Sergio Busquets | 2015-16 Performance Thread

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While I was doing some gifs I did some for Busquets as well. There was no open thread so let's create a new one.

Apparently not a top 40 footballer nor a top 12 midfielder in the world, if UEFA's Team of the Year nomination list is to be believed.

Busquets vs. Roma:

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He's been my absolute top rated defensive midfielder for years now. theres basically nothing he cant do from that position, he's outstanding.

Shame about the pathetic diving and character traits.
 
Under Enrique Busquets role as a DMC has become even less "noteworthy" in general because the focus has shifted so much to the front 3 whilst the midfield are doing more leg work then normal.

UEFA team shortlist is made by the writers on the site and is based on European performances mostly from the last season. There's no De Gea there but Denys Boyko is one of 4 goalkeepers.
 
Perez is the only club President on Ballon D'Or committee and not the first time he has blocked/vetoed Busquets' place among the nominees
 
He has really lifted his game. There was a point last season where the whole Barca midfield looked like a bit mediocre. Then Rakitic and Busquets got better as the season wore on, and since the fag end of last season the latter has been brilliant.
 
Snow said:
UEFA team shortlist is made by the writers on the site and is based on European performances mostly from the last season. There's no De Gea there but Denys Boyko is one of 4 goalkeepers.
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Who?
 
Wow this thread is going to me amazing "HEY PEOPLE BUSQUETS MADE A SIDEWAYS PASS OMGBJ ASK,M"
ok sorry had to say
 
actuanly now i see the gifs
good gifs man, good fifs,..
 
He's a great player, never hear too much about him on here and yet he's been there since the beginning of Guardiola's reign and has won it all for both club and country. Been very good once again this season, against Getafe in particular he was sublime.
 
Snow said:
Under Enrique Busquets role as a DMC has become even less "noteworthy" in general because the focus has shifted so much to the front 3 whilst the midfield are doing more leg work then normal.
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Actually his role is now even harder and more important. The front three are stretched out even more and play more direct football than before. Any half mistake from Busquets can be devastating for the team. He's been near perfect this season.
 
Brown Toothpick said:
Actually his role is now even harder and more important. The front three are stretched out even more and play more direct football than before. Any half mistake from Busquets can be devastating for the team. He's been near perfect this season.
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I said that he has to do more work. Whatever he does he won't be able to get any limelight from the front three. That's how football works.
 
He doesn't get great recognition because of his passing. He just isn't creative enough with it. Doesn't have the most expansive range. If he could pass the ball like Pirlo, he'd be a hell of a footballer. One that is lauded all over.
 
Brown Toothpick said:
Actually his role is now even harder and more important. The front three are stretched out even more and play more direct football than before. Any half mistake from Busquets can be devastating for the team. He's been near perfect this season.
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That is underrating his importance for their tiki-taka setup where he was clearly more important and it was also a far more difficult role. I agree that defensively he's in a worse situation now and he has been excellent in the limited role has. Barcelona try their best to bypass the midfield rather than use it as the tool of domination like before.

Xavi/Iniesta/Busquets were a major strength they had and they did the defensive work, stood for creativity and also dominated possession. Enrique deserves a lot of credit for realizing that their midfield isn't what it used to be and hence he doesn't try to win a midfield battle, he plays around it to the wings.
 
RooneyLegend said:
He doesn't get great recognition because of his passing. He just isn't creative enough with it. Doesn't have the most expansive range. If he could pass the ball like Pirlo, he'd be a hell of a footballer. One that is lauded all over.
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His passing is absolutely superb. Short game is pretty much perfection and he's a lot more creative with through balls now than he was when he first broke through.

He doesn't need Pirlo level passing for his role.
 
Annahnomoss said:
That is underrating his importance for their tiki-taka setup where he was clearly more important and it was also a far more difficult role. I agree that defensively he's in a worse situation now and he has been excellent in the limited role has. Barcelona try their best to bypass the midfield rather than use it as the tool of domination like before.

