Thiago Silva: PL is a step down for Ibra

Lebowski said:
Well said. It's mental that anyone would ever really try and argue that Chelsea are a 'bigger' team than Spurs in terms of anything other than recent on-field success/spending power.

Spurs have always been a fantastically supported club despite the ludicrous ticket prices.

Just to complete the Spurs love-in, thanks to your lot at the fanzines for lobbying to get our away allocation upped. Decent atmosphere on Sunday, at least for the first half anyway...
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Over on the 'newbies' board there seem to be this really strange view that Spurs fans can't stand Utd. As a general rule it's completely not true, I mean seriously it's really only been Utd (a couple of years of City) that have been stopping Arsenal and Chelsea winning everything over the last 15 years or so, so who do they think us Spurs fans have been rooting for nearly every season?
 
PSG is the luckiest team on earth. First they get Ronaldinho then infinitely wealthy owners. They can feck off.
 
SirHenryPercy said:
I suppose if you're not from London and know little of London football then pre Abramovich/Harding you could place Spurs and Chelsea as similar, although I don't think Spurs were playing in front of crowds of 10-15000. Matthew Harding in circa 93/94 rescued Chelsea for the 2nd time in about 10 years, they had a smallish fan base (in London still do) and a pretty ordinary history, as a Londoner I will always see West Ham as bigger than Chelsea, but fair play to Harding he loved the club and transformed them. But Chelsea have never been a big club in London let alone anywhere else, but for the last 20 odd years they have been one of the richest clubs on the planet which makes them important and meaning their fan base has grown probably a hundred fold.

As for Liverpool City there's just no comparison, no amount of money or trophys will make city bigger than Liverpool.
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Depends on where you cut off history. Cut off during Chelsea's lowest ebb in the late 80's/early 90's and you get the idea the picture you paint about the size of support. Do it properly and not through agenda driven stats and you realise there is little to no difference between support levels of Chelsea and Spurs throughout each clubs history.
 
SirHenryPercy said:
Over on the 'newbies' board there seem to be this really strange view that Spurs fans can't stand Utd. As a general rule it's completely not true, I mean seriously it's really only been Utd (a couple of years of City) that have been stopping Arsenal and Chelsea winning everything over the last 15 years or so, so who do they think us Spurs fans have been rooting for nearly every season?
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:lol: It's more so Arsenal and Chelsea preventing us from winning everything in the past 15 years or so. Don't pretend as if we weren't the most dominant team in the past 15 years or so. So it's easy to see why Spurs fans might not like us, just like the rest of the PL.
 
Well when you get knocked out of the champions League by a not so hot City team. I'd say that negates your shit view. That team is a bunch of passives that know they will win the league every year. I don't want any of the near us, and that includes Zlatan
 
Wade3 said:
:lol: It's more so Arsenal and Chelsea preventing us from winning everything in the past 15 years or so. Don't pretend as if we weren't the most dominant team in the past 15 years or so. So it's easy to see why Spurs fans might not like us, just like the rest of the PL.
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I hope he's messed up his words there's, cause otherwise it's a car crash of a post:lol:
 
Wade3 said:
:lol: It's more so Arsenal and Chelsea preventing us from winning everything in the past 15 years or so. Don't pretend as if we weren't the most dominant team in the past 15 years or so. So it's easy to see why Spurs fans might not like us, just like the rest of the PL.
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:lol: Talk about trying your best to interpret a post to fit your agenda. Like everybody else I'm fully aware of who the most successful team has been over the last 15 years or more, it's pretty clear that I'm saying that's a relief for us because if it wasn't for you being so then Arsenal and Chelsea would have won a lot more.

As for the whole league doesn't like us it just sounds like wishful thinking and desperately wanting everybody to be jealous or something. The reality is quite different I'm afraid, I can only speak generally for Spurs fans but we have enough fierce rivalries going on in London to be crying in our cornflakes if Utd win a trophy, especially when it's more often than not been at the expense of the teams we really don't like.
 
