Obviously they are, more than 200m out of the 380m comeback in the UK and a large part of the rest is available at all time.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Why on earth would any country want to be part of Europe in its current form. The popular view of Europe is not the reality. Look what happened in Ireland when we voted against the Lisbon treaty, we were told to revote and threatened with expulsion. When our banks failed we were told by the EU (mostly Germany) that we couldnt burn the major bank shareholders, who were mostly German and then the average person was lumped with the debt. It put our economy in rag order! Then they came in and forced us to make unfair cuts to the services for the most needy in society. Hospitals, schools, special needs, carers, you name it!!! While at the same time they pay themselves in Luxembourg, Strasbourg, Brussels and wherever else well over 1/4 of a million euros in salaries.
They make millions selling us cars, bank loans with little care for assets to back up the debt. People working in supermarkets being given mortgages by banks for over half a million euros. But they protect themselves. They force your agriculture industry to stop growing the most profitable cash crops because oh guess what, they grow them too. Quota! They kill your indigenous industries like fishing. But hey, here's a road... What the feck is that.
Its a bloated crazy system that needs to be stopped.
They make millions selling us cars, bank loans with little care for assets to back up the debt. People working in supermarkets being given mortgages by banks for over half a million euros. But they protect themselves. They force your agriculture industry to stop growing the most profitable cash crops because oh guess what, they grow them too. Quota! They kill your indigenous industries like fishing. But hey, here's a road... What the feck is that.
Its a bloated crazy system that needs to be stopped.
Well, GB just did the same thing.
I know not all of you see the irony here, so I do apologize for any offense taken, but it's still there.
All you can do is laugh really, I would have never thought this would really happen.
Yup, the UK can't be compared to them. People don't get it
Personally I think the best way to have negotiated change was from within and to those who voted on the strength of us having power with a Leave vote might be in for a few surprises.
Yeah man, being xenophobic (which you pretty much admitted in your previous post) doesn't tend to look good in Western countries. Neither being led by religious nutters who want to ban abort.
They didn't think they'd win, underestimated the British intelligence levels, they even cancelled their own celebration party.
Now they have won, they have absolutely no idea what to do next.
I was unconcerned by the status quo personally. But I don't think negotiating change from within that the British would be happy with was possible.
Lot of bullshit right there as well.
And as far as I'm aware, your economy does fare quite well again doesn't it?
By the way, partly because the EU allows you dumping taxes. So it's not like you are not trying to screw others over, everyone does it, get off your high horse.
Nah marketing.
Yeah, that. I don't like the Afd either and tell them to feck off as well. And these are Germans.
So just because I want control over who comes in, who comes out I'm xenophobic? Do one, please. You either accept our state of mind or you're a xenophobic, racist, nazi fascist bigot. Christ.
State of this place.
Edit: actually that's funny. Given how often it is repeated here that how dare Poland even think of leaving because we've benefitted from being the part of EU (which we haven't left yet, mind you, as you are acting as we just set shit on fire) and constant repetition of how we flooded the UK and now want to leave is idiotic, that we are dumb, is quite xenophobic itself, so it's a beautiful irony in all of it. Showing your true colours there, no?
If you want to do it based on ethnicity, which you alluded to in your post, then yeah.
So just because I want control over who comes in, who comes out I'm xenophobic? Do one, please. You either accept our state of mind or you're a xenophobic, racist, nazi fascist bigot. Christ.
State of this place.
If any the Eu will stick together even more to spite the British, and above all it's the right thing to do. United they stand and all that
If the EU is disbanding the world's economy will collapse, if a nation thinking of being a martyr and going out on their own accord... behold britain, see that demise across the strait?
I can't believe the UK are that stupid, such a big decision, feck even if you want out at least you do it properly not broadcast it live on telly
If the EU is disbanding the world's economy will collapse, if a nation thinking of being a martyr and going out on their own accord... behold britain, see that demise across the strait?
I can't believe the UK are that stupid, such a big decision, feck even if you want out at least you do it properly not broadcast it live on telly
Norwegian Prime Minister, Erna Solberg, has said that Britons wishing to leave the European Union next week “won’t like” life on the outskirts of the 28-member state bloc.
It will come as a blow to Eurosceptics and Leave campaigners who often cite Norway’s relationship with the EU as the model for Britain to emulate. Norway, which rejected joining the bloc at a referendum in 1994, has access to the majority of the continent’s market and is part of the European Economic Area (EEA) agreement.
In return Norway is obliged to be part of Europe’s passport-free Schengen travel zone. Norwegians also have no say in EU rules and have no representatives in any of the bloc’s institutions despite paying a considerable amount (£623m) each year for its semi-detached relationship with the EU.
So just because I want control over who comes in, who comes out I'm xenophobic? Do one, please. You either accept our state of mind or you're a xenophobic, racist, nazi fascist bigot. Christ.
State of this place.
Isn't that pretty much the definition of xenophobia?
And by the way, what immigration trouble does Poland have? How many people from other countries want to go there, and how many Polish wants to go in EU in the other hand?
Pretty clear it is right wing (borderline fascist) propaganda by some religious nutters there. f only you put walls in Poland and rule by the Bible, all it would be good. feck the economy, who cares about it anyway?!
You just don't want to share your women. Selfish.