Xavi/Iniesta/Busquets were a major strength they had and they did the defensive work, stood for creativity and also dominated possession. Enrique deserves a lot of credit for realizing that their midfield isn't what it used to be and hence he doesn't try to win a midfield battle, he plays around it to the wings.
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I'm not undermining his importance under Pep and Tito. Just saying that he's taking more responsibilities now and is doing so superbly so far, knock on wood.
 
Brown Toothpick said:
I'm not undermining his importance under Pep and Tito. Just saying that he's taking more responsibilities now and is doing so superbly so far, knock on wood.
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I think he has done his role more or less excellent as well. Just meant that you said it is a harder and a more important role than previously which I disagreed with. A major reason he has gone under the radar as well for a while is that in this role he does a lot of intelligent movement to make others get the ball instead of himself.

Pulling his marker away to create a passing lane out wide etc intead, that has impresed me the most about him lately as when he played under Guardiola he'd more often focus on always being available himself. That shows his intelligence on the pitch.
 
Annahnomoss said:
I think he has done his role more or less excellent as well. Just meant that you said it is a harder and a more important role than previously which I disagreed with. A major reason he has gone under the radar as well for a while is that in this role he does a lot of intelligent movement to make others get the ball instead of himself.

Pulling his marker away to create a passing lane out wide etc intead, that has impresed me the most about him lately as when he played under Guardiola he'd more often focus on always being available himself. That shows his intelligence on the pitch.
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I don't disagree with you. He's never gotten the praise or the award nominations, so it's nothing new. But not being in the top 40 is just plain offensive and insulting. Every coach that managed him said he was the most intelligent player in the team, first name on the sheet. Just highlighting that this season is more difficult, in my opinion, since he's become more involved physically and making more inside passes through the lines for the front 3 with the way the team is playing under Lucho. No Xavi next him, and sometimes Iniesta, gives him more to do.
 
Brown Toothpick said:
I don't disagree with you. He's never gotten the praise or the award nominations, so it's nothing new. But not being in the top 40 is just plain offensive and insulting. Every coach that managed him said he was the most intelligent player in the team, first name on the sheet. Just highlighting that this season is more difficult, in my opinion, since he's become more involved physically and making more inside passes through the lines for the front 3 with the way the team is playing under Lucho. No Xavi next him, and sometimes Iniesta, gives him more to do.
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I think his reputation as a diver/cheater in early days is subconsciously affecting many people's judgment of him, even if he did cut it out (or think/should hope he did because I don't see him making any headlines) (for the record I don't agree with this sentiment, especially if he's cut out the diving lately).

also as I said just now he doesn't make it in to any headlines despite quietly dominating the midfield because he doesn't score flashy long range goals so his name just passes everyone by. I reckon he'll get the plaudits when he's closer to retirement as barca find a replacement when his career tails off.
 
Winrar said:
I think his reputation as a diver/cheater in early days is subconsciously affecting many people's judgment of him, even if he did cut it out (or think/should hope he did because I don't see him making any headlines) (for the record I don't agree with this sentiment, especially if he's cut out the diving lately).
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That reputation is based solely on an incident against Inter. It's weird that he doesn't get the nominations from player/manager-based votings. That's what I find bizarre.
 
Bob Loblaw said:
His passing is absolutely superb. Short game is pretty much perfection and he's a lot more creative with through balls now than he was when he first broke through.

He doesn't need Pirlo level passing for his role.
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He plays the same role as pirlo in the barca midfield he just does it with lessor quality passing. They both were the deepest midfielders, and the ones that got the play started. However while the italian started the play in a creative manner, Busquets pretty much just gets play going.

I wouldn't say his passing is superb, I'd say its precise. Most of the time passing it to the 2 midfielders in front of him. Not making any passes over the top. Hardly finding attackers feet through the lines. Essentially, there's a gulf of difference in how someone like him passes the ball and how Guardiola used to perform the same role all those years.

No one needs Guardiola/Pirlo/Gerson passing for that role, but if you have it its a huge plus. One that often allows players in that role to get the plaudits.
 
RooneyLegend said:
He plays the same role as pirlo in the barca midfield he just does it with lessor quality passing. They both were the deepest midfielders, and the ones that got the play started. However while the italian started the play in a creative manner, Busquets pretty much just gets play going.

