He isn't. Not because he plays in the french league but because he's been bang average since last season.
World XI in 5 years from now?
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
Messi will still be in the world xi in five years time.
De Gea
Carvajal Bailly Varane Shaw
Pogba Messi
Dembele Odegaard Neymar
Gabriel Jesus
Carvajal Bailly Varane Shaw
Pogba Messi
Dembele Odegaard Neymar
Gabriel Jesus
Messi will still be in there.
Think Rugani will prove to be better than Varane/Gimenez. Learning from the best too...
World XI is normally based on the success of teams. I.e CL success, league success. If United don't do any of these in the next five years, then players like Pogba, Shaw, Martial, Rashford, etc, probably won't be in it. Hopefully we will be back at that level in 5 years.
A wild guess would be:
A wild guess would be:
De Gea (31)
Aurier (28) Varane (28) Umtiti (28) Alaba (30)
Verratti (29) Kroos (31) Pogba (28)
Griezmann (30) Dybala (28) Neymar (29)
Aurier (28) Varane (28) Umtiti (28) Alaba (30)
Verratti (29) Kroos (31) Pogba (28)
Griezmann (30) Dybala (28) Neymar (29)
DG
Bailly - Varane - Stones
Kimmich - Kroos - Verratti - Pogba
Gabriel Jesus - Rashford - Martial
Though i would better go with Bendtner and 10 pieces of wood
Bailly - Varane - Stones
Kimmich - Kroos - Verratti - Pogba
Gabriel Jesus - Rashford - Martial
Though i would better go with Bendtner and 10 pieces of wood
Donnarumma
Bellerin - Bailly - Rugani - Alaba
Verratti - Weigl
Dembele - Maier - Neymar
Dybala
The only one i should have to talk about is Arne Maier. He is arguably the most talented U19 midfielder in Germany right now. He is a playmaker, runs alot, but he needs to work on his defensive contribution. I believe, that in 5 years from now he won't play for Hertha anymore but for one of the top clubs (Bayern...,Leipzig...)
And yes...it is less certainty and more hope, that made me put him in my "World XI".
But him being one of the best players in the world in 5 years from now is not more or less likely than Ødegaard being the same.
Bellerin - Bailly - Rugani - Alaba
Verratti - Weigl
Dembele - Maier - Neymar
Dybala
The only one i should have to talk about is Arne Maier. He is arguably the most talented U19 midfielder in Germany right now. He is a playmaker, runs alot, but he needs to work on his defensive contribution. I believe, that in 5 years from now he won't play for Hertha anymore but for one of the top clubs (Bayern...,Leipzig...)
And yes...it is less certainty and more hope, that made me put him in my "World XI".
But him being one of the best players in the world in 5 years from now is not more or less likely than Ødegaard being the same.
About 5 players we haven't heard of or even considered for the future right now - as always.
we have almost the same defence
5 years is a long time, I bet there would be a few players we haven't even heard of.
I only saw him last week against Real, for only half an hour, but I was very impressed. Don't know about his ceiling yet, but he has a nice swift no nonsense way of getting past his man to make space for the cross.
GK: De Gea
RB: Carvajal
CB: Varane
CB: Gimenez/Ricardo Carvalho
LB: Raphael Guerreiro
DM: Verratti
CM: André Gomes
CM: Pogba
RW: Gelson Martins
LW: Neymar
Striker: Iheanacho
RB: Carvajal
CB: Varane
CB: Gimenez/Ricardo Carvalho
LB: Raphael Guerreiro
DM: Verratti
CM: André Gomes
CM: Pogba
RW: Gelson Martins
LW: Neymar
Striker: Iheanacho
Yep tbh Bellerin Carvajal and Aurier are quality players but too soon for me to be definitely sure they will be the creme de le creme and no one better will come through.we have almost the same defence
No Chance to make a serious prediction. However, we have some Players at Hand who have the potential to make it (Pogba, Martial, Rashford, Shaw, de Gea, Bailly).
I would be very surprised if it was him. I just watched Torino vs Juventus. When Dybala got subbed on (he was unfit to play the whole game), he literally transformed the entire Juventus attack. He's already the best player for one of the best teams in Europe. He also seems to have a good head on his shoulders.
----------------Martial------Icardi----------------
----------------------Neymar---------------------
-------------kovacic---------Pogba---------------
----------------------Verratti----------------------
Sandro-----Marquinhos--Verane--Bellerin
------------------------DDG-----------------------
----------------------Neymar---------------------
-------------kovacic---------Pogba---------------
----------------------Verratti----------------------
Sandro-----Marquinhos--Verane--Bellerin
------------------------DDG-----------------------
De Gea
Bellerin - Smalling - Varane - Alaba
Pogba - Verratti
Karamoko Dembele - Ødegaard - Neymar
Jorginho
Bellerin - Smalling - Varane - Alaba
Pogba - Verratti
Karamoko Dembele - Ødegaard - Neymar
Jorginho
Thought he was a midfielder?
He has 20 games at club level. That's nothing to go by at this point. Remember Bojan after 20 games? Quaresma? Walcott? All players with good careers but not world class level but they were all immensely talented.
I'm surprised by the lack of Bale. He'll be 32 in 5 years time which isn't much whilst Dembele will be 24. I'm sure a 34 year old Messi will also still be excellent.
Bale is an injury prone player that relies on his incredible pace.
