Rummenigge: Some players may think about it in future, to join a club like this.

[K2K]

Pretty sure he's talking about reports of Bastian training with the reserves (which he claims has never happened at Bayern). Not the fact that he's been asked to leave. You should add that in the title and OP as it's very misleading at the moment.

Lets face it, if Giggs or Scholes left to join Bayern and were forced to train with the reserves a season later, our response would have been similar.

I dont think so. We usually dont speak out a lot(I mean our leaders) and tend to mind our own business, unlike the FC Hollywood Hierachy.

 

[OutlawGER]

I really hate this. If a player wants to force a move, it's perfectly fine and normal these days. If a club wants to get rid of a high earning player who is not in manager's plans, suddenly there's an outrage. By our own fans as well. Ridiculous.

It's not fine. In the same article Rummenigge also critisized Julian Draxler harshly for his interview, where he claimed that he wants to leave Wolfsburg (by force) even though he has just signed last year for 5 years.

 

[Slavkov]

They have ruined the careers of so many talented German players. This, what he says is totally pathetic. For the last 15 years they have been buying the best German players in the most one-sided league in the world (apart from France after the sheikh). They hardly got any minutes and 2-3-4 years later left the club and were absolutely nothing. How did they get rid of Schweini 1 year ago?!? Had he forgotten?

I want to stress once again that the situation here is different. Mou has decided that he does not want the player in the team and he wants to sell him. The player on the other hand does not want to leave because he won't get the money nowhere else and he is not focused on playing anymore, so Schweinsteiger has decided to stay and use the club as a cash cow...What should the manager do? What would you do in Mou's place?!? Personally, I would have done exactly the same...As I have said, Fergie had ruthlessly got rid of absolute legends of this club who have done much much more than a player whose only contributions are one of the highest wages in our team and an equalizer against Leicester that had absolutely no meaning whatsoever...

 

[acnumber9]

I just dislike how one (or more) dickhead(s) in our squad run off to the press to tell stories and suddenly people believe it's gospel that one of the most professional and talented midfielders of his generation is suddenly a lazy so-and-so that spent the final months of last season on holiday pissing about outside of the country with a bad attitude. One side of the story is clearly enough for some people.

This entire situation is just silly.

We can see the fruit of the other side in his performances. He was clearly overweight and not fit enough throughout the season.

 

[NJM78]

I hope he sends Fellaini, Young and Rojo to train with another club.

 

[Henrik Larsson]

It's respectless either way, by which I mean that letting him train with the first team even though he will be forced out 100% before the end of the window isn't really much better.

Forcing him out is probably the correct move, although it's not nice to say he really has to leave. He's probably the midfielder we have most chance of selling and unlucky for him he's also the most injury-prone and the second oldest and on the highest wages. There's nothing to be done, Van Gaal made this mess. If we hadn't had the likes of Herrera, Fellaini and Schneiderlin we could've kept Bastian for another year, but since we have them and they're young and fit I can see why Mourinho would rather keep them as rotation players than Schweini.

 

[sugar_kane]

Rummenigge is often talking shite.

If anything this might send out the message that over the hill players wanting a cushty final pay day are not welcome at Old Trafford (and no, Zlatan cannot be included in this as it's clear the guy still has fire in his belly).

 

[Kostur]

Ah yes. The whole "he's earning money so what do I care" comment.

Christ. He's a footballer and wants to play games. He's been shown utter disrespect by being shafted to the kiddies pool. Bayern may well tell players they aren't needed but they don't cast them away in training & physically move their dressing room lockers to reserves. Unless I've missed an example along the lines.

He's shown the club and the fans utter disrespect by being incredibly unfit last season which, I presume, didn't change positively this season.

He's shown the players and the club utter disrespect by constantly fecking off to Munich instead of socialising with the players, rebuilding his fitness with the squad and indeed training with the squad when he's had a chance.

You don't even know if his shit indeed was moved and if it was, for what reasons but you're talking about utter disrespect. Have a fecking word with yourself.

 

[Green_Red]

Pretty sure he's talking about reports of Bastian training with the reserves (which he claims has never happened at Bayern). Not the fact that he's been asked to leave. You should add that in the title and OP as it's very misleading at the moment.

Lets face it, if Giggs or Scholes left to join Bayern and were forced to train with the reserves a season later, our response would have been similar.

True

 

[Kag]

I didn't say it was gospel. There is obviously something more to the story, however.

I wasn't referring to you in particular. And I'm not sure if there is more to the story. It appears to me to be a simple case of a media leak to some heavy journalists and it's now been accepted as if Schweinsteiger has been some kind of poor and lazy influence. I have a hard time believing that given his entire career in Germany.