The team doesn't seem to have another gear when the going gets tough. That's what happen when you play in a shite league.
 
Fell asleep after the first 30 minutes. Their play reminded me so much of us under Van Gaal.

Ibra should go to the States or China. He would a destructive influence on a team in the PL when things don't go his way in the league; which they won't.
 
The irony of the game is that it proves the opposite of what Silva was saying and that the pace and fight of the PL might not be what Ibra should get himself into at 35+.

Whatever quality the PL may or may not have, he'd be in for a tough time of it every single week, as opposed to the cantering procession Ligue 1 has been for him.

PSG looked shell-shocked out there playing against a competitive team with enough about them to dominate the game for periods of time. It serves as a reminder for their players that even if they have the ability to be playing elsewhere, they're losing their edge via not being tested for the majority of the season. Not that those on obscene contracts they wouldn't get anywhere else but China care, mind.
 
Fortitude said:
The irony of the game is that it proves the opposite of what Silva was saying and that the pace and fight of the PL might not be what Ibra should get himself into at 35+.

Whatever quality the PL may or may not have, he'd be in for a tough time of it every single week, as opposed to the cantering procession Ligue 1 has been for him.

PSG looked shell-shocked out there playing against a competitive team with enough about them to dominate the game for periods of time. It serves as a reminder for their players that even if they have the ability to be playing elsewhere, they're losing their edge via not being tested for the majority of the season. Not that those on obscene contracts they wouldn't get anywhere else but China care, mind.
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Well said and I totally agree with your points. Ibra would never get the time and freedome in the prem compared to what he has ligue 1 and like many have said at 35 would his body cope with the prem?, my view rather unlikely.
 
Funny how many here are so wound up because a player dared not to butter up the EPL in an interview. Shocking!
 
Well, City beat PSG and Rashford beat City.

Does this mean Rashford > Zlatan?
 
Thiago Silva should have waited for a possible victory over City before saying those things just to avoid looking like a tit. PSG are a good team but they're way too isolated in the Ligue 1 and don't have a very good motivator in Blanc to prepare them for matches like these. Bayern are a bit like this in terms of domestic domination and although they still perform better than PSG in Europe (better players + better coach), they still find it tough.
This is a big failure and the end of a cycle for many of PSG's again stars (Zlatan, Silva, Motta)
 
Thiago Silva " Why did you join PSG then?"
David Luiz ; " Well, you're my mate, easy money, guaranteed trophies, put a little bit of effort in the spring and we might get past the quarters in the CL"
TS " Yeah, suppose, but getting a bit repetitive and boring"
DL " Just look at your bank balance. Look, if you want a bit of incentive, let's try and win Ligue 1 by January and we can virtually coast through the season apart from the CL games"
 
Cheesy said:
Teams have bad games. If City completely wipe the floor and piss all over PSG tonight then, yeah, I'd happily admit to being wrong, but I don't think that one draw (which they hardly scraped considering City led for a total of under five minutes), doesn't mean that City are as good as, or better than PSG. I mean, if we're going by that logic then I could easily point to PSG disposing of Chelsea last season, who were comfortably the best side in the league.

Looking at PSG's squad though, their dominance in the league, and generally decent CL form compared to any other English sides over the past couple of years, I'd struggle to argue that any PL side is better than them, or as good as them either. I'd certainly expect them to win the PL if you placed their squad into it right now, and I expect they'd comfortably be ahead of City.
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Of course they scraped through - one goal was gifted to them, the other was offside, they shoud've had a man sent off and they were awarded a soft penalty.

And now they are out - losing to the 4th placed PL team that are 15 points off the pace. Yet you claim they are 'undoubtedly' better than all English teams? Thats laughable.
 
Gio said:
What's with the misleading thread title?

All he says is that PSG are better than any English club at the moment. Which was pretty obvious last year when they turned over Chelsea with 10 men.
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Its pretty obvious that they aren't better than City, let alone the 3 teams above City.
 