He reminds me a lot of Kaka; and we all know what happened to Kaka once injuries eradicated his speed.
Very unbalanced, but oh well 
Honorable mention for Rugani, Raphael Guerreiro, Renato Sanchez, Saul, Koke, Varane and Bellerin
EDIT: Wanted to include Bailly too... tough call
Honorable mention for Rugani, Raphael Guerreiro, Renato Sanchez, Saul, Koke, Varane and Bellerin
EDIT: Wanted to include Bailly too... tough call
De Gea
Joma Gimenez Umtiti Alaba
Verratti Pogba
Martial Dybala Neymar
Rashford Icardi
Joma Gimenez Umtiti Alaba
Verratti Pogba
Martial Dybala Neymar
Rashford Icardi
De Gea
Bellerin Varane Bailly Alaba
Weigl
Pogba Veratti
Dembele Martial Neymar
Bellerin Varane Bailly Alaba
Weigl
Pogba Veratti
Dembele Martial Neymar
Something like that. Though messi ar 34 could easily still be in here if he stays at Barca. Will most definitely change but I would put it like that currently in terms of most promising per position at a decent age. Definitely biased with Bailly but he looks brilliant. If Mourinho can get us challenging for the CL again, then it'll probably be built off a great defence so it would make sense to have de gea and Bailly in there.
Pogba has already been in the world 11 and will only get better. Veratti is class but if he stays at PSG then itll be tough for him. Also with weigl. It needs a holding mid. He is by far the standout holding mid in the world that isnt in his peak ages. Kimmich the only other one that came to mind but I have no idea what he even plays for bayern these days with his versatility. Plus im not sure if hes as good as weigl anyway.
It's just a made up name. There will probably be a new young brazilian superstar with a similar name in five years time
I am very surprised at the amount of times Messi has been omitted from these line-ups. Barring injury or disinterest, how will he not be the best AM in the world at 34?
His level is so much higher than everyone else that even with a loss of some pace and acceleration, he'll have a lowered bar that still puts him above everyone else active, so unless some as-yet-unheard-of wunderkind appears, how will he be usurped from a World XI?
He's the most nailed on of all (barring the aforementioned conditions) from the players listed thus far, imo.
His level is so much higher than everyone else that even with a loss of some pace and acceleration, he'll have a lowered bar that still puts him above everyone else active, so unless some as-yet-unheard-of wunderkind appears, how will he be usurped from a World XI?
He's the most nailed on of all (barring the aforementioned conditions) from the players listed thus far, imo.
De Gea
Bellerin - Varane - Bailly - Alaba
Sanches - Pogba - Verratti
Hazard - Dybala - Neymar
I chose mostly young players but theres every chance the likes of Messi, Boateng, Neuer, etc could still be in there.
Bellerin - Varane - Bailly - Alaba
Sanches - Pogba - Verratti
Hazard - Dybala - Neymar
I chose mostly young players but theres every chance the likes of Messi, Boateng, Neuer, etc could still be in there.
Wow it really does illustrate just how potential in youth is no guarantee of a top level career.
Kaka was also more talented, more skilled and with a much greater football IQ. Bale is all athleticism
Also, somebody said dybala would not turn into a WC player? News flash, he already is
There is a possibility of him retiring at this point, or, at least, moving from Europe - not because he can't still play on the highest level, but because he already achieved everything and doesn't have the same motivation anymore. It's the impression that I've got from his interviews and career path so far - and it's nothing rather than a pure speculation at this point, but he never was as motivated as Ronaldo, for example, nor did he have a selfless approach to his career like Zanetti/Giggs.
You can see how he already declined in his workrate, although still providing mindblowing performances, he already retired from the national team once and he frequently told us that he wants to end his career in Argentina, playing for his boyhood club for fun.
If he wants to - he'll be in the World XI 5 years from now without a shadow of doubt. But that's not a given
That's not just unbalanced..Very unbalanced, but oh well
Honorable mention for Rugani, Raphael Guerreiro, Renato Sanchez, Saul, Koke, Varane and Bellerin
EDIT: Wanted to include Bailly too... tough call
De Gea
Joma Gimenez Umtiti Alaba
Verratti Pogba
Martial Dybala Neymar
Rashford Icardi
You can easily include Bailly to make it the World XIII, why stop?Very unbalanced, but oh well
Honorable mention for Rugani, Raphael Guerreiro, Renato Sanchez, Saul, Koke, Varane and Bellerin
EDIT: Wanted to include Bailly too... tough call
De Gea
Joma Gimenez Umtiti Alaba
Verratti Pogba
Martial Dybala Neymar
Rashford Icardi
There's only 11 people in my lineup
Oh, Joma is Jose Maria? That's, well, unorthodox thinking.
From where I'm from, Jose Maria is often abbreviated to Joma, I'm not surprised some are confused about it
No bias at all
Yes, there's a possibility he may be done with the game by then, but if he isn't and no bad injury befalls him, or just complete mental fatigue or disinterest, it'll take a player we've yet to see light up a stage to usurp him from being the best AM in the world.
A lot of the other players mentioned in here it wouldn't surprise me one way or another if they're not at the top of the tree five years from now.
Not a given unlike Dembele? Messi's work rate has always been very poor compared to other players. For years he's been clocking under 10km per game which is on average about 2km less than other players.
Even though he declines he'll still be a better player than probably every other player mentioned in this thread.