So Ronaldo has come out and said he's happy at Real,wonder ifs he now happy as Casillas may be moving on?
De Gea Contract Situation
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If they can pay 85 million for gareth bale, then they can pay 35 million or more for DDG, or he stays in Manchester for another season
is it not the case that in order to prevent us from signing of another ddg, we can only let him go unless everything is running upon our demand. if we can accept the peanuts from his leaving how can we tell the next ddg not coming? i fully concur with you that's the whole purpose that this is to make the next ddg leery of signing for us. indeed, we don't want to see another ddg coming over again, do you?. if we can make this case to help screen out our future signings, money well spent
this will never be our purpose to destroy anyone's football career. however united should put the interest of this football club above anyone. as long as we act professionally i don't see anyone would put the blame to us. instead, through out the whole case i see we so far have done everything right.
the player never met any even just once negative reception from anyone even during his difficult time to fit himself to the premier league;
we offered the most lucrative contract to make the player the best earner as a goalkeeper once he established himself as one of the best goalkeeper in the industry;
once the player made it clear he wanted to leave, we chose not to stand in his way but just demanded the money to be right according to the current market condition, we didn't demand any ridiculous money even his dream club treated us a threat to their hoping global dominance inside the football world
i don't see anything we have ever done wrong
we shall not prioritize the game time to those not pledged their future with this football club. hence in this particular case if real madrid not opt to spend money on ddg and take their time to lapse till the end of his contract, we should put other players like valdes or lindegaard prioritized over ddg. otherwise this is no different to invite other players to follow his footsteps.
when they informed the club that ddg wanted to join real madrid (he didn't say he wanted to go back to his home country. he name checked real madrid as the football club he wanted to join), he should expect to accept all the consequences which could have followed. if he doesn't then ddg was really badly advised and his adviser is either an ignorant, or an idiot or even a moron whom believe he can screw us around like what he did in the past.
Not sure I understand the thinking behind needing a replacement goalie in before we allow DDG to leave. Wouldn't that weaken our position as no club wants to be stuck with two first choice keepers on their books? If we don't get a replacement, we can at least bluff about making him stay on another year as our first choice.
Delighted we're threatening to run his contract down, if he isn't willing to sign a new deal to help us get a reasonable fee for him then I have no issue making his life difficult for a year.
This is a pretty good piece of analysis. Perez is demonstrating his unabashed conceit and arrogance yet again. But then, these traits have always factored into their their equally arrogant and strong arm transfer policy (i.e., everyone wants to go the Madrid - which in many ways is true). There is no way we should let DDG go for less than the apparent asking sum of 20m, nor should we be suckers and pay over 40m for Ramos (who is a great defender but at 29 years old and will ask for over 200k per week). There are attractive alternatives out there. Woody and his crew are to be supported for the reasonable and calculated stance they are taking over this "saga".
What is £20m to a club that has a turnover of £500m? The message keeping De Gea sends to Madrid and every player looking to use us as a stepping stone is far more important than letting De Gea and Real have their way with us.
We don't have to actually keep him merely showing that we are prepared to will force Perez's hand as the start if the season draws closer. DDG is the shiny new toy he has promised the fans and if they don't get him now then it will be seen as a failure especially if Barca and their terrifying front three run them over, again. With the negativity surrounding the Ancelotti sacking and the Ramos shit storm they need DDG now.
Ah yes but the longer he is here, the longer it will be before we buy a replacement. Can't see us getting one before he goes.
Not sure if we are on the same page. What I said was that Woodward will not sell DDG if Real Madrid do not match the price that United are demanding. I am sure that Ed will rather let DDG see his contract out than accept the reported 13 million quid. However, if Real Madrid make a fair (from United's point of view) offer, then David will be allowed to leave.
We spend a metric feck tonne every year on improving the image of our brand.
Bending over to Real Madrid for a few million for our best player does absolutely zero for the image of our club.