 

[ZupZup]

Ah yes. The whole "he's earning money so what do I care" comment.

Christ. He's a footballer and wants to play games. He's been shown utter disrespect by being shafted to the kiddies pool. Bayern may well tell players they aren't needed but they don't cast them away in training & physically move their dressing room lockers to reserves. Unless I've missed an example along the lines.

Why are you acting like a moved locker and training with the younger players is a huge hardship? It's ridiculous.

 

[Kostur]

Pretty sure he's talking about reports of Bastian training with the reserves (which he claims has never happened at Bayern). Not the fact that he's been asked to leave. You should add that in the title and OP as it's very misleading at the moment.

Lets face it, if Giggs or Scholes left to join Bayern and were forced to train with the reserves a season later, our response would have been similar.

So you really think Woodward would be talking shit to the press about other club's treatment of one of our ex players?

 

[OutlawGER]

Pretty sure he's talking about reports of Bastian training with the reserves (which he claims has never happened at Bayern). Not the fact that he's been asked to leave. You should add that in the title and OP as it's very misleading at the moment.

Hmm yeah i thought that was obvious. I made a little edit to make it clear.

 

[Ødegaard]

Bayern is trying hard to become Real Madrid MK2.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

Agreed, there's been no respect shown by Mourinho to Bastian at all. He should be a great influence in the dressing room even if we don't plan on starting him. The man is the holder of the record of most appearances in World Cup and European Championship.

Very small minded of Mourinho, maybe he's afraid to have a leader that players would respect more than him on the pitch and dressing room.

So what???

Why do people keep bringing up his accomplishments at Bayern and with the National team? It means feck all to us at Utd.

All we have to go on is a player who looked overweight and unfit and was constantly injured last season. That's presumably why Mourinho wants him gone.

 

[dichinero]

To make him train with the reserves without even one training session with the first team is really low below the belt!

 

[pacifictheme]

I have to agree. Think even if you're not going to play him often, having Bastian around the players will do wonders for them. He's won everything and is a leader.

Or the special treatment he supposedly got last season in his first year at the club may have caused a rift and its the best thing for everyone (bar him).

That's like saying I would refuse to join a company because one time they sacked someone.

This. Plus you know, we pay ridiculous wages.

 

[Kag]

We can see the fruit of the other side in his performances. He was clearly overweight and not fit enough throughout the season.

He did look a little bigger than I remember from his Bayern days but I thought he still got around the midfield quite well given his injury issues.

I tend to not to get too hung up about the perceived weight of players. Phil Jones always looks out of shape, but given I've never heard a bad thing about his attitude I'm willing to believe it's my perception as opposed to his actual conditioning.

I must point out that I've got no real issue with selling Schweinsteiger if we don't want him. The manner of it all is a bit tasteless, though.

 

[Robbie Boy]

Like seriously. The 'BFS' love-in is absolutely baffling.

Yup. He's a legend of the game and he has had a fantastic career. In his prime, he was one of my favourite players around and I would have loved had we been able to sign him during this peak.

However, I didn't want us to sign him last season as I felt he was past it and wouldn't really add anything. He then went on to have a poor season / clearly struggled with fitness issues. So, I really don't see why people are so upset that we want rid. A legend of the game? Yes. Has he added anything since joining? No. Should we keep him? I'm not particularly fussed either way but if Mourinho doesn't want him and he doesn't feature in his plans, then so be it.

The outrage on here is baffling.

 

[DWelbz19]

. One side of the story is clearly enough for some people.

This entire situation is just silly.

Exactly like it is here, you mean? Where Schweinsteiger and his team are constantly leaking things to the press about how poorly he is being treated? For all we know Mourinho could have told Schweinsteiger this months ago, and the player did nothing in response, and as a result Mourinho has removed him from his squad. Absolutely nothing wrong in that.

 

[Ish]

Bayern seemingly these days, should rebrand themselves with the mighty "Més que un club" slogan. Sitting on their moral high horses like that and all.

 

[flappyjay]

So what???

Why do people keep bringing up his accomplishments at Bayern and with the National team? It means feck all to us at Utd.

All we have to go on is a player who looked overweight and unfit and was constantly injured last season. That's presumably why Mourinho wants him gone.

And he is on superstar wages, so we cant afford to have him stick around as a squad player

 

[OutlawGER]

And he is on superstar wages, so we cant afford to have him stick around as a squad player

Well that's your own fault, isn't it?

 

[Akshay]

Agreed, there's been no respect shown by Mourinho to Bastian at all. He should be a great influence in the dressing room even if we don't plan on starting him. The man is the holder of the record of most appearances in World Cup and European Championship.

