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LvG still being manager actually rapes part of my soul.
The club lacks ambition
The club lacks ambition
This hurt the most. We, the fans, think of Manchester as ATM sleeping giat who will come back as one of the best clubs in Europe. Sadly our board think it is good enough that we are club fighting for top 4 and milking as much money from it as possible.LvG still being manager actually rapes part of my soul.
The club lacks ambition
Managers have to be adaptable. Besides, this isn't a matter of sticking to his guns anymore. It's doing what will work and help us recover.But that's his modus operandi, how on earth can he change his style and philosophy now?
Nothing will happen today for sure... Unless we announce a new sponsor.So what do we think?
Another wasted day in this thread or will something happen?
Cheers mate. Unfortunately, the decline is very real and the manager is just one part of it.....not the sole reason. That said, I do believe he should be dismissed.Some good posts from LoneyFire and Amol. But also quite sad to read how the club has and continues to fall behind City.
To stop the decline something far more than the manager needs to change by the sounds. Otherwise just add us to the list of former dominant forces. Leeds, Liverpool, Utd.
Top post.The fact that you put all our woes down to our managers precisely makes my point for me. The club has to bear the brunt of Wayne Rooney's obese and unjustified wages, the club has to pay Nani for a year while he plays for another club, the club has to deal with the decision to allow an existing manager in his 70s to pick his own inept successor, the club has to deal with a situation where we've got too small a squad. Hence, the club should have a structure that can deliberate and if necessary, veto daft decisions made by managers. Leaving it all to the manager and saying "HE's the king/idiot" is all well and good when you have a genius like SAF in charge who is the boss in every sense. Less so when you're likely to constantly be hiring new managers every 2-4 years. Hence, the need for the club to have it's own decision-making structure in addition to the one provided by the managerial staff.
And no, it's not that I'm not counting SAF and SBC, I'm calling our only two men being two extremely old chaps, very odd. Get the bright minds of our recent ex-players on board. Ajax have, for example, hired Van Der Sar, as their marketing director, presumably because he knows Ajax through and through, is I imagine in their opinion intelligent, and has played for the best marketed football club on the planet.
As for the accountants and commercial men, I know their worth. I'm in the former field myself. But there should be a healthy mix between footballing and non-footballing people.
Our new "Room Freshener" sponsor?Nothing will happen today for sure... Unless we announce a new sponsor.
Bingo.Let's just put this Pep stuff to bed.
The club has fallen behind City at every youth level age group from U10s onwards. City have invested in their structure heavily in the last 4 years - Utd have not and have not had an Academy Director in place since April. City have brought in Sporting Directors who have experience at the highest level....those Sporting Directors are known to have a very close relationship with Guardiola. Utd have no Sporting Director and a complete lack of direction on a footballing level.
The idea that Woodward & Co. will all of a sudden have shown a proactive approach is ridiculous (unless it involves the words Thailand and Official Noodle Partner). The signs are there for everyone to see - City are miles in front and the appointment of Guardiola is just another step in a direction they have been working towards for years.
PS. If Woodward had been involved in trying to get Guardiola, the giddy little cnut wouldn't have been able to keep his mouth shut.
This is the problem - there is no game. Guardiola is going to City - its abundantly obvious. Mourinho is the only logical appointment to make.Are people who are saying LvG should be thrown out immediately, thinking about the replacement?
I mean is the sentiment that anyone but LvG would be fine? Or any specific names in mind?
Pep is not available now. So if we are still in the game for him, then wouldn't it make sense not to fire LvG immediately rather than give it to Giggs who has no managerial experience?
Or is Mou the only one all want?
Could be.Our new "Room Freshener" sponsor?
That part is important and justifies the alleged position of the club. The only infuriating thing for me is when I see LVG pretend that he doesn't know why he could resign, that's a lack of respect for the history of that club and its fans, he would never say that at Barcelona or Ajax.Are people who are saying LvG should be thrown out immediately, thinking about the replacement?
I mean is the sentiment that anyone but LvG would be fine? Or any specific names in mind?
Pep is not available now. So if we are still in the game for him, then wouldn't it make sense not to fire LvG immediately rather than give it to Giggs who has no managerial experience?
Or is Mou the only one all want?
I would be perfectly with Mourinho. It is not about that LVG is bad coach, it is more about that he lost the players and I think he also lost confidence in his methods. This makes it impossible for him to turn around, similar than with Mourinho at Chelsea. Noone would argue that Hiddink is better coach then Mourinho but sometimes all is needed is a fresh face which give some boost to players with new ideas.Are people who are saying LvG should be thrown out immediately, thinking about the replacement?
