I've noticed any increasing trend for players to put hands on the referee. They need to clamp this out immediately, the Brighton Fulham game last Friday was completely unacceptable.
Jamie Vardy
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Aye, that was ridiculous and really infuriated me at the time.
I don't think the two things are mutually exclusive. Vardy engineered the contact and should've been booked but Rafael was stupid to be caught in that position and even more stupid to get sucked in.
I'm torn on this one as I'd like to see more bans for such behaviour but at the same time they're so inconsistent it's unfair to cherry pick and have such a big influence on the league.
The only reason he's got banned is because of the media focus on them right now which is ludicrous. Although I'm sure the FA would be keen for this to go down to the wire and for Spurs to win it.
The only reason he's got banned is because of the media focus on them right now which is ludicrous. Although I'm sure the FA would be keen for this to go down to the wire and for Spurs to win it.
I don't wholeheartedly disagree, but what else was Rafael able to do? Give Vardy the time and space to pick any pass?
Fact is - Vardy engineered it all. He dived. So Rafael really didn't do much, if anything wrong, other than maybe being outwitted/a bit naive?
I think someone did sum it up well - it was refereeing the player and not the match/incident.
Ps where you hanging around these days? Hardly see you post much. Hope you're well man.
Vardy being out for three matches really is annoying for them. It would be a shame if him not being available was a deciding factor on the title race. Particularly with such double standards in relation to the reason for the extended ban.
3 games? where does that come from. as far as I know the obviuos penalty would be a two game ban which includes the red card.
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Yes, but it could be 3 games, doesn't have to be.
I absolutely hate this and get the impression that they're trying to send a message along the lines of, "pull yourself together and make the right call." As much as people on here hate referees like Cüneyt Çakır (one who sent Nani off against Real), I do prefer referees who don't allow themselves to be intimidated, even if they come across as a big arrogant at times.
Cüneyt Çakır is one of the worst referees in the game.
Nothing to do with the Nani red card. He's produced some more ridiculous decisions since then. Though this was a great decisiion by him.
Nothing to do with the Nani red card. He's produced some more ridiculous decisions since then. Though this was a great decisiion by him.
If you say so.
we are a fickle lot
how have we mysteriously arrived at the view that Vardy is being harshly treated,
we totally hated the bloke like no other a few days ago
how have we mysteriously arrived at the view that Vardy is being harshly treated,
we totally hated the bloke like no other a few days ago
Stop it b.
Vardy is the reason i dont want Leicester to win the league. I would like nothing more than to see him cry on the last day of the season so i can point and laugh
He was fouled, and then didn't foul. He could hardly have done anything else in his position.
This.
He was fouled, lost his head and went charging into the box to get the ball back. Vardy knew he would and stopped so Rafael could barge him over.
It was a dive, but Rafael's stupidity, naivety and rash behaviour meant it was always going to get given.
Take your United-tinted spectacles off and realise Rafael was a fecking idiot and he cost us.
But he didn't touch him.
And it's amazing that he "cost us" in a 5-3 defeat where 4 of the opposition goals were scored from our left flank.
All this is a blow for Leicester. If Spurs win all their games I think they may win the league. I could see Leicester losing to us and drawing another which would then see them lose it on goal difference. Not really sure Ulloa can do the business.
Why would the fa be keen for us to win it?
Only in the sense that it could be seen to diminish the brand if Leicester win it. Spurs at least are already a big club that they can market.
The vardy on Rafa is amazing. I wouldn't blame Rafael personally. Vardy used force and then cheated. If the ref or officials fall for that? They're stupid. People say it all evens itself out but these officials sometimes abuse power. We saw Dean with Mata earlier in the season - Dean was absurd because there is no common sense there. Vardy dived - but I think the ref could call him over and say, anymore of that and you are off. But to book him? Harsh, it's harsh because refs do what they want. So many times it goes unpunished. But sometimes you have to take the game into account. No one was calling for Vardy to get sent off. It wasn't that kind of game. So Moss made a decision but I think it was a decision he didn't have to make. As for swearing at the ref? Again, I think it's because some refs don't know how to talk to people. All officials get sworn at. In the heat of the moment it happens. Players cheat all the time. Teams try to win throw in's when it's not there's. People get in the ear of ref's to create a history that suits them. I think it's harsh, but I am glad he will miss our game at Old Trafford.
People still harping on about Vardy-Rafa incident. Holy shit.
