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Pretty sure he's talking about reports of Bastian training with the reserves (which he claims has never happened at Bayern). Not the fact that he's been asked to leave. You should add that in the title and OP as it's very misleading at the moment.

Lets face it, if Giggs or Scholes left to join Bayern and were forced to train with the reserves a season later, our response would have been similar.
It'd have looked fecking weird if Woodward starts suddenly commenting on Bayern's matters.
 

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Telling a player he is not wanted is fine (Götze). But degrading a German legend to the reserves is another story. Cant people see the difference? Sure Rummenigge is obviously taking a dig and talking a bit bollocks, but there is still a difference between how you handle such situations.
Yeah, but announcing a new manager mid season is A-OK!
 

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He was more than just "told he wasn't wanted". He's been cast away from training with the squad and his locker reportedly moved.

All for what, being allowed to take trips to Germany when injured and watch his gf play tennis. It's not what we like to see, but it was allowed under LVG. Don't attack Schweinsteiger all of a sudden when he hasn't had a chance to play under Mourinhos rules to prove he can adapt. It's daft.
Agreed, there's been no respect shown by Mourinho to Bastian at all. He should be a great influence in the dressing room even if we don't plan on starting him. The man is the holder of the record of most appearances in World Cup and European Championship.

Very small minded of Mourinho, maybe he's afraid to have a leader that players would respect more than him on the pitch and dressing room.
 

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The guy seems obsessed with United, last summer when we were interested in Muller he was talking to the press about it on almost a daily basis.
 

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Agreed, there's been no respect shown by Mourinho to Bastian at all. He should be a great influence in the dressing room even if we don't plan on starting him. The man is the holder of the record of most appearances in World Cup and European Championship.

Very small minded of Mourinho, maybe he's afraid to have a leader that players would respect more than him on the pitch and dressing room.
Perhaps Mourinho thinks that he'll be a good influence for the reserves, who after all are expected to step up a level to challenge for a place in the main squad. ;)
 

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Oh, and don't forget that they 'let Basti join us to fulfill his dreams' rather than let him go because Pep didn't fancy him and wouldn't get half as much playing time in his crock-career as he did for us, which was not even 20 games.

What a great club full of warm-hearted, fantastic people they are.
 

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Right i haven't followed this Mourinho-Schweinsteiger thing at all are there any rumours knocking about as to why Jose doesn't want/like Bastian?
 

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Oh, and don't forget that they 'let Basti join us to fulfill his dreams' rather than let him go because Pep didn't fancy him and wouldn't get half as much playing time in his crock-career as he did for us, which was not even 20 games.
Bastian wanted to join United in 2010 already, so it really was one of his maingoals for his career. But he wanted to win the Champions League with Bayern first (also his paycheck got much better) so he extended his contract (against all odds).
 

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Bastian wanted to join United in 2010 already, so it really was one of his maingoals for his career. But he wanted to win the Champions League with Bayern first (also his paycheck got much better) so he extended his contract (against all odds).
Oh shit, how conveniently it all added up for you and him then.
 

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Perhaps Mourinho thinks that he'll be a good influence for the reserves, who after all are expected to step up a level to challenge for a place in the main squad. ;)
I assume the smiley face means that's a joke. Maybe Mourinho is under pressure to lower our wage bill as it must be the highest in the country by a distance now.

I can only think that's why he's acting so unprofessionally.
 

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They moved his locker and told him that he won't be training with the first team because he doesn't feature in the manager's plans?

I like Schweinsteiger and would be more than happy if he stayed but excuse me if my heart doesn't bleed for a guy on 200k a week who has had to move a locker and train with the development team... not exactly a hardship is it?

Bayern have got rid of plenty of players in the past they didn't want. Criticising Man Utd under these circumstances is just hypocrisy.

So just because he makes a lot of money he shouldn't be treated with respect ? Let me put it like this - how would it hurt United if he told Schweini - I am not going to play you, but you are welcome to train with the club. If you wish to stay you are welcome to do so.

It's perfectly possible to get rid of someone with respect - Ferguson did it for 20 years. Which is probably why so few of his ex-players say something bad about him
 

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I do wonder though, those from our fans who are so keen to jump the gun probably due o dislike for Mourinho, did anybody consider that that Mou's applying same kind of tactics/methods as Pep did at City?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...verweight-manchester-city-players-from-train/

Schweinsteiger looked way out of shape last season already, sure being at Euros, having no real pre-season due to his marriage/honeymoon and resting period didn't make him lose pounds.
 

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I have to agree. Think even if you're not going to play him often, having Bastian around the players will do wonders for them. He's won everything and is a leader.
he's also probably the highest earner alongside Rooney - that should be spent on someone in the first 11
 

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lol What a clown. Always desperately trying to find reason to drum up the 'Great Bayern Munich' tune and look down on PL. Ya, sure Rummenigge, players will think about a new manager trying to move on a player not in his plan because that never happens in football ever. Also laughable to claim Bayern will never do it.
 

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Rummenigge shouldn't really be commenting on this, mind you. It's none of his business.
 

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We should just send him offers of 100M for Muller every now and then and watch him squirm more.
 

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When Mata was gotten rid off at Chelsea, there wasn't such an outrage. Now, because it is Schweinsteiger, a guy living off his WC winning reputation, people are criticizing Mourinho.

