No doubt. goes without saying. Just someone else said we are favourites. This thing is hard to win. Better teams than us have faltered before.
There was someone on the radio the other day from one of the big betting companies and we were the favourites, not sure if we were clear or with Spurs, but they said we were the favourites.
Correct. It's still another 7 games until the final. It's going to be hard to win.
We're comfortably better than those teams. Short of a dreadful performance we should be making at least the final.
We're not comfortably better than the two Italian clubs. People forget that our away form in Europe is poor.
It's a Cup competition, can't say we should be making the final this far out, one bit of bad luck and you're out. We need a kind draw. Roma are very good also, they won their first leg 4-0 away from home and they're 2nd in Serie A.
Course you can, I qualified my answer by saying avoiding a dreadful performance anyway. Along with Spurs we are the best side in the competition. Regardless of the draw we should be beating every side we come up against, simple really.
But we are though. How many roma players would you swap in for ours?
Lots. I'd swap most of our centre backs for theirs. I'd swap Herrera for Nainggolan. I'd swap Carrick for Paredes. Salah is better inside forward than anyone in our squad. Džeko is as good as, if not better than the current version of Ibrahimović.
So no Rooney again then? Why has this thread all of a sudden become a EL thread and the merits of Roma?
Carrick can't get in our starting XI, we have 5 clean sheets on the bounce in a tougher league and Bailly is the best centreback of the bunch. Herrera is a better player than Naingogolan and Dzeko is a failed reject from a city side who can boast no player who has scored more goals than Zlatan this season. You are seriously reaching here mate.
Ajax, Spurs, Shakter, Fenerbachce.
We are comfortably better than everyone, everywhere according to the caf, yet we haven't been a force in Europe for god knows how long. The last champions league campaign should've humbled you. We are also 6th. People are making too much of our current form as if we are world beaters all of a sudden. The only team of note we have beaten is Spurs during this unbeaten run. We have also struggled on multiple occasions vs Hull City under a european manager. We will face similar tactical tests with the variation that exists in the tournament. To expect us to reach the final is arrogance which we don't warrant. Someone like Schalke will probably knock us out on their day.
Nainggolan is good but good enough to displace Herrera in the form he's in? No way. Their centre backs are pretty good and I'd agree that we'd look better with one of them alongside Bailly. Paredes is good but who would he displace? Herrera or Pogba? Again, not for me.
You definitely wouldn't want Dzeko on penalty duty rather than Zlatan.
on second thoughts, he'd fit right in with all the chances we miss.There again how often do we get a bloody penalty?
I'd take Naingogolan. hes a beast. I reckon he would dominate Ander. He even has his own "heel" tackle. The way he hunts after the ball. we need an animal like that
Carrick has been a regular for most of the season. I don't think Herrera is better than Nainngolan who is not far off Vidal. He's been excellent for around 4 years now. Herrera is good, but let's not pretend that he's Modrić.
What are you on about? No one had any illusions of grandeur under Moyes and LVG. To compare our current side and manager to those of the past 3 seasons is ridiculous.
If Džeko is one of the best strikers of the past 10 years then Zlatan really must be God. Incredible then that despite his brilliance he failed at city and wasn't picked up by anyone better than Roma.
He didn't fail at City. That's like saying Berbatov failed at United. Your sentence reeks of snobbery. As if Roma were Hull. With guys like Morata, Llorente and Mandžukić having played for Juventus in recent years, he could easily have played for them too. He's probably on a decent salary.
I hear you and I know exactly who we have added. We still finished 2nd in our group and have recorded few impressive wins thus far. We have been beating the likes of West Ham, Reading, Middlesbrough, Watford, swansea, Palace, Sunderland, Leicester. this doesn't make me dare to dream. We have one win over teams in the top 7 which is the quality of opposition we would need to get pass, the deeper we go. We won't be facing the quality of teams I have listed above, in the europa.
5 goals and 4 assists?
I think you'll find your general view of all things football in the minority my friend.
So you give up. Fair enough.
You either so want to count stats or you don't. It wasnt 5 minutes ago you were condemning Zlatan despite his goal scoring and assist record this season.
Yeah I do. You're trying to tell us Salah is better than Mhkitaryan and Dzeko is better than Ibra. How to do argue with such ridiculousness.
Salty because you couldn't change my opinion. I'm not a sheep like most.
Dzeko has been just as good for roma as Zlatan has been for us. Similar kind of game they play. Wouldnt say hes better but could be argued they are equal. Salah has contributed well but mhki is much better. Both opinions arent based on stats btw
Zlatan Ibrahimovic
Ashley Young
Paul Pogba
Marcus Rashford
Ander Herrera
Michael Carrick
Sergio Romero
Anthony Martial
Martin Atkinson
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