Fergus' son said:
Its pretty obvious that they aren't better than City, let alone the 3 teams above City.
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I'd much rather have the PSG squad over City. Just because they underperformed in the CL doesn't change that
 
Fergus' son said:
Its pretty obvious that they aren't better than City, let alone the 3 teams above City.
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On the basis of the last couple of seasons or so I'd place PSG ahead of any English team. Now on the basis of the last 90 minutes or so perhaps that's not the case. But I think they've ran out of gas after winning the league, especially having lost their midfield and ultimately played City at the wrong time. That doesn't mean that with the wind in their favour they'd have pumped them, but there's enough to suggest over the last couple of years, the players at their disposal, and the performances they've been turning out, that they have the edge over the top English sides - none of whom are currently close to fulfilling their potential. Leicester and Spurs are, but you might struggle to convince anyone that those two are better than PSG.
 
VanGaalEra said:
Player acts like a dick in an interview, gets laughed at. Shocking!
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Since when is valuing the club you play at more than others acting like a dick?

It's not like he was trashtalking anyone.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
It isn't stacked up by any real evidence though, unlike the cold hard facts that I posted.
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While PSG have knocked out two English teams in their last three ties versus English clubs. Is that also a cold hard fact?

City have had a poor season - they haven't won back-to-back fixtures in the league since the start of October (when they faced Bournemouth and Newcastle at home) until last weekend. That's six months of league football broken up by inconsistent and underwhelming performances. After being completely dogshite in Europe for several years, this is the first season they have actually had any backbone. We mock PSG for falling out at the quarter-finals over the last few years, but City's level has largely been group stage fodder for some time. Meanwhile, United, Liverpool and Chelsea are all under performing and falling massively short in the league. And their European showings haven't been that much better. Arsenal too have not fulfilled their potential and are miles away from contending for the Champions League. Spurs and Leicester have had good seasons but neither has any credibility in Europe. It's hardly a great era for English clubs and I struggle to think which of the above are better than PSG.
 
Remember when Silva claimed PSG were bigger than United when they signed ADM?
Good times...
 
Gio said:
While PSG have knocked out two English teams in their last three ties versus English clubs. Is that also a cold hard fact?

City have had a poor season - they haven't won back-to-back fixtures in the league since the start of October (when they faced Bournemouth and Newcastle at home) until last weekend. That's six months of league football broken up by inconsistent and underwhelming performances. After being completely dogshite in Europe for several years, this is the first season they have actually had any backbone. We mock PSG for falling out at the quarter-finals over the last few years, but City's level has largely been group stage fodder for some time. Meanwhile, United, Liverpool and Chelsea are all under performing and falling massively short in the league. And their European showings haven't been that much better. Arsenal too have not fulfilled their potential and are miles away from contending for the Champions League. Spurs and Leicester have had good seasons but neither has any credibility in Europe. It's hardly a great era for English clubs and I struggle to think which of the above are better than PSG.
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PSG have been knocked out by English sides twice in the last four years.
But yeah....
 
hobbers said:
Only have to look at how David Luiz, Marquinhos and Silva nonchalantly pass the ball about in CL matches to know how desperately shite Ligue 1 is.

Even when they misplace a pass, which happens frequently, you can see none of them are remotely bothered, because they get away with it every week domestically. Same story with their positioning. It's the sort of defence that could ship 5 goals to West Ham and Stoke. The world cup final every single week.
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You mean like ours tonight :)
 
hobbers said:
Only have to look at how David Luiz, Marquinhos and Silva nonchalantly pass the ball about in CL matches to know how desperately shite Ligue 1 is.

Even when they misplace a pass, which happens frequently, you can see none of them are remotely bothered, because they get away with it every week domestically. Same story with their positioning. It's the sort of defence that could ship 5 goals to West Ham and Stoke. The world cup final every single week.
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Spot on!
 
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