and wasn't long before the 25th anniversary that the inquests started and the justice that Liverpool fans had been longing for so long could finally be sought. Anne Williams, who was the key campaigner to get a new enquiry died a year previously.
I don't think last year's run in had anything to do with that disaster, but if it did criticising Gerrard for being public about it is harsh. We've got no idea what was going on in his head, and I doubt it had anything to do with it being all about him.
Pretty sure his cousin was killed at Hillsborough. Not sure what your point is bringing it up to be honest.
I just imagined it. Still a horrible feeling.
We talking about the same person?
Oh yes it's never a good thing for us, but can you think of a more bittersweet moment for a Liverpool fan?
His cousin died in Hillsborough. Couldn't blame him for crying.
I can't stand Gerrard, but the Hillsborough comment strikes me as incredibly harsh. I don't think we should ever judge how people grieve, especially when it's something emotional, rather than rational. I almost thought the Stevie Me nickname came more from his being a star with a healthy ego, and the fact that the nickname has a certain ring to it (unlike say, Wayne Me.) But what top-flight footballer, bar Scholes, doesn't have a big ego? And Scholes comes across a bit special for being so pathologically modest (and I love Scholes.)
What's wrong with wanting to keep playing every game?
If you're struggling to see the motivation for a 35 year old to move to Los Angeles and get paid 6m a year to be the star of a team in an easier league, I don't know what world you're living in. Fair play to him.
Brutal. But True.
He does realise that. He still wants to be playing regular football though and fair enough, can't complain after the service he's given our club.