"I'm half the player under LvG"
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It's good for a team to keep it's shape but the way he seems to want to micro-manage the exact position of every player on the pitch must be a horrible system to play in and fits with the flaws that made us look so shite last night.
Nobody showing for the ball. A bunch of static players, hoping for someone to find them with a perfect pass. Which, bizarrely, seemed to be mainly the job of Chris Smalling.
Are we back to Carrick and Rooney again? The usual suspects? We should be detectives.It really could be Wayne, we don't know what is said behind closed doors to him. He might not be happy himself about the way he is playing and does not want to criticise his team, so is now blaming the tactics. Therefore the manager.
Didn't want to mention names so as not to start another argument.Love RedCafe at times, bloody love it!
So it's other teams fault for not attacking us enough?
Yep, hadn't seen that either. I mentioned the lack of movement in the post-match thread and to see that it is indeed LvG's instruction is baffling.
Such bullshit tbh, it's such a vague statement which Burt could easily make up just to make a news story.
1996 is probably his DOB tbf. Just a kid and we'll be losing kids as fan in their droves if this shit goes on much longer. Not a fecking hope of picking up new fans, that's for sure.Love RedCafe at times, bloody love it!
Profile says he's 31 and he made a thread on the "best of 1990s"
We're a load of No Shit Sherlocks.Love RedCafe at times, bloody love it!
Oh dear.
Had Dunphy lecturing us on TV last night that we're not a big club anymore and have no money to spend.
Losing kids in their droves we will be. Not that I'm arsed.
Good gravy.....
I'm extremely arsed. One of those kids is my son.Had Dunphy lecturing us on TV last night that we're not a big club anymore and have no money to spend.
Losing kids in their droves we will be. Not that I'm arsed.
Maybe he switches his DOB like he does with clubs?
You'll be grand. Hopefully he's still young enough not to be able to tell the difference between good football and football they show to people on death row
And MU is the first ever club that I support.
Managers are heart and soul of teams. I missed the good old days when the team kept fighting until the end. Under SAF we used to be known as a come-back team, winning matches despite of being under great pressure and deficit. I just can't see it with LVG, no spirit whatsoever. His only solution is always to spend more money. "I need a good left back, good winger, striker etc.". How about a good manager
One year membership and 10k+ posts? Go get a life please
He's only six but, sadly, even a 6 year old can tell we're horrible to watch and the likes of Arsenal and (spit) Liverpool are playing much better stuff.You'll be grand. Hopefully he's still young enough not to be able to tell the difference between good football and football they show to people on death row
So you'll switch teams if we don't start playing better?And MU is the first ever club that I support.
Managers are heart and soul of teams. I missed the good old days when the team kept fighting until the end. Under SAF we used to be known as a come-back team, winning matches despite of being under great pressure and deficit. I just can't see it with LVG, no spirit whatsoever. His only solution is always to spend more money. "I need a good left back, good winger, striker etc.". How about a good manager
Success would mean nothing if you just supported whoever happened to be winning from time to time.
This is much more serious than I thought...
Pretty obvious from yesterday, the players walked like zombies waiting for the match to end. People started leaving the stadium even before the 80', they saw players stop trying to win so why bother staying till the end. Do you think they are glory hunters too? How much longer will they support a team that don't give an ass about fighting for a late win. They are living in Manchester and they may not turn their backs to support City, but they may stay at home the next time instead of watching this
I don't mind supporting 2nd tier club, it is not about winning. You can lose matches with good spirit and fighting. My point is we should get a manager with much stronger spirit and brain otherwise this zombie style of football is not going to keep fans forever.
You've no idea, mate. I'm going through hell here...
Quite like the idea though of being the only United supporter in a family....Having said that, one needs to have sex to have kids so, I won't ever be in your position sadly
Mata would make sense. After all, haven't plenty of posters here said he looks a lesser player than he did at Chelsea? We've also wondered whether that's down to him or LVG's instructions. Also, he isn't playing in what I'm sure he considers his favourite position and gets subbed off more than he'd like. It would make sense that he's the guy who feels like LVG is inhibiting him.