Very small minded of Mourinho, maybe he's afraid to have a leader that players would respect more than him on the pitch and dressing room.

He's not a great influence if he's showing up to the start of the season unfit as reported. A player who has won it all and is now resting on his laurels isn't a good example at all. Plus, given LVG's preferential treatment it's quite possible the dressing room even approves of Schweinsteiger being put in his place.

I really doubt Mourinho is afraid of having leaders in his team given the players he has managed.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

Well that's your own fault, isn't it?

That's why we're getting rid

 

[OutlawGER]

That's why we're getting rid

Well both sides just signed a contract. Not much to do if he decides to stay.

 

[Catt]

Rummenigge really has no business commenting on another clubs player. Imagine the outrage if Woodward did this!

 

[K2K]

Real Madrid have been mistreating players and managers for years, and they fall over themselves backwards to go there.

I hardly think Bastian has been mistreated that much. I agree with getting rid, its a pity that this could not have been wrapped up before he came back for preseason.

 

[Wumminator]

Oh man. It hurts to have a club I love getting insulted from all angles like this. Hopefully this will be it for the season though and our management won't continue to cause controversy.

moments like this might change our transfer policy in the future, why on Earth would players sign for us if this is how we treat our own.

Have to admit the class that BS has shown is impressive. Wishing his team mates well, saying he wants to play in the team. Exactly what I want out of a player. Who knows his United career may not be over yet!

 

[Kostur]

Well both sides just signed a contract. Not much to do if he decides to stay.

Yeah, we can, for example, tell him to train with reserves due to lack of fitness.

Oh.

 

[roonster09]

I don't like the way this is handled but this shouldn't be any of bayern's business. There are many cases where players were told to train with reserves but we shouldn't have done it. There is nothing wrong if the players train with first team.

Btw hopefully someone tells these loud mouths to STFU.

 

[Massive Spanner]

Oh man. It hurts to have a club I love getting insulted from all angles like this. Hopefully this will be it for the season though and our management won't continue to cause controversy.

moments like this might change our transfer policy in the future, why on Earth would players sign for us if this is how we treat our own.

Have to admit the class that BS has shown is impressive. Wishing his team mates well, saying he wants to play in the team. Exactly what I want out of a player. Who knows his United career may not be over yet!

You're ridiculous.

 

[Kostur]

You're ridiculous.

Was only matter of time before this wum popped up. Just pretend he didn't write shit.

 

[VorZakone]

Spam his mailbox Woody!

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

Well both sides just signed a contract. Not much to do if he decides to stay.

If he won't leave then he'll probably just be in the reserves then.

I would have been surprised at such a supposed competitor in Schweinsteiger just being happy to take the money but then after watching him half arse it last season it's not a shock really.

 

[K2K]

Well that's your own fault, isn't it?

Thats why we are trying to correct this.

Chelsea did the same with Malouda once, its one way of forcing out a player that doesnt want to go anywhere even when unwanted. Players do somethning similar when they go on strike to force moves.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

I just dislike how one (or more) dickhead(s) in our squad run off to the press to tell stories and suddenly people believe it's gospel that one of the most professional and talented midfielders of his generation is suddenly a lazy so-and-so that spent the final months of last season on holiday pissing about outside of the country with a bad attitude. One side of the story is clearly enough for some people.

This entire situation is just silly.

Without that leak, we'd be none the wiser about what happened. Now we have a reasonable idea. Either way, the same events happen. Why on earth would the fact we know why he's out of favour be the main thing that bothers you about this?

 

[m1y2]

It's just a wise PR statement, Bayern is a big rival when it comes to transfer for us, there is many players we are interested in and Bayern too. Sanches to Bayern might be one of many we lost to them...

when it comes to Sweini per se, he's too similar to Carrick, ageing midfielder, past it, good on the ball immobile as hell, there is no space for him in the squad, Herrera and Schneiderlin will do lots of running what he cant apart other things and obviously there is Pogson his way who will most certainly start, there is no reason to have 4 CM's on the bench and he is certainly one of the palyer who would like to spend the rest of his career playing, he can do that somewhere in Italy...

He was certainly not told to leave like what that asshole from Bayern says, I think it's the same with Mata - told that he no longer is no1 option and might find it hard to get gametime so he might want to leave for his own good

 

[ivaldo]

I would have preferred to have kept him as I think he still has something to offer on the pitch but Mourinho hasn't done a lot wrong here. He's decided he doesn't want him and has told him so. Much like Schweinsteiger decided he wanted to join a different club and told Bayern so.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

Rummenigge really has no business commenting on another clubs player. Imagine the outrage if Woodward did this!

The guy is a convicted criminal. Somehow Bayern don't seem to think that compromises their image.