I wouldn't say his passing is superb, I'd say its precise. Most of the time passing it to the 2 midfielders in front of him. Not making any passes over the top. Hardly finding attackers feet through the lines. Essentially, there's a gulf of difference in how someone like him passes the ball and how Guardiola used to perform the same role all those years.

No one needs Guardiola/Pirlo/Gerson passing for that role, but if you have it its a huge plus. One that often allows players in that role to get the plaudits.
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Big difference between him and Pirlo is that Pirlo needed a water carrier besides him. Busquets carries water for the team already.
 
In terms of short passing I don't see how Pirlo was any better than him, Pirlo had great range though and could easily switch flanks. Passing is passing, just because you hit on longer distances doesn't mean you're the best.
 
B20 said:
You didn't make that distinction to begin with - Nor does it disqualify what is a significant difference for a midfielder.
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My whole post was about the reason Busquets isn't that highly rated, and the reason for that being the lack of imaginative passing he presents. On the ball in their teams, they had the same roles. However Pirlo did it with much more imagination and creativity while all Busquets really does most of the time is pass the midfielders in front of him. Defensively and what one needs to be successful is another conversation altogether. That doesn't really affect how they use the ball.

kouroux said:
In terms of short passing I don't see how Pirlo was any better than him, Pirlo had great range though and could easily switch flanks. Passing is passing, just because you hit on longer distances doesn't mean you're the best.
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Surely you don't believe that? Its not really about whether he can hit longer passes, is more can he set moves up and Busquets has shown an inability to consistently do that. His numbers tell the story, in terms of holding mids he's behind basically all the other holding mids that reached a high level. Even a Verratti is passing better than him.

Pirlo was the best cause he saw the game quicker than others and could make a whole variety of passes on either foot with ridiculous accuracy. His mid-range passing flat to Tevez feet made Ancelotti to change his tactics immediately in the CL semi. He wasn't just switching play. He was switching play, bypassing midfields, even creating one on ones with over the top passes.
 
RooneyLegend said:
My whole post was about the reason Busquets isn't that highly rated, and the reason for that being the lack of imaginative passing he presents. On the ball in their teams, they had the same roles. However Pirlo did it with much more imagination and creativity while all Busquets really does most of the time is pass the midfielders in front of him. Defensively and what one needs to be successful is another conversation altogether. That doesn't really affect how they use the ball.


Surely you don't believe that? Its not really about whether he can hit longer passes, is more can he set moves up and Busquets has shown an inability to consistently do that. His numbers tell the story, in terms of holding mids he's behind basically all the other holding mids that reached a high level. Even a Verratti is passing better than him.

Pirlo was the best cause he saw the game quicker than others and could make a whole variety of passes on either foot with ridiculous accuracy. His mid-range passing flat to Tevez feet made Ancelotti to change his tactics immediately in the CL semi. He wasn't just switching play. He was switching play, bypassing midfields, even creating one on ones with over the top passes.
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I do believe that, Pirlo is more creative mainly because of the ridiculous range and accuracy he's got. When it comes to short one touch passing and inter play between the midfield lines, I have no doubt he wasn't better than Busquets. I should have precised it more in my previous post.
 
kouroux said:
I do believe that, Pirlo is more creative mainly because of the ridiculous range and accuracy he's got. When it comes to short one touch passing and inter play between the midfield lines, I have no doubt he wasn't better than Busquets. I should have precised it more in my previous post.
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And a superior football brain. Carrick and Alonso have monster passing ranges but were never as creative as Pirlo.

On your point we'll agree to disagree.
 
Huge fan of Busquets. He always looks like he's about to make a mistake, draws an opponent in, then pops it off to a team mate. Thus drawing space for his midfield partners to work into. Every damn time.
 
Pirlo was the creator for Juve, Sergio isnt. Could he be? We dont know because he hasnt been put in the team to do that.
 
His form has been incredible this season, now adding final product to his game (assists). I think he finally reached #1 CM in the world spot.
 
He played as a forward for Pep at times in the B team believe it or not. Then he obviously got converted.
 
going to footy so im watching genius to get in the mood, decided to share as its a fantastic video:drool:
 
Hes what Fellaini would be if you could take out the Fellaini out of Fellaini.
 
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