Staying in the right places doesn't mean standing still fwiw.
Wouldn't suprise me if it's Rooney. He after all has everyone making excuses for him and I would think him the kind to hear this and blame others for his own poor form.
Doesn't matter whether he has a good relationship with the manager or not. He is a big player who has an image to protect and for whatever reason he isn't living up to it, someone has to be to blame.
Doesn't matter whether he has a good relationship with the manager or not. He is a big player who has an image to protect and for whatever reason he isn't living up to it, someone has to be to blame.
Them's fighting words...
Out of character. That man is way too positive. He's the only player that frequently shares his thoughts and there's nothing there to suggest that he's frustrated.
It doesn't really matter who said so because I'm sure many players would second this statement. I was and still am convinced that United missed out on some players because of LvG, or to be more precise because of his rigid philosophy that absorbs all the fun out of the job of a professional football player.
Dunphy was talking such shite, he kept saying that we weren't a big club anymore, Giles corrected him and said 'they are a big club, they have everything, they're just not doing it on the pitch,' to which Dunphy replied 'No John, they are a big brand, they are a big club (hang on??) but their scouting system isn't good enough'.Had Dunphy lecturing us on TV last night that we're not a big club anymore and have no money to spend.
Losing kids in their droves we will be. Not that I'm arsed.
Good gravy.....
He then want on to say we have no money to spend, having just told us how much LVG has spent, and then in the same sentence criticising us because Bayern bought Douglas Costa for 22 million while we were buying Memphis for 24.. also we spent 25 million on Schneiderlin who's 'not a creative midfielder'...ok.
Sorry for derailing the thread, I just really hate Eamonn Dunphy.
If we find out who it is then I'd be happy enough if he never kicked a ball for the club ever again.
Keep it indoors. The Moyes fiasco was damaging enough. Undermining the coaching staff can't be allowed to happen here again, irrespective of how true or not the comments are.
Keep it indoors. The Moyes fiasco was damaging enough. Undermining the coaching staff can't be allowed to happen here again, irrespective of how true or not the comments are.
He's a coke addled twat. You might as well dig up Alex Higgins and sit him in the studio.
it also might be none of the players. Easy for a journalist to make something like that up because its glaringly obvious that certain players are under performing, Rooney and Memphis being the most obvious candidates.
But if its a player it would surely have to be someone who is receiving stick for their performance and are trying to save face by mentioning the tactics. Surely most players will accept that we are in a good position even though its boring football. We could go top on the weekend and CL knockout qualification is still in our hands. Its not pretty on the eye but no need for the players to go running to the press all the same.
But if its a player it would surely have to be someone who is receiving stick for their performance and are trying to save face by mentioning the tactics. Surely most players will accept that we are in a good position even though its boring football. We could go top on the weekend and CL knockout qualification is still in our hands. Its not pretty on the eye but no need for the players to go running to the press all the same.
Most likely a load of made-up bo**ocks, typical gutter press. The players are coached from early days on what to say to the press - this wouldn't be part of it.
I do think LvG sees football in those terms. Somebody said he wants to play all 11 positions. Personally I suspect he wants to play 9 of them and have two geniuses to score the goals.
It seems to breed a very strange kind of teamwork because it's one where an error by a single player seems to create a big problem, because there's a real lack of cover in the traditional sense. Smalling seems to be cover for the entire defence and the central midfielders. It also seems to leave players isolated with no one in sub-20m passing range.
The thing that I liked about the idea of us buying Herrera was that he is always willing to be the outlet, to come close to take the ball from a player under pressure. The strange thing is that people compare it to the other possession-hungry teams like Barca, but they always have someone for the easy ball. 18 months on, and none of our players make it look easy and none of them seem to move to make it easier.
My money is on Carrick. He has gone from our main source of everything, expected to create and defend, to a bit part player who is instructed to sit back and leave the creativity to others. Hes also English and established here.
I also suspected him on the last set of leaks.
I also suspected him on the last set of leaks.