So just because I want control over who comes in, who comes out I'm xenophobic? Do one, please. You either accept our state of mind or you're a xenophobic, racist, nazi fascist bigot. Christ.
State of this place.
Now we'll never know
Especially funny since his people have been working all over Europe for decades and profited massively from freedom of movement. They are pretty much among the 3 biggest minorities in every major European country.
So either way Cameron or Johson has their position strengthened. Have they got what they wanted all along, or have I been reading too many of Nani's conspiracy posts?
Very few Brits would be willing to accept the high taxes and prices which Norwegians live with (not to mention we don't have the natural resources or small population of Norway).
Are you absolving Irish banks and politicians of all wrong doing here? Europe is far from perfect and in need of serious reform but the vast majority of Ireland's issues were created by our own internal greed and lack of foresight. Our economy was in rag order before we entered austerity and as @fcbforever said we were starting to come out the other side.
Yup populist view of EU is the people and friends they've made across Europe as opposed the EU governance which is a Lobbyists wet dream.
facts, facts, facts....boring, boring, boring
Polish people complaining about immigration
you couldn't make this up!
Yeah. They have benefited too much from EU, and he gets offended by being called xenophobic, just after he said that 'immigration to homogeneous countries is a concern'. That is pretty much right there with 'I am not racist, but those feckers there are black'.
They have not taken ANY refugees. So, they do not have any problems. 99,7% of people living in Poland do have a Polish passport, 95,8% identify themselves as Polish. Feck, I mean, he's talking about Switzerland as a role model when they do have one of the highest percentages of migrants anywhere in the world
Could not have gone any better, leave the EU and the pig shagger has fecked off as well
Yeah, it reminds me of Christian Americans complaining about how discriminated Christians are in US.facts, facts, facts....boring, boring, boring
Polish people complaining about immigration
you couldn't make this up!
No, we don't. That'd be incredibly stupid on our part, we've benefited a lot from being in the EU, probably more than most other countries. If you had the same referendum here now, we'd definitely vote stay.
The outburst in Poland over possibility of a few thousand immigrants from Syria etc. coming in was absolutely hilarious. It's like people here truly believed that a) they would come here and live here, willingly, b) would cause any major trouble.
Just as a bit of insight, Ireland is pretty much talked about as the role model of reviving your economy after an crisis at German universities. There has been fallout of course, but I'm pretty impressed really. Not only by the economy, but also by the attitude of a lot of Irish people.
My mother studied in Ireland and we have quite a lot of frieds over there.
It was like "yeah we fecked up, let's clean up that mess and get out of it". Wish we would be more like that sometimes.
I understand the criticism but at the same I'm perplexed when it comes from England who are the undisputed princes of lobbyism right after King USA, it's baffling from the outside.
Do no ever underestimate the power of lunatics. All they need is a nationalist and/or religious campaign, and they will lose their collective senses ASAP.
What a shit morning. A campaign won based on a bunch of lies (which Farage has already started going back on) and a narrow mentality.
Get ready for 2 years of financial uncertainty and a lack of investment from overseas into our markets... London and our financial sector in particular will be hit pretty hard.
Get ready for 2 years of financial uncertainty and a lack of investment from overseas into our markets... London and our financial sector in particular will be hit pretty hard.
No, being concerned that a homogenous-through-centuries nation like Polish (who was not homogenous during our times of Union with Lithuania or probably prior to II World War when there were plenty of Jews lived in Poland, with whom we had absolutely no problem asimilating, mind you), who is pretty much alien to the concept of ethnically-diverse society as seen in i.a. GB or France (due to their colonialist history), might not cope with such excellence as already mentioned GB or France is not xenophobic.
And what immigration trouble we have? Now that's something you'd actually hear from somebody as ignorant as you Revan. Ever heard of Ukraine crisis? You think that Ukrainians flee where exactly? Our government has adopted a pretty Ukrainian-friendly policy that helps them, there are plenty of Ukrainians who migrated here in last years and they need help too. This is something that is completly dissembled in the West as it doesn't fit the 'Poland is bad because they don't want immigration!!!' agenda.
And yeah, keep calling names on us, calling us fascists, bigots controlled by religion (which one though? Pope Francis constantly urges everybody to accept all of the immigrants) of hate, talk shit. I couldn't give a shit as you're a pretty sad person in my book.
Our country (Ireland) has prospered in the EU far more than it ever would have outside it and continue to reap benefits from it. Are you also forgetting that when we royally fecked ourselves in the recession, we got a €70 billion bailout from them? The EU may not be perfect but to question why anyone would be a part of it is downright ignorant.
Just wanted to say I thought this was a very rational post and makes a nice contrast to some of the complete insanity others are spouting.
This weekend or Monday must be a good time to go shopping in the U.K., right?
Yes of course there can be treaties and pacts. But you think that there would be almost a million Polish people in the UK in a treaty signed between the two outside of the EU?
Yes I know but you do realise that there can be treaties, pacts, whatever made outside of European Union, right? I mean, given that GB is out now there will be some I guess.
It certainly will and I think this is probably your biggest problem. London is the financial centre of the EU and probably the most important city in the world aside from New York. Without the EU that simply will not be the case anymore.
It's probably one area Ireland will benefit hugely from though seeing as we're now the only English speaking country left in the EU.