Jaxdan
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After they leave, or players on other teams, etc.? Yes I would expect you might hear something. Have you?Do you expect them to? While playing for United. To say their captain is stinking the place up or that he's finished.
After they leave, or players on other teams, etc.? Yes I would expect you might hear something. Have you?Do you expect them to? While playing for United. To say their captain is stinking the place up or that he's finished.
This isn't government we are talking about. It's entertainment and private enterprise.Well, technically, it is. The role of the press is to hold the establishment to account. In sporting terms, proper questioning as to why Rooney has a free pass in the United team is a reasonable expectation.
Stopped reading when you said 'I don't think he is finished' - I am afraid those 6 words in that order made the rest of what you wrote wrong, whatever it wasI don't want him as a starter, but I don't think he's finished. Based on performances the majority of our players are finished or simply not good enough, and I don't think that's the case. Rooney is an overpaid squad player nowadays but the main problem at the moment is Mourinho in my opinion, in the same way Van Gaal was before. We don't play football and we don't even try.
With the philosopher we just tried to keep the ball, he was conservative and there was no room for risk and creativity. And this man is setting the team in such a mediocre way now. We sit in the middle of nowhere, we run back to our goal to defend and then we play random balls in attack. Even against Feyenoord with a different system and without Rooney our game was garbage.
We should try a more dynamic play, with more decision and attacking intent, pressing higher. And if some players get tired we can change them in the second half. The way we play now, speculative, adjusting to inferior teams is pathetic and uneffective. I don't think the players buy this approach as it makes them look worse than they are. If I had to say who's finished after this start of the season I'd pick Mourinho before anyone else, but by the moment I think it's better to avoid these final judgements and give time to see how things evolve during the season.
Yes, sure.Stopped reading when you said 'I don't think he is finished' - I am afraid those 6 words in that order made the rest of what you wrote wrong, whatever it was
We tended to get rid of players well before they hit the sort of lows that Rooney is at now, back in the good old days. Probably why it's such an unusual occurrence to us all.My god was he awful today. I have no idea what the hell has happened to him. How can a player of his peak fall to this kind of low. I swear, Ruud or Saha, who he eclipsed in his prime, would probably be more effective options today.
And is it not odd that he actually got my stick from the media when he was in his prime than he does now, when he's utter garbage?
We kept Anderson for like 8 years.We tended to get rid of players well before they hit the sort of lows that Rooney is at now, back in the good old days. Probably why it's such an unusual occurrence to us all.
Well yeah that's my point. Good old days he'd have been gone after about 3 or 4 years.We kept Anderson for like 8 years.
Mark Hughes and Paul Ince certainly wasn't done when Fergie sold them in '95.We tended to get rid of players well before they hit the sort of lows that Rooney is at now, back in the good old days. Probably why it's such an unusual occurrence to us all.
It will boil down to Mou's or Rooney's future at OT and Mou will of course not be daft. And he will also realize that Fellaini is not a DM, no creativity in his passing and he can't fulfil his defensive duties.He looks well past it. Anxious to see how Jose will tackle this. He'l probably remove him slowly from the team.
Should be right away rather than slowly. He's become a waste of space. United are playing with 10 players every game.He looks well past it. Anxious to see how Jose will tackle this. He'l probably remove him slowly from the team.
Fair point. I didn't think he was as bad and yet Rodgers got rid. Unless Rooney got some contractual agreements to suggest he can't be dropped I can't figure out why this is happening.Even Gerrard wasn't this bad.
Has the board been behaving like they do give a feck about the money... Hell we lost 20 millon on Di maria...and couldnt care less.I'm afraid that he's no longer starting calibre material in a team with championship ambitions. But with that salary it's tough to bench him or move him.
Well don't know who can say it. Is there some player who has been long enough to say it other than his pals, Scholes and Nevilles or Rio.After they leave, or players on other teams, etc.? Yes I would expect you might hear something. Have you?
The big problem is that there seems to be a rooney fails video every match. I remember watching the bournemouth and hull (I think it was hull) ones and its obvious this guy is finishedHe's the captain, he's already singled out. It's not underperforming anymore too, that's the thing, you can forgive players being out of form. This is the level he is at for the majority of each season now, and it is shite to see.
Have a look at some of his highlights from the game and try and defend it, especially when it's now par from him.
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Then there is the shoehorning him in, him always passing backwards or right so Zlatan or LW never get any service, his first touch...
He's been performing like this for years now which is the real problemSome of the posts in this thread.
fecking hell.
He's one of many players we have who are under performing. To single him out this much is just mind boggling.
Absolutely, I hope he does as well. Mhkitaryan is in a different league to Rooney. He can beat players, is fast and has that bit of creativity and magic which Rooney doesn't have. Even Mata is a better number 10 than Rooney.Its becoming so obvious that surely he will be dropped soon. We live in hope. Its not just that he's shite its the way we have to move other players around to fit him in. Hopefully Mkhitaryan will take his place in the team.
His salary is kind of irrelevant, irritating as it might be. He was terrible today, but so were many others. We didn't lose just because of Rooney but because we don't have good enough midfield options, Martial is off form and Rashford isn't a winger.On his salary he should be the lead man not just one of many players
I don't get this, his salary isn't irrelevant in the sense that it's £200,000+ per week that we could be paying to a player who deserves it and would perform much better than him. It's especially true for a club that has always liked to keep a relatively low wages to turnover ratio.His salary is kind of irrelevant, irritating as it might be. He was terrible today, but so were many others. We didn't lose just because of Rooney but because we don't have good enough midfield options, Martial is off form and Rashford isn't a winger.
That said, he's clearly unable to raise his game to the point where he deserves to be a regular starter. Either Jose will act or I'm going to start believing he really has got a guaranteed start clause in his contract.
That's the best thing I've seen today. That volley is ridiculous. I never thought I'd laugh at such a pathetic display but i did.He's the captain, he's already singled out. It's not underperforming anymore too, that's the thing, you can forgive players being out of form. This is the level he is at for the majority of each season now, and it is shite to see.
Have a look at some of his highlights from the game and try and defend it, especially when it's now par from him.
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Then there is the shoehorning him in, him always passing backwards or right so Zlatan or LW never get any service, his first touch...
No. He's paid like a world class player. He should perform like oneHis salary is kind of irrelevant, irritating as it might be. He was terrible today, but so were many others. We didn't lose just because of Rooney but because we don't have good enough midfield options, Martial is off form and Rashford isn't a winger.
That said, he's clearly unable to raise his game to the point where he deserves to be a regular starter. Either Jose will act or I'm going to start believing he really has got a guaranteed start clause in his contract.
It actually leaves out one of the worst bits, in the second half the ball was played across the ground to Rooney in the centre circle from the right, he tried to let it run past him and turned straight into a Watford player who promptly made off with the ball.That's the best thing I've seen today. That volley is ridiculous. I never thought I'd laugh at such a pathetic display but i did.