Let it go guys.
Let it go guys.
So if you scream 'you effin C' in the refs face it's his own fault for not knowing how to talk to you?
Conversely Leicester winning it could be marketed as proof that the league is so competitive that anyone can win it - even a club that only avoided relegation by a hair's breadth last year. Everyone has a chance to dream.
That's great for the fans and I agree but the premier league when they come to sell all their image rights etc will make less money of Jamie Vardy than someone like Kane, Rooney. I'd have thought so anyway just an assumption but you only have to look how much Rooney is talked up still.
I wasn't calling conspiracy just that they conceivably have a vested interested and cherry picking the Vardy incident for punishment is a little dubious.
I said he could easily have pulled him over and had a word with him. Do you think under those circumstances, he would have still said that? In addition to that, I think it's a situation that could have been avoided. No one was calling for a sending off. What he did against Rafa was worse. There's no consistency. Players swearing in the heat of the moment? Let's face it...whether we like him or not - it's the biggest moment in the clubs history. The biggest moment in his life. It could have been avoided quite easily. Now I would think different if we saw refs book players for diving - week after weekbut they do it on a whim. When they fancy. It's bullshit. I would be surprised if he said nothing after being sent off in one of the biggest games in his life.
Why should he pull him over and have a word with him? He was on a yellow card and went for a blatant dive to cheat a penalty out of the ref. If the ref is 100% certain it's a dive it's a mandatory yellow card, it's was such a clear and obvious dive he gave the ref no choice, so why the need for a chat? You cheated, you've been booked already so off you go.
As for swearing in the refs face like that, it was disgusting.
On the contrary: Leicester winning the league would be the greatest Cinderella story in all of sport that has endless promotional potential for the league as a package.
I think it ushers in this new era (Pep, Mou, Poch etc) absolutely perfectly for the league.
He's the reason I hope Leicester feck it up...can't stand the feral looking cnut...
Making a fecking movie about him? fecking hell, that would be shit...the first hour would just be him working at Asda, and then abusing Chinese people at his local Chippy...I can't see how they'd make a movie about his "story"...
Making a fecking movie about him? fecking hell, that would be shit...the first hour would just be him working at Asda, and then abusing Chinese people at his local Chippy...I can't see how they'd make a movie about his "story"...
I really don't see how the Vardy incident could be described a "cherry picking". He was on a yellow card already and did what he did in the full knowledge of that. Maybe he thought that because he's been getting away with it for so long he was untouchable, I don't know. It's not as though it was a straight red for some innocuous action. His reaction to the referee left the FA with no alternative, given how they've punished others in the past for similar actions.
And I think he was warned for a couple of previous challenges too. He was given every chance not to be a div and he blew it.
I was only referring to the ban for his language not the red card which he obviously deserved.
It's factually correct to say they've punished others for similar offences but that ignores all the times they don't. It happens constantly and only a handful of players have ever been charged, Smith and Rooney are the only ones I can recall. Terry would hardly play if they were consistent...
He had already been sent off when the swearing started. The other thing they do like (with some relative consistency) is players leaving the field reasonably quietly when they have gotten the red card.
This ''poor old Vardy is getting picked on'' narrative is even more full of holes than the argument that the FA are ruthlessly consistent & know what they're doing.
This ''poor old Vardy is getting picked on'' narrative is even more full of holes than the argument that the FA are ruthlessly consistent & know what they're doing.
I suppose it has to be viewed in the context of what he actually said to Moss, and that is what we don't know.
Totally agree... except after trying hard for the last 8 months I've managed to overcome this issue and now hope they win despite him.
Also training myself to put aside my natural disgust for the man given the fact that he's 50% of our chances of getting anywhere at all at the Euros.
and THAT'S the issue (not that Vardy didn't deserve his red or to get cited for swearing). It's not Moss's fault that few players get PROPERLY penalised?
The game has grown so much in 20-ish years (especially the pay and the publicity) that players are spoiled and lots of players/fans are peed when refs do the right thing! I'd be quite happy if pre-season, players and managers were told what was what and let the cards flow.... I reckon it would take a couple of months.
Also, put mikes on refs like rugby...
I have no time for him either. As well as his antics in the Leicester-United game last year, he just comes across as a bit of a prick.
It's a bit like Tyson Fury is it. You don't want to treat footballers as role models, but at the same time you shouldn't celebrate and venerate people who act like d*ickheads.
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