If Mou doesn't want a player that can be moved on, he gets rid. Simple as that. Club comes first in situations like this one. Bayern are actually becoming as cringeworthy of a club as the Spanish duo if not more
 

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Stupid from Rummenigge but Munich are very sensitive about this kind of thing. Maybe if they talked less, Bastian can knuckle down and win a place in the team.
 

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I have to agree. Think even if you're not going to play him often, having Bastian around the players will do wonders for them. He's won everything and is a leader.
This would be my thoughts too, but for all we know they could've had a disagreement and he's having a detrimental effect on the other players now so Jose nipped it in the bud.
 

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So just because he makes a lot of money he shouldn't be treated with respect ? Let me put it like this - how would it hurt United if he told Schweini - I am not going to play you, but you are welcome to train with the club. If you wish to stay you are welcome to do so.

It's perfectly possible to get rid of someone with respect - Ferguson did it for 20 years. Which is probably why so few of his ex-players say something bad about him
He is training with the club. Maybe some would argue that he didn't display a lot of respect for the club and his team mates last season when he was constantly travelling back to Germany and always recovering from his injuries elsewhere away from the squad?

Allowing Schweinsteiger to train and continue playing with the first team if he isn't in his plans creates other issues as well. It creates expectation from the fans and media and countless questions about why he isn't featuring in matches. It even gives the player false hope.

Ferguson got rid of Beckham against his will despite the fact he was desperate to stay at United and is/was a legend amongst the fans. He dropped him for massive matches during our title run-n in favour of playing Solksjaer on the right wing... how's that for respect?
 

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he's also probably the highest earner alongside Rooney - that should be spent on someone in the first 11
We offered him that contract though less than 12 months ago, we can't now use it as a stick to beat him with. We'll end up paying him off and he'll prob return home on reduced wages. I hope Pep doesn't bring him to Citeh, could help their young players adapt to his methods and they love taking our former players
 

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Oh no the manager is behaving like a manager and has told a player he isn't wanted at the club. How dare he treat Schweinsteiger in such an inhumane way. The poor bastard must be going through hell having the kick a ball about with a reserve team. The man must cry himself to sleep in his Cheshire mansion.

Get a fecking grip for crying out loud. Are people really so soft these days.
 

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Yeah, let's pay his wages to be around the players because he's a great guy.

I mean what the feck is this line of reasoning. Let's extend Rooney's contract for next 5 because the players seem to like him. Doesn't even have to play, just pay his wages.
 

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I assume the smiley face means that's a joke.
No, it means that there may be other sides to the story. From the outside looking in, it does look bad. How much of it is truth is hard to know because the only reports we have are from trash tabloids like the Daily Mail who love nothing more than to make us look like villains. If we're talking about Mourinho's apparent lack of professionalism, why should we look past Bastian's? There have been reports that he hasn't been putting in the effort for us that you might expect for someone of his apparent professionalism and salary.

For all we know, Mourinho might simply have told him that he doesn't figure in his first team plans, but given him the opportunity to either find a new club or show his determination to make it back into the first team by training with the reserves.
 

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I bet Bayern will soon place a bid to get him back and he will accept it because he will be given the same salary...yeah right
 

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As if Bayern have never told a player to leave? I personally wouldn't do it in the same way as Mourinho has (with all the shabang about moving lockers and being out the first team training etc. etc.) but at the end of the day, is there a difference? Telling someone they will get no playing time and leaving it at that is just about the same thing as saying you're not wanted, so we won't have you training with our first team. One is subtle, one is just saying it as it is.
 
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When Mata was gotten rid off at Chelsea, there wasn't such an outrage. Now, because it is Schweinsteiger, a guy living off his WC winning reputation, people are criticizing Mourinho.

If Mou doesn't want a player that can be moved on, he gets rid. Simple as that. Club comes first in situations like this one. Bayern are actually becoming as cringeworthy of a club as the Spanish duo if not more
I agree entirely.
 

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I really hate this. If a player wants to force a move, it's perfectly fine and normal these days. If a club wants to get rid of a high earning player who is not in manager's plans, suddenly there's an outrage. By our own fans as well. Ridiculous.
 

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" where you are forced to leave against your own will". Crime of the century, that.
 

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He was more than just "told he wasn't wanted". He's been cast away from training with the squad and his locker reportedly moved.

All for what, being allowed to take trips to Germany when injured and watch his gf play tennis. It's not what we like to see, but it was allowed under LVG. Don't attack Schweinsteiger all of a sudden when he hasn't had a chance to play under Mourinhos rules to prove he can adapt. It's daft.
Is Mourinho really obliged to give him that opportunity though?

I am sure he has watched him and decided from that, is he not allowed to do that as manager though?
 

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They moved his locker and told him that he won't be training with the first team because he doesn't feature in the manager's plans?

I like Schweinsteiger and would be more than happy if he stayed but excuse me if my heart doesn't bleed for a guy on 200k a week who has had to move a locker and train with the development team... not exactly a hardship is it?

Bayern have got rid of plenty of players in the past they didn't want. Criticising Man Utd under these circumstances is just hypocrisy.
Ah yes. The whole "he's earning money so what do I care" comment.

Christ. He's a footballer and wants to play games. He's been shown utter disrespect by being shafted to the kiddies pool. Bayern may well tell players they aren't needed but they don't cast them away in training & physically move their dressing room lockers to reserves. Unless I've missed an example along the lines.