I mean is the sentiment that anyone but LvG would be fine? Or any specific names in mind?
Pep is not available now. So if we are still in the game for him, then wouldn't it make sense not to fire LvG immediately rather than give it to Giggs who has no managerial experience?
Or is Mou the only one all want?
Not going to happen. Why dont you go for a walk instead of constantly checking to see if a man will loose his job?So what do we think?
Another wasted day in this thread or will something happen?
You could be right of course, but I doubt that will happen. Just my opinion though.He's not going anywhere now, it's time to accept that. The club obviously thinks yesterday was a corner turned, for some inexplicable reason. The problem is, if we go through another similar shit patch, the club will look to yesterday's game as an example of how he can turn it around. Even though it was 0-0 against a 16th placed team.
Whoever guessed this the other day was right. We're sticking with Van Gaal because we have a plan. The plan involves giving Giggs the job at the end of Van Gaals tenure. No matter how shit it gets now, they have this plan and that is what will happen.
I was certainly one of the few that voiced this opinion last week. Why can't fans see that is the plan? I guess because there is such opposition to Giggs. For what it's worth I think it's very brave and potentially visionary of the club to stick with a plan like this; continuity and stability breeds success. Let's just hope the football on show improves sometime soon.He's not going anywhere now, it's time to accept that. The club obviously thinks yesterday was a corner turned, for some inexplicable reason. The problem is, if we go through another similar shit patch, the club will look to yesterday's game as an example of how he can turn it around. Even though it was 0-0 against a 16th placed team.
Whoever guessed this the other day was right. We're sticking with Van Gaal because we have a plan. The plan involves giving Giggs the job at the end of Van Gaals tenure. No matter how shit it gets now, they have this plan and that is what will happen.
So you want the club to sack him now and then what?LvG still being manager actually rapes part of my soul.
The club lacks ambition
Mourinho is surely the best option now even though he comes with many potential problems. The man would almost certainly win us a trophy or two.Cheers mate. Unfortunately, the decline is very real and the manager is just one part of it.....not the sole reason. That said, I do believe he should be dismissed.
What annoys me is his arrogance in that everything gets drawn back to him. 'I MAY RESIGN' won't be the club doing the sacking. 'I CHANGED THINGS' in regards to yesterdays match, which discredits the players.Van Gaal after Stoke: I may resign.
Van Gaal after Chelsea: The media may want me to resign, but I won't.
The guy is thick as two short planks. He keeps accusing the media of misquoting him or not understanding what it is he says. It is actually him that is confusing everyone and backtracking all the fecking time.
As opposed to not being wary of handing a man with zero experience the reins?People are just calling for him to be sacked NOW but aren't giving any alternatives. I know some have suggested Mourinho but you would forgive the club for being wary about a manager that had his team down in 17th.
Well yeah, except when we draw another 0-0 and he's blaming "luck" or "poor finishing".What annoys me is his arrogance in that everything gets drawn back to him. 'I MAY RESIGN' won't be the club doing the sacking. 'I CHANGED THINGS' in regards to yesterdays match, which discredits the players.
Come off it, people are rightly worried that the clubs doing nothing to address the worst run of form we've been on since the 30s.You lot should hang your head in shame. Acting like a bunch of spoilt 10 year olds who was just refused his 20th scoop of ice cream or something.
That's extremely debatable, and entirely depends on the talents of the people employed; there's no long-term success if employees don't prove themselves good enough in the short-term.continuity and stability breeds success.
He is. We need to accept that and get behind the team. Maybe, just maybe, things will improve.He's here for the rest of the season or until it's physically impossible for us to get 4th.
Fair enough, the behaviour and matter of expressing this is however ridiculous.Come off it, people are rightly worried that the clubs doing nothing to address the worst run of form we've been on since the 30s.
That's some North Korean thinking.He is. We need to accept that and get behind the team. Maybe, just maybe, things will improve.
Problem is, When we are getting behind the team that buffoon makes it look like we are behind him aswell, which sends the wrong message to the board.He is. We need to accept that and get behind the team. Maybe, just maybe, things will improve.
That's true but over the 'long term' of LVG's career he has been a proven winner. The club, I think, are looking to the long term rather than for quick fixes. They should be supported in doing that. Now of course I could be proved wrong. He might be sacked this afternoon!That's extremely debatable, and entirely depends on the talents of the people employed; there's no long-term success if employees don't prove themselves good enough in the short-term.
Anyway, the board might be overlooking an important aspect of this process: we're going to lose fans, potential or longstanding, if the football doesn't satisfy. We even see it here on the Caf - increasingly, posters are finding other things to do rather than watch United matches - and this has little to do with our declining form.