Holding onto De Gea for another year shows our strength and as Real will be very likely unable to sign players next summer, I think there is a good chance De Gea will sign a big fat contract with us on a similar promise to what Ronaldo had - sign the contract (and receive the financial reward you have earnt), perform as well as you can and try to win trophies with us and we will not stop you getting the move you want as long as we get fair compensation.
Valdez is already here and I'm certain Van Gaal knows exactly who he will be getting meaning that should a replacement come in later on in July or early August Valdez's presence will help ease him in. It is vitally important that we score a PR win in this one because if we allow ourselves to be their bitch we might as well sell them the likes of Januzaj, Perreira and Herrera and get them back on loan because the moment they turn world class they will pull the same stunt. Giving them joy on this deal will effectively ensure that.
Look at Spurs, every big club deals with them with trepidation after the hell they took us through with Berbatov and they learned their lesson when they sold MC to us.
It would be well worth keeping De Gea and playing him in each match.
True, true and true. Good post. Not convinced by Valdes but he could probably do a job short term while we sort out the bigger picture.
If we keep him, he will definitely play in the first team. And we should play him, unless his form goes, then valdes can step in. If letting him go on a free is viable financially, we should do it.
100% agree.
£20M is nothing to us.
To put this into context, DDG has been our best player for the last 2 years.
Spurs sold their best player 2 years ago, for £85M.
Juventus might sell their best player (Pogba) for £80M.
I say keep him for this year and we search and sign a replacement in the next 12 months. This way, we dont need to make any rash decisions and we get to keep our best player for another year (which is worth far more than £20M).
Then, we let him go for free next year OR he may re-sign with us, if we do well on the pitch and look to compete for league and CL in 2 years. Who knows, in 1 year, Madrid may lose interest and/or DDG may lose interest in Madrid.
Our aim should be to retain our best players - not sell them for £20M.
Even Tottenham (who are a selling club), wouldnt sell their best player for £20M. Why should we?
Im not the biggest fan of valdes but no one we have been linked with is better than him.
De Gea was surely worth more than 13m last season (in fact, I think that he was worth the entire sum of money we'll get from UCL considering that we wouldn't be near the 4th position without him). Who is to say that he won't be worth that much this season too?
Unless Madrid pays near 35m, I think that we should keep De Gea for this season. In fact, I truly believe that in the end Madrid will pay near that much. They don't like losing in transfers, and who knows, a couple of errors from much inferior Ter Stegen (or just a change in hierarchy of Barca), might make Barca interested in De Gea considering that he'll cost nothing next summer. I am not sure that Madrid/Perez are that patient as to wait for him.
And as @jojojo said, we might just end up with actually destabilizing Madrid, which will make them less likely to go for our next great player.
13m (or even 20m) is nothing for United. We're better keeping De Gea than losing him for that money.
Unless Madrid pays near 35m, I think that we should keep De Gea for this season. In fact, I truly believe that in the end Madrid will pay near that much. They don't like losing in transfers, and who knows, a couple of errors from much inferior Ter Stegen (or just a change in hierarchy of Barca), might make Barca interested in De Gea considering that he'll cost nothing next summer. I am not sure that Madrid/Perez are that patient as to wait for him.
And as @jojojo said, we might just end up with actually destabilizing Madrid, which will make them less likely to go for our next great player.
13m (or even 20m) is nothing for United. We're better keeping De Gea than losing him for that money.
It's fantastic to see the club taking such a hardline stance on De Gea.
Looking at the Ronaldo situation, the club was happy to let the player chase his dream, but it was done on our terms to a large degree: the player had to stay for another season and apply himself and we ended up taking a world record fee. Look at the relationship between him and United fans to this day - a great example of an amicable parting.
De Gea has, frankly, acted like a little shit. For a club with our financial resources, there's simply no point in taking a derisory fee - we need to get top dollar for him or he stays here. Not only that, but it will send a signal out that we're not going to be mugged in the transfer market.
Looking at the Ronaldo situation, the club was happy to let the player chase his dream, but it was done on our terms to a large degree: the player had to stay for another season and apply himself and we ended up taking a world record fee. Look at the relationship between him and United fans to this day - a great example of an amicable parting.
De Gea has, frankly, acted like a little shit. For a club with our financial resources, there's simply no point in taking a derisory fee - we need to get top dollar for him or he stays here. Not only that, but it will send a signal out that we're not going to be mugged in the transfer market.
I seriously doubt Madrid will wait for a year. It's now or never for them, as they've already burnt bridges with Casillas and Navas isn't exactly upto their requirements. The further we delay it, the further they get anxious. It's here that having Valdes is an excellent fall back for us.
So far, we've played it very well. But still a long way to go.
Same here. I think that it is almost surely that De Gea will go to Madrid this summer. On the other side, I don't think that United can gain anything by accepting it now (especially if LVG is happy with Valdez to be our No.1 next season). Hopefully Woody does a Levy and doesn't sell De Gea until in the deadline day, making Real massively pay for him.
If the stories are really true that they burned their bridges with Casillas and/or they sell him, then we have all the cards in our side. They will get De Gea but there is a big difference if we get 13 or 35m for him. And if we go until in deadline day without selling him, they will surely pay that much for him. After all, they won't be going in next season with Navas as their keeper after Perez promised De Gea.
The other good thing is that we have a EURO next season, and so De Gea won't be 'demotivated' or sabotage the job. He will want to be Spain's No.1 next season. In fact, I find quite weird why we haven't (publicly) threatened him that if he doesn't sign he'll get benched (something that Mourinho did with Courtuis among other examples) considering that:
1) we don't need money from his sale (i.e we're not a selling club),
2) he won't drop his performances next season - even if it is kept against his will - because of the EURO.
The best option (both for him and us) would have been to sign a contract with a gentlemen agreement that we'll sell him for a fair price (north of 30m or so) and then peacefully sell him. Now, it looks that things might go ugly, with him probably beinch benched, booed and the transfer being a lengthy one.
Woody is loving this...none of us have insider knowledge but the image i have of him tells me he can't wait for the transfer windows to open each time 
Real did nothing out of the goodness of their hearts in the Di Maria transfer so god only knows why some poster are worried about United's image for not bending over to them now.
Real did nothing out of the goodness of their hearts in the Di Maria transfer so god only knows why some poster are worried about United's image for not bending over to them now.
Had a dream last night that I overheard De Gea praying to a bush that he was wanting forgiveness for signing with Madrid and thanking god for allowing him to play with ander and mata. Then i told everybody and we stayed up outside his house and he came on his balcony at was chanting his songs with us. felt like crying. Just thought id share it
It's not his home, he's renting it.
Ok so he is moving out... I wonder where he is house hunting
Prestbury?
Thanks for the share Lou
Yes, this. Valdes is perfectly up to the job.
Great to see the club playing hardball with this, its leaves DDG and his agent in a tricky situation. If Madrid refuse to cough up then he spends another year on £50k a week, any agent with his salt will be then telling him to sign the new deal with us as he will earn millions next season.
He'd earn more with the whopping signing on fee he'd receive if he joined Real on a free.
If everything goes to plan for him next season, but in life anything can happen. Injuries, loss of form, accidents....nothing is ever certain.
Thanks for sharing this, brother. I know its tough, we'll get through it.
i needed support at this hard time not a laughThanks for the share Lou
thanks for your support, its a tough time and its clear its playing on my mind
I want anything other than selling him for a ridiculous fee which would in the region of under 25million gbp.
I love this new gang behind our transfers, spearheaded by Woodie. They are so fecking wild and unpredictable. I can just imagine them bowling around Madrid recking every gaf they see.
I love this new gang behind our transfers, spearheaded by Woodie. They are so fecking wild and unpredictable. I can just imagine them bowling around Madrid recking every gaf they see.
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