Wasn't Trump outspent by most other republicans and Hillary though? In some ways this election did show that the money spent on a campaign isn't as important as everyone thought...
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Yeah, you are right. I kind of used my french vision here, I remember some pretty interesting people say that they weren't interested in politics because it was more about self interest than a public function and that even if they wanted to change that, they would be forced to fight in the mud with the professional politicians.
even so, basing your campaign on trying to smear the opposition and their supporters instead of focusing on your strengths was a bad move on hillary's part, especially when you're unpopular and generally untrusted yourself. I even said this (or something similar I believe) back in september when the "basket of deplorable" comment came out from hillary, and now that kind of hubris is shown to be their undoing.
however racist/sexist he might be, and however shallow his policies might be, you have to admit trump at least tried to focus on what he will try to do for the country and respected hillary supporters.
the portion of leftists who were in their own bubble naively beliving the polls are of course shocked, but this really isn't as surprising as they make it out to be when you start to consider that populism is on the rise elsewhere in the world (e.g. brexit, AfD)
I am saying that was wrong too.
But this isnt right either. It shouldnt be something we just accept.
Yes but Trump offered the anti establishment vote for the republicans.
I wasn't saying that money won the election, I was simply pointing out how money obstructs other better/intelligent politicians running effective campaigns.
I agree. At best he would win the states she won, minus Virginia. Nothing more.
Could be, the idea is backed up in some papers I've read I think. At least regarding durable consumption goods. Will be very interesting to see how expectations form this quarter for sure.
But its not right.
that is my main point.
Especially if the left leaning Democrats were to resort to such far right tactics.
Maybe he may have lost, but I think Bernie would have got more DNC voters out than Hilary did.
It's the same in Sweden and Denmark as well and they don't have a big petroleum industry, so it's not like it's impossible. The very fact that so many basically universal human needs has been monetized in the US is the root of so many of their problems
If you don't have resources then the glass ceiling is very much real and it both hinders social mobility and it reinforces already unhealthy demographic tendencies. No one knows what kind of president he is going to be yet (because his campaign was all rhetoric and no substance) but if the campaign is anything to go by it's only going to get worse for the "have nots"
I'm in Sweden so let's use us and the Danish as an example instead then.
I agree that it isn't morally right. I do feel the Democrats have to smarten up their game though... and being the boy your mother in law would love just doesn't cut it anymore.
The are those who think that (depending on your party affiliation relative to the party affiliation of the President) the first year or two the President has inherited the economy from his predecessor. Especially at least the first year of his presidency.
This time it will be interesting to see what the markets and people do. Not just the immediate market reaction in the next few days, but over the next month and more. For people, I am really going to look at how the Holiday shopping season plays out. If people cut back, it will be a huge indicator that they are uncertain about the economy.
This time it will be interesting to see what the markets and people do. Not just the immediate market reaction in the next few days, but over the next month and more. For people, I am really going to look at how the Holiday shopping season plays out. If people cut back, it will be a huge indicator that they are uncertain about the economy.
I bet the media enjoyed the extra clicks and viewer-numbers everytime they spent attention on Trump.
Bernie would have gotten more votes in the rust belt - those ppl simply didn't identify with Hillary.
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Bernie would have won this election...I was in his corner. Donald Trump would have the nuclear codes. Let that sink in for a bit.
And it's the same in France but we made concessions that the Americans don't want to make like iirc not representing half of the global military budget and in our countries socialism isn't an insult. Swansonstache asked for something that isn't american.
And like I said earlier education is a business in the US.
She didn't even campaign in Wisconsin and Michigan. WTF!
Ok, and we also have absurd taxes? The U.S. don't want those tax levels (as this vote clearly showed) so I don't understand the issue here. Also, Swedish education has gone down the drain lately.
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It's just that Americans need to somehow focus on the positives.
There's no hiding from the fact here that they've just gone ahead and elected a vile pieces of shit who stands for all the wrong values, as the leader of their nation.
I'm interested in understanding how women can vote for this moron?
We, in Belgium, also have absurd taxes. About 50% of our salary in fact. Few people complain about this. Education, healthcare ... are all practically free. Wouldn't want it any other way.
Fair point.
Thats politics for you nowadays. But they would just come off as hypocritical especially when their main strategy against Trump was that he was a sexist.
That's great for you. Americans don't want it that way, and I do not understand why people on here are telling them how to live their lives.
It was just a joke either way...
It's as simple as that, that's why I said that Norway wasn't a good example because in theory their population combined to their resources allow them to not make concessions while americans will have to make concessions and they didn't build their society around them unlike most european countries.
Ironic for a country that has spent much of the last century trying to tell other countries how to do exactly that.
Maybe America is a mess because they don't have a damn clue what is best for them?
Spot on. Bernie could have changed their culture, but not even his own party believed in his ability to do so.
Spot on. Bernie could have changed their culture, but not even his own party believed in his ability to do so.
I don't disagree. Just pointing out that quality state funded education IS possible for anyone willing to put money into it. To bad for the US they aren't
I live in Norway, and while the tax rate indeed is high, it's not absurd when you consider what you get in return. It's this pathological fear of taxes that is the root of their misfortunes in the first place. They are trillions of dollars in debt, their trade deficit continues to increase, pretty much any public good is shit and still they don't want any taxes
Now the obvious solution would be to finally tax the very richest (who pay virtually nothing) but seeing how rotten the system is and i highly doubt Mr Donald would impose any tax increase on his pals at Wall Street
I'm not telling them how to live their lives. Millions of Americans don't have access to healthcare. It should be a basic right, not something someone else can decide for you.
I'm curious to see how he handles foreign policy. He comes across as quite isolationist and even appears to admire Putin, which I'll take as a diplomatic positive (beats Hillary's feckin awful idea of the no fly zone in Syria).
But on the other hand, Newt Gingrich as secretary of state
But on the other hand, Newt Gingrich as secretary of state
Nicely done. I put a bet on 5 days ago so my odds weren't that great. With Brexit and now this I'm 2 for 2 on bets for the year (don't bet much and when I do I tend to lose so this is... different for me). Now to bet on Liverpool for the title and hope my streak ends.
Let’s look at the bright side of life: Krugmann is fuming. Negatives: Trump might push for policies that Krugmann loves. Positives: Krugmann will continue to sulk, because of partisanship.
Yeah, the people running her campaign should take a break from politics, and in most cases, never show up again. The attack on Trump should have been that he's the establishment, and it should have been a mute point behind the things she actually rallied for (College cost, path to legalisation, criminal justice reform etc.). She also should have developed some sort of topic that the midwestern middle/lower class could identify with and vote her for, instead she brought along John Bon Jovi and Lebron. I was talking to a friend last night who's from Akron (LeBrons birthplace just outside of Cleveland), he said people absolutely love LeBron... but they're voting Trump...
Ah well, hindsight is a beautiful thing and all, yet she and her team ought to hang their heads in shame. (I'll be the first to admit that I wasn't outside the "Hillary bubble" either... so I can understand how they failed to see this to a certain point)
Lessons:
Clintons can no longer consider that they have a divine right to be in office.
Money literally is power.
Americans have done something very very stupid.
Clintons can no longer consider that they have a divine right to be in office.
Money literally is power.
Americans have done something very very stupid.
A mess? Us Swedes are way over our heads in how we observe the outside world. What isn't